The Great and Less Than Great Canadian Logo Thread - Page 11

davidivivid · #**201** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 2:08 AM**

Great kickstarter project about Canadian designs:

Acajack · #**202** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 3:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

You mean within post #194? That's perfectly normal; the example is good translation vs translation that leaves to be desired (of the same original).

If the question is more like "how come it's 'bienvenue à' when it's a city name, and 'bienvenue dans' when it's a different concept?", well, that's mostly how it is.

Would most Anglos be readily able to explain the difference between "I'm in Toronto" versus "I'm at Toronto" versus "I'm to Toronto" (and "I go in Toronto" vs "I go at Toronto" vs "I go to Toronto") beyond just saying "incorrect preposition" (which IMO sums it up) ...?

Most anglos might not be able to explain the grammar problem with Welcome at Montréal but they'd know it sounds off.

Elmira Guy · #**203** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

Are you asking what the difference is between "Welcome at Montreal" and "Welcome to Montreal" ?

I was asking what I intended to be a sincere question in that you wrote this "Bienvenue à Montréal" for both Welcome to, and welcome at. There is no difference in the French sentence you applied to two different English sentences.

I'll willingly accept that it is I who is missing something here in so far as my recollection of French is concerned. Also true with regards to the Pennsylvania Dutch I learned as a kid.

Again, I'm asking sincerely, not to be a dick or anything.

Acajack · #**204** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Elmira Guy

I was asking what I intended to be a sincere question in that you wrote this "Bienvenue à Montréal" for both Welcome to, and welcome at. There is no difference in the French sentence you applied to two different English sentences.

I'll willingly accept that it is I who is missing something here in so far as my recollection of French is concerned. Also true with regards to the Pennsylvania Dutch I learned as a kid.

Again, I'm asking sincerely, not to be a dick or anything.

It wasn't about the French, it was about the English.

vid · #**205** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 4:10 AM**

These were installed a few years ago. The city limits extend quite a ways from the built up city itself (like Ottawa does), so you'll see the sign that says "welcome to Thunder Bay" and by the time you actually get to Thunder Bay you'll probably have forgotten that you saw a sign welcoming you here.

They're actually one of the better things the city has designed, since the logo is pretty crappy.

The northern lights one is pretty cool at night.

These were installed at three of the five major entrances to the city (Highway 61, Highway 11/17 eastbound, and Highway 11/17 westbound), the other two (Highway 102 and Oliver Road) were supposed to be installed a couple years ago but I think they forgot?

vid · #**206** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 4:17 AM**

A couple local logos:

The library:

The airport, ~1994 to ~2014:

~2014 to 2016:

2016 to present:

I find the new one looks very British.

esquire · #**207** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 3:25 PM**

Thunder Bay did a great job on those entrance signs.

speedog · #**208** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

It wasn't about the French, it was about the English.

Cool, I as as about confused as Elmora Guy but I am from Calgary, drive a rusty 4x4 truck and have been known to barbeque a piece of beef once in a while.

J.OT13 · #**209** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 4:20 PM**

Ottawa's signs have displayed 900,000 for 10 years.

Big cities need to add digital counters to their "Welcome" signs.

Rico Rommheim · #**210** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 4:46 PM**

Bah nobody cares anyway. My girlfriend spent most of her life living and working in Ottawa and was convinced the population was "like 50,000". When I laughed in her face she said "ok, maybe 30,000, sorry!"

Her Ott friends give an estimate of anywhere 100,000 to 3 million.

So add a digital counter all you want, people will still be looking down at the tablets as their car zooms past the sign.

Last summer a friend of mine from Vancouver said she enjoyed coming to Montreal because "it's not a big city like Vancouver". When I laughed in her face she looked at me like I just landed from Andromeda.

Nobody. Cares.

SignalHillHiker · #**211** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 5:08 PM**

The local radio station HITS FM has, by far, our most internationally famous logo.

SignalHillHiker · #**212** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 5:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by vid

A couple local logos:

2016 to present:

I find the new one looks very British.

It's better than ours.

Praise da lawd!

lio45 · #**213** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 7:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by speedog

Cool, I as as about confused as Elmora Guy but I am from Calgary, drive a rusty 4x4 truck and have been known to barbeque a piece of beef once in a while.

Same here, except I'm not from Calgary, that my fullsize 4x4 GM pickup isn't rusty, and that my mastery of French is perfect.

TownGuy · #**214** Posted **Jul 1, 2017, 7:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

The local radio station HITS FM has, by far, our most internationally famous logo.

Nice!

Within this realm I always get a chuckle out of local carpet cleaning company, "Ball Deep" Steam Extraction.

I wonder if they know? I mean Ball Deep really does convey the right message.

holhm22 · #**215** Posted **Jul 2, 2017, 8:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Bah nobody cares anyway. My girlfriend spent most of her life living and working in Ottawa and was convinced the population was "like 50,000". When I laughed in her face she said "ok, maybe 30,000, sorry!"

Her Ott friends give an estimate of anywhere 100,000 to 3 million.

So add a digital counter all you want, people will still be looking down at the tablets as their car zooms past the sign.

Last summer a friend of mine from Vancouver said she enjoyed coming to Montreal because "it's not a big city like Vancouver". When I laughed in her face she looked at me like I just landed from Andromeda.

Nobody. Cares.

Speaking of people getting populations incorrect, many people I know here in Calgary keep believing that (Metro) Vancouver is more populated than the Montreal area. Maybe too attached to Western superiority??

SkahHigh · #**216** Posted **Jul 2, 2017, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by holhm22

Speaking of people getting populations incorrect, many people I know here in Calgary keep believing that (Metro) Vancouver is more populated than the Montreal area. Maybe too attached to Western superiority??

Or just ignorance of Canada's demographic situation lol

Rico Rommheim · #**217** Posted **Jul 2, 2017, 8:56 PM**

Anybody reading / consuming ROC media could be excused for believing that Montreal is Canada's 4th biggest / important city. Certainly, when I was living in BC and Alberta (2003-2012), many people thought I came from the backcountry or something. Not all of course.

In general, I find Canadians to be very aloof concerning details about Canadian facts. I don't particularly care, but it has put me in a couple awkward situations with a couple ROC people. Like, nothing bores me more than having to defend the claim that Montreal is the second most-populated city of the country with someone from Kamloops whilst trying to enjoy myself in a hostel in Colombia.

It's not limited to idiots either, I was put into the embarrassing position of having to convince a PhD student from Toronto in urban planning last year that Montreal was a city of 4 million. She didn't believe me until she looked it up herself on the internet after a surprisingly acrimonious debate that would make the most hard-core SSP troll raise an eyebrow. Its like I said: people don't know, and people don't care. And people don't care that they don't know. All those in the world that do care, are reading this thread right now.

Of course, the reverse is true for many Quebecers (especially those who live in small towns), many of who have silly and antiquated notions about the ROC.

kwoldtimer · #**218** Posted **Jul 2, 2017, 11:35 PM**

"Anglo Montreal" (if that's still allowed to be a thing) would still be one of MOC's ten largest cities, if only just, no?

Rico Rommheim · #**219** Posted **Jul 2, 2017, 11:40 PM**

At approx 700,000 it would probably toss Hamilton out of 9th spot.

Poor Hamilton, just can't catch a break.

vid · #**220** Posted **Jul 3, 2017, 2:36 AM**

I've had quite a few people ask me if Ottawa is bigger than Thunder Bay. I'm honestly surprised at how ignorant people are of the size of our capital city.

I also know people who think Thunder Bay is bigger than Winnipeg, or that Brandon and Thunder Bay are the same size, or that North Bay is bigger than us.