Thank it not correct, there is a large number of new construction happening in the "Gloucester" portion of Orleans - eg. Trailsedge, Eastboro etc...
You are right that the Gloucester portion does reach up. There is some of that Gloucester starts attributed to the gloucester portion of Orleans but I think subtracting that, the totals will still yield the same overall result I believe-or very close.
I was talking mostly about intra-regional traffic. People going from Orleans to Barrhaven and such.
If what is needed is a road for connecting Southern Ottawa to Gloster and Eastern Ottawa (more encompassing than Barrhaven and Orleans), one good option would be to extend/widen Earl Armstrong Drive and have it curve north to intersect with Hunt Club either at a new location or merging with an existing north/south corridor (that would be widened to accept the higher volume of traffic). Options for existing corridors to merge with from west to east are:
Albion Rd. While this is the closest and easiest street to connect to, it becomes a 2 lane residential street through Blossom Park and is blocked by the Walkley Yards. A Poor Option.
Bank St. One way or another you will have to go through the middle of Finley Creek, creating congestion. It is also already very busy once it enters Blossom Park. Also a poor option.
Conroy Rd. (via Bank?), also requires travel through Finley Creek, but north of that it provides good access to both Hunt Club and Walkley. Could potentially be extended to Smyth. A Good Option.
Hawthorne Rd. Avoids all developments and connects well to both Hunt Club and Walkley (and even on to Smythe and St. Lauraunt). Is also very close to the 417 exchange for continuing on to Orleans. Great option.
Ramsayville Rd. Provides excellent option for a connection to the 417, but forces everyone to connect onto the 417, which may be too far east. A good option.
The Gov't thinks Ontario ends et Kingston. South Ottawa traffic is horrendous, and Ottawa gov't thinks that is a 2030 priority. The roads of Ottawa are jammed up and the roads capacity are fixed and roads are getting worse. Think there was plan for Hunt Club highway 10 years ago. Should have gone through!! Renfrew extension of 417 also needed.
The Gov't thinks Ontario ends et Kingston. South Ottawa traffic is horrendous, and Ottawa gov't thinks that is a 2030 priority. The roads of Ottawa are jammed up and the roads capacity are fixed and roads are getting worse. Think there was plan for Hunt Club highway 10 years ago. Should have gone through!!
Historically most of the traffic on the 417 is travelling to Ottawa, not through Ottawa, so a bypass would do little to reduce congestion. There may have recently been an upturn in through traffic with both DND and the RCMP movement to the west end, though it may be a short term problem as new (and relocated) employees will tend to live closer to work.
Foundation Engineering services are required to support the detailed design of the twinning of Highway 17 for 22.5 km along the existing Highway 17 corridor, from Scheel Drive westerly to 3.0 km west of Bruce Street near the Town of Renfrew. The highway will be expanded from a two-lane controlled access highway to a full freeway configuration by converting the existing two lane highway into either the new eastbound or westbound lanes, and constructing the corresponding new lanes next to the existing highway. This foundation scope forms part of the “Part 1” of this RFP assignment.
The Ministry completed a Preliminary Design/Environmental Assessment study for Highway 17 twinning from the Town of Arnprior to the Town of Renfrew. The results are contained in the Preliminary Design Report (WP 647-92-00 Preliminary Design Report) referenced in other sections of this RFP. The PDR addressed two phases of the Highway 17 twinning assignment, Phase 1 (from County Road 29 to 3 km west of Bruce Street) and Phase 2 (from 3 km West of Bruce Street to Scheel Drive). This project scope is for detail design of Phase 2.
In addition, the Ministry also advanced/completed individual operations at few sites within the project limits and their reports are referenced in the RFP Reference Sections. All the existing reports/drawings shall be reviewed and utilized, as applicable, for this assignment. Phase 2 scope of the Highway 17 twinning requires foundation engineering services for the following foundation elements within the Township of McNab-Braeside and Horton:
a) Full Interchanges Construction/Reconstruction (including structures, ramps and associated service roads).
b) Grade Separated Crossings.
c) Waterway Crossings.
d) Culverts.
e) High Fills and Deep Cuts.
f) New Service Roads.
g) Stormwater Management Facilities.
h) Other Services.
The purpose of this assignment is to obtain sufficient foundation subsurface information and provide a detail design level foundation investigation and design recommendation to support the project requirements. Foundations Engineering Consultant Services required shall include the following tasks:
• compile and review existing subsurface information and site reconnaissance;
• conduct additional foundation field investigations and laboratory testing as specified;
• prepare Foundation Investigation and Design Reports and/or Technical Memoranda as specified;
• attend project meetings as specified;
• design support liaison; and
• develop and review contract package.
The minimum requirements for Foundation Engineering are outlined in Section 7.7.1.2 Technical Services Required (Terms of Reference ‘General’). Project-specific requirements are detailed in Section 7.7.1.3 Deliverables (Terms of Reference ‘Project Specific’) and shall govern where any conflict exists with Section 7.7.1.2 Technical Services Required. Further details pertaining to structure and roadway design as related to Foundations Engineering are found elsewhere in this Request for Proposal.
In order to ensure consistency and accountability, the MTO Designated Contact from the Foundations Engineering Geotechnical (Structures and Embankments) specialty must be identified as the lead person and the liaison for the Foundations Engineering services. The WO/WP/GWP number shall be included on the subject line of all correspondence with MTO
This pavement design project is supposed to be commenced in March of 2019.
I think that the govt is building a bypass of Renfrew and has plans for building to Petawawa but they are not building it! Except the bypass of Renfrew. Also, right now the LRT will reach a farmers field. I live near the Transitway in Nepean and right now I know that the govt does not plan rationally. They build LRT to Moodie and not Kanata! What great planning is this? Also during rushhour Leitrim Limebank Woodroffe Greenbank out of Barrhaven and Riverside South is a mess. All but Woodroffe is 2 lane rural roads!
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I think that the govt is building a bypass of Renfrew and has plans for building to Petawawa but they are not building it! Except the bypass of Renfrew. Also, right now the LRT will reach a farmers field. I live near the Transitway in Nepean and right now I know that the govt does not plan rationally. They build LRT to Moodie and not Kanata! What great planning is this? Also during rushhour Leitrim Limebank Woodroffe Greenbank out of Barrhaven and Riverside South is a mess. All but Woodroffe is 2 lane rural roads!
Why do they need a Renfrew bypass? Highway 17 bypassed Renfrew decades ago.
Why do they need a Renfrew bypass? Highway 17 bypassed Renfrew decades ago.
Ottawaresident probably meant twinning it.
As for an Ottawa Bypass, it seems that there’s still space south of the airport to rough in a 4-lane divided freeway. It’ll be a great connector to Airport Parkway.
Isn't it Cobden that needs a bypass on Highway 17?
Yep. Renfrew, Pembroke and Petawawa have all already been bypassed, although the area surrounding TCH’s ROW has been built up enough to have warranted numerous lights.
Ps: I’m actually surprised that this thread’s got revived.
They build LRT to Moodie and not Kanata! What great planning is this?
They are building LRT to Kanata.
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Also during rushhour Leitrim Limebank Woodroffe Greenbank out of Barrhaven and Riverside South is a mess. All but Woodroffe is 2 lane rural roads!
Traffic downtown (where most of the people are going) is already a mess. Why would we want to widen all those roads to move more cars downtown to make it even more of a mess? What great planning is this?
No, the 17 did bypass Petawawa Pembroke and Renfrew, but the section to Cobden is overcapacity, and the section to Renfrew is double capacity.
The Cobden bypass was supposed to run on the other side of Muskrat Lake towards Beachburg. I believe this plan is still on the books and will be built when Highway 417 construction reaches that far west.
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It’ll be a great connector to Airport Parkway.
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