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Old Posted Jul 6, 2019, 9:11 PM
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Building LeBreton Flats Master Plan RFP deadline is now July 11. High level concepts expected Sept 3, 2019 draft master plan for consultation in November :o

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Old Posted Aug 2, 2019, 11:40 AM
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Master plan contract awarded to O2 Planning + Design with CIMA+, Paterson and L’Atelier Urbain

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Looks like they have done some nice work. That Eau Claire Park in Calgary is an awesome outdoor design; spent some time there last year. Looks like 02 has the parks covered, Paterson and L'Atelier more the urban form, and CIMA some of the streetscaping etc. I look forward to the preliminary designs.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
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'Make it happen': public impatient with LeBreton redevelopment

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 17, 2019


Public frustration with the implosion of Rendezvous LeBreton Group’s redevelopment plan is evident in the results of a public forum on the future of the still-undeveloped, nearly 60-acre tract at the western edge of downtown Ottawa.

The results from the June forum that drew nearly 400 people can be summed up as “Get it right” and “Make it happen.”

The latter, in fact, has been added as one of the National Capital Commission’s seven guiding principles for the LeBreton master concept plan, which were presented Tuesday at the commission’s September board meeting.

Though long on ideas but short on public details, the NCC’s new direction for LeBreton is the right one, said board member Michael Foderick, a lawyer with the firm McCarthy Tetrault in Toronto.

“Your presentation may not have some of the flash and pizazz of RLG, but that’s a good thing,” Foderick said. “A lot of that was smoke and mirrors. What we’re talking about here is real and that’s how planning is properly done here in Ontario. This process is clearly going to lead to a faster build out of LeBreton Flats than the RLG proposal would have.”

The NCC pulled the plug on the Rendezvous LeBreton plan nearly a year ago after its partnership of Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk and his company and Trinity Development chair John Ruddy and his company dissolved into a nasty legal squabble. A downtown arena was to have been the centrepiece of the RLG plan.

“Looking at the big picture, after the stadium, it wasn’t really very inspiring at all for anyone outside Ottawa,” Foderick said.

But seeing the big picture of what the NCC now has in mind isn’t easy. An informal survey of participants in the June open house showed green space was the No. 1 priority, followed by residential space, commercial space, public space and “major attraction or destination”, with some contributors specifically mentioning a new hockey arena.

NCC CEO Tobi Nussbaum said he’s not spoken directly to the Senators about a downtown arena, but it remains on the table for LeBreton.

“We’re very much open to the idea of a major events centre should there be interest in the future,” Nussbaum said. “But it’s not a decision that needs to be made in the short term. Fifty-five acres can’t be developed overnight and that allows us to have some flexibility.”

Having two new LRT stops at Bayview and Pimisi at either edge of LeBreton has the NCC even more anxious to get shovels in the ground, Seaman said.

The NCC has hired the Calgary firm O2 Planning and Design to develop its master plan.

“I think we’re on track and to be honest this is the first time I’ve felt that way since I joined the board,” Foderick said, adding that many of the details are still known only by board members. “Knowing that detail it creates an even better picture than the tip of the iceberg that we’re talking about here.”

The public will see more of that iceberg at the commission’s November board meeting, which will then be followed with another chance for public feedback, NCC chairman Marc Seaman told reporters.

The completed LeBreton Master Concept Plan is to be sent to the NCC board for approval in January, he said.

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NCC CEO Tobi Nussbaum said he’s not spoken directly to the Senators about a downtown arena, but it remains on the table for LeBreton.
You'd think he might get on that.
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You'd think he might get on that.
I think they'll now also be watching to see about LRT funding to Kanata and a possible station near the arena in the future.
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I think they'll now also be watching to see about LRT funding to Kanata and a possible station near the arena in the future.
I somehow doubt that a 23 stop LRT ride to the edge of civilization is going to encourage attendance at games.
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You'd think he might get on that.
I don't think its worth the NCC's time to negotiate with the current owner. Set aside the land, leave a placeholder. I would suspect he is impossible to negotiate with.

I think the mistake the NCC has made here is dropping devcore. They should have worked with them to build a better plan but they had willing partners at the table who they walked away from.
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I don't think its worth the NCC's time to negotiate with the current owner. Set aside the land, leave a placeholder. I would suspect he is impossible to negotiate with.

I think the mistake the NCC has made here is dropping devcore. They should have worked with them to build a better plan but they had willing partners at the table who they walked away from.
I completely agree with you. I used to joke that he is the Trump of NHL owners but I really think they have a lot in common. I wonder if it's a specific type of billionaire (millionaire now?) that is super unreasonable like this? I much prefer the philanthropic ultra billionaires like Gates and Buffet
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2019, 1:24 AM
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LeBreton Flats - Actually the NCC is getting it right
We need to hit that sweet spot between some development that is smart, inclusive and environmentally sustainable on the one hand, and a big great natural park on the other. Despite criticism, the NCC's approach makes this possible.

Brigitte Pellerin

Updated: September 18, 2019

It didn’t take me long, when I moved to Ottawa 19 years ago, to realize that criticizing the National Capital Commission was sort of a thing around here. And no doubt it is often well-deserved. But on the latest plan to redevelop LeBreton Flats, I say hold your horses. The NCC appears to be headed in the right direction.

The Citizen recently ran an oped by former ministers John Baird and John Manley, urging the NCC to go big, bold, public and green. Don’t build condos (or, worse, an arena), build a park, they wrote.

I agree. But so does the NCC. When I chatted earlier this year with Katie Paris, director of Major Real Estate Development and lucky woman in charge of this particular potato, she talked of five guiding criteria for the site, which I’m paraphrasing slightly:

• Create a vibrant, inclusive community with lively public spaces. This means a mix of housing, very much including the affordable kind, senior housing and rental, along with services such as day cares, grocery stores, etc. The idea is that people could live and work right there on the site.

• Honour the past, both industrial/working class and Indigenous.

• Nature and environmental responsibility. The emphasis is to protect our natural heritage, promote climate resilience and aim for carbon neutrality.

• Ensure connections, both in the physical sense of transportation (access to LRT and transit) but also in the sense of having public spaces where people naturally interact with others in a relaxing, car-free zone.

• And that large public natural space everyone wants.

You’ll notice there are no arenas on that particular list. Yes, there will be housing. But not just condos. It’s not going to be an enclave for the rich which, incidentally, the area around Central Park in New York City kind of is.

And speaking of that park. Almost everyone you ask will say yes, of course we should have our own version of Central Park or Chicago’s Millennium Park in our nation’s capital. Katie Paris wants it too. But also the other stuff. “We don’t have to choose, we can have it all,” she said. A great natural park, a destination, something we’ll cherish for generations, but also a place for people from all walks of life to live, play, learn, work and hang out. Cafés, museums, cultural establishments, skateparks and benches to sit on in the sun and eat your lunch.

I’ve been to Central Park, to Hyde Park, the Washington Mall, and the Champs-Élysées. Love ’em all. However I do take Katie Paris’s point that one issue with such a park is that we in Ottawa don’t have the population density of New York City or London, and that can be a problem. Without sufficient population density, you run the risk of having your lovely park sit empty much of the time. I mean, look at Sparks Street after 6 p.m. on a weekday. It’s a great place to go to play urban football. Or cause mischief.

Oh yes. That.

We need to hit that sweet spot between some development that is smart, inclusive and environmentally sustainable on the one hand and a big great natural park on the other. But how?

Katie Paris looks to the French capital for inspiration. Specifically, the Clichy-Batignolles “eco-district” in the 17th arrondissement, on the site of an old train yard. It’s roughly twice the size of LeBreton Flats and includes 10 hectares of park space, 38,000 square metres of public spaces, 3,400 housing units, office spaces, a court house, as well as establishments such as cafés, cultural attractions and recreational facilities.

We can do something like this in Ottawa. A place with open and inclusive space, lots of nature and public art, somewhere we can breathe deeply, relax, and bask in the natural glory of the Ottawa River.

The public has and is being consulted on LeBreton Flats. I urge anyone with an opinion to participate. By all means let’s keep the NCC’s feet to the fire on this, and hold it to that healthy, public and green vision. But let’s also acknowledge that on the whole, this time, they’ve got the big vision right.

Brigitte Pellerin is an Ottawa writer.

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Wow... what a fantastic vision

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• Create a vibrant, inclusive community with lively public spaces. This means a mix of housing, very much including the affordable kind, senior housing and rental, along with services such as day cares, grocery stores, etc. The idea is that people could live and work right there on the site.
Kinda, sorta like the way Ottawa is developing organically. Self inclusive neighbourhoods like the Glebe, Westboro, West Wellington, Little Italy, Orleans, Kanata, etc.

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• Honour the past, both industrial/working class and Indigenous.
??? ok.. lovely sentiment.. but what does that really mean?

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• Nature and environmental responsibility. The emphasis is to protect our natural heritage, promote climate resilience and aim for carbon neutrality.
Cool. Isn't that what all new developments should strive for?

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• Ensure connections, both in the physical sense of transportation (access to LRT and transit) but also in the sense of having public spaces where people naturally interact with others in a relaxing, car-free zone.
Kinda, sorta like the way Ottawa is developing organically. Self inclusive neighbourhoods like the Glebe, Westboro, West Wellington, Little Italy, Orleans (except for the car free thing), Kanata (except for the car free thing), etc.

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• And that large public natural space everyone wants.
Ottawa is full of "large public natural spaces". Kudos to Brigitte for calling that one out.

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You’ll notice there are no arenas on that particular list. Yes, there will be housing. But not just condos. It’s not going to be an enclave for the rich which, incidentally, the area around Central Park in New York City kind of is.
This goes totally against my anti-public spending mentality, but I honestly think an arena would be the BEST thing for this particular site. To me, it creates a "large, public, natural space" that people in this city seem to crave. It doesn't have to be about hockey... an arena is a natural gathering place for concerts, events, conventions, etc. Properly managed, it could be in use 100+ nights per year. Especially given our climate, an arena makes a whole lot more sense than a giant field with benches and a pond.

So, to get this straight... the NCC's "vision" is for condos with apartments, grocery stores, offices, art, and lots of pieces of grass by the river.

Why am I so underwhelmed ??
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Seems very long on buzzwords very light on feasible, concrete ideas that could actually be implemented.
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• And that large public natural space everyone wants.https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/co...tting-it-right

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In case anyone missed it, the Consultation Report from the Public Consultation was posted this week:

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Coalition wants people-centric LeBreton Flats deal
New group wants promises of community space, housing in writing

Ryan Tumilty · CBC News
Posted: Sep 24, 2019 7:05 AM ET | Last Updated: September 24


A new coalition wants to make the next plan for LeBreton Flats come with real benefits to the community.

The LeBreton Flats Community Benefits Coalition is pushing for a binding community benefits agreement with the National Capital Commission that would force whoever develops the land on the western edge of downtown Ottawa to include things such as social housing, park space, childcare spaces and labour commitments.

The NCC's board is set to vote on a concept plan for the area early in 2020.

George Brown, a lawyer and member of the coalition, said it's about ensuring the land is developed responsibly.

"When we design communities we tend to look just at the buildings," he said at a Monday afternoon meeting.

"No one talks about what the makeup of the community is going to be, what sort of social infrastructure is in that community."

Brown said he believes there are developers willing to take the extra step and sign onto an agreement like this.

He said in early talks they have had with the NCC, it seems interested in the idea.

"We are urging the NCC board of directors to recognize that [this agreement] is an important part of whatever gets approved at LeBreton Flats," he said.

Céline Carrière, co-chair of the Ottawa Social Housing Network, said they believe this will actually give the NCC ammunition when it is negotiating in the future.

"When they go out to have conversations with developers it will, in fact, empower the NCC and give them the tools to say, 'We have to have an element of community art space or we must have a certain amount of affordable child care.'"

In a statement, Katie Paris, the NCC's director of major real estate development, said they see a common approach with what the NCC wants from the development and what the coalition wants.

She said they hope to continue talking with the coalition as the project moves forward.

The NCC reset the development of LeBreton Flats after the previous development with RendezVous LeBreton Group became embroiled in a legal dispute between Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk and developer John Ruddy.

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The NCC will be presenting the draft overall vision for the master concept plan this Thursday at the Bayview Yards. Would love if we could get some photos of the presentation boards on the forum for those of us in other cities!

Public consultation: Give your feedback on the draft Master Concept Plan for LeBreton Flats

http://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/events/public-c...lebreton-flats
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The NCC will be presenting the draft overall vision for the master concept plan this Thursday at the Bayview Yards. Would love if we could get some photos of the presentation boards on the forum for those of us in other cities!

Public consultation: Give your feedback on the draft Master Concept Plan for LeBreton Flats

http://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/events/public-c...lebreton-flats
Oh don't worry, I am sure someone is on it! Looking forward to it.
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dammit, i'm flying out thursday night for the weekend. Will have to rely on someone else, and comment digitally.
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