The most progressive southern state

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Which state below is more progressive?

ALABAMA

FLORIDA

GEORGIA

MISSISSIPPI

NORTH CAROLINA

SOUTH CAROLINA

TENNESSEE

TEXAS

[bigstick]

Currently it is Georgia, It voted Biden and flipped the senate with two Dems...Pretty amazing, IMO

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by bigstick

Currently it is Georgia, It voted Biden and flipped the senate with two Dems...Pretty amazing, IMO

I tend to agree. Though, if I hadn't seen this election cycle to believe, I probably would have said North Carolina a few months ago.

[Bamablazer]

I am going with Texas because Silicon Valley in California is starting to Break up and moving to Austin, Texas.

[atlanta68]

Originally Posted by bigstick

Currently it is Georgia, It voted Biden and flipped the senate with two Dems...Pretty amazing, IMO

Except Biden had to cheat to win in GA. Read the Navarro Reports and see for yourself. Read the many affidavits signed under penalty of perjury. Watch the Fulton County video and see them pull out ballot stuffed suitcases under a black curtained table, count those ballots, even after they sent observers home and said voting would stop till morning. The GA GOP let them steal it because they are incompetent, corrupt and did not want to take responsibility for letting the Democrats steal it. Oh and Dominion money and corporate threats also prevented every single major GA GOP leader from letting the legislature meet to decertify.

Boss Hogg House Speaker David Ralston and the LT Gov both threatened lawmakers who signed or considered signing a petition to hold a special session to hear the evidence and vote to decertify. The GA GOP establishment ultimately cared more about other priorities than they did about Trump winning. And I am not even a big Trump fan. And the two GA GOP Senate candidates lost the runoff because they literally waited till the last minute to endorse objecting to Biden electors. They ran on fighting "socialism," rather than America First. Too many potential voters chose to stay home rather than risk their vote being wasted via fraud or the GOP candidates not supporting the Trump agenda.

Oh and not one of the courts (save for Wisconsin Supreme Court, and even they agreed that there were thousands of illegal mail in ballots) allowed evidence to be presented. Almost all of the cases were denied hearing due to "standing," or "laches."

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by atlanta68

Except Biden had to cheat to win in GA. Read the Navarro Reports and see for yourself. Read the many affidavits signed under penalty of perjury. Watch the Fulton County video and see them pull out ballots stuffed suitcases under a black curtained table, count those ballots, even after they sent observers home and said voting would stop till morning. The GA GOP let them steal it because they are incompetent, corrupt and did not want to take responsibility for letting the Democrats steal it. Oh and Dominion money and corporate threats also prevented every single major GA GOP leader from letting the legislature meet to decertify.

Boss Hogg House Speaker David Ralston and the LT Gov both threatened lawmakers who signed or considered signing a petition to hold a special session to hear the evidence and vote to decertify. The GA GOP establishment ultimately cared more about other priorities than they did about Trump winning. And I am not even a big Trump fan. And the two GA GOP Senate candidates lost the runoff because they literally waited till the last minute to endorse objecting to Biden electors. They ran on fighting "socialism," rather than America First. Too many potential voters chose to stay home rather than risk their vote being wasted via fraud or the GOP candidates not supporting the Trump agenda.

The election was free and fair, it wasn't stolen, I'm going to ignore you now...

[atlanta68]

Originally Posted by SpawnOfVulcan

The election was free and fair, it wasn't stolen, I'm going to ignore you now...

Oh, I am so devastated! NOT! Spoken like a typical MSM watching, Russia Russia Russia, establishment suck up. Your corporate news also lied to you about the wars....Still lying....

See dementia addled Biden admit that he had the greatest vote fraud organization in history, prior to the election: https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24...rican-history/

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by atlanta68

Oh, I am so devastated! NOT! Spoken like a typical MSM watching, Russia Russia Russia, establishment suck up. Your corporate news also lied to you about the wars....Still lying....

See dementia addled Biden admit that he had the greatest vote fraud organization in history, prior to the election: https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24...rican-history/

What does methylsulfonylmethane have to do with any of this?

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by atlanta68

Except Biden had to cheat to win in GA. Read the Navarro Reports and see for yourself. Read the many affidavits signed under penalty of perjury. Watch the Fulton County video and see them pull out ballot stuffed suitcases under a black curtained table, count those ballots, even after they sent observers home and said voting would stop till morning. The GA GOP let them steal it because they are incompetent, corrupt and did not want to take responsibility for letting the Democrats steal it. Oh and Dominion money and corporate threats also prevented every single major GA GOP leader from letting the legislature meet to decertify.

Boss Hogg House Speaker David Ralston and the LT Gov both threatened lawmakers who signed or considered signing a petition to hold a special session to hear the evidence and vote to decertify. The GA GOP establishment ultimately cared more about other priorities than they did about Trump winning. And I am not even a big Trump fan. And the two GA GOP Senate candidates lost the runoff because they literally waited till the last minute to endorse objecting to Biden electors. They ran on fighting "socialism," rather than America First. Too many potential voters chose to stay home rather than risk their vote being wasted via fraud or the GOP candidates not supporting the Trump agenda.

Oh and not one of the courts (save for Wisconsin Supreme Court, and even they agreed that there were thousands of illegal mail in ballots) allowed evidence to be presented. Almost all of the cases were denied hearing due to "standing," or "laches."

Ooohhh you poor thing, watching FAUX News much, while wearing your MAGA hat, which everybody knows really means Make America WHITE again.
What's the problems? The BROWING of America getting under your pale skin?

Once GA goes blue, she'll always be blue due to the rapidly changing demographics in METRO ATL.

You're a dying breed and just too afraid to share power with your "colored" brethen. STFU, bro...

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by ATLMidcity

Ooohhh you poor thing, watching FAUX News much, while wearing your MAGA hat, which everybody knows really means Make America WHITE again.
What's the problems? The BROWING of America getting under your pale skin?

Once GA goes blue, she'll always be blue due to the rapidly changing demographics in METRO ATL.

You're a dying breed and just too afraid to share power with your "colored" brethen. STFU, bro...

I really think a majority of people don't understand how diverse, growing states like Georgia and North Carolina are. It's easy to live in your own little bubble, especially in Atlanta where you don't have to drive across town (leaving your bubble) just to do some clothes shopping. If you never step out of your own little world, it's easy to come to the false assumption that there aren't enough minority voters to challenge the status quo.

I am operating on the assumption that atlanta68 is white. I could just be pulling that assumption out of my a**. At any rate, I don't really think it matters as people of color can be conservative Trump voters, too. When I was a poll clerk here in Birmingham on Election Day, there were plenty of people of color sporting MAGA hats. Just goes to show that even people of color can isolate themselves in their own bubbles.

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by SpawnOfVulcan

I really think a majority of people don't understand how diverse, growing states like Georgia and North Carolina are. It's easy to live in your own little bubble, especially in Atlanta where you don't have to drive across town (leaving your bubble) just to do some clothes shopping. If you never step out of your own little world, it's easy to come to the false assumption that there are more than enough minority voters to challenge the status quo.

I am operating on the assumption that atlanta68 is white. I could just be pulling that assumption out of my a**. At any rate, I don't really think it matters as people of color can be conservative Trump voters, too. When I was a poll clerk here in Birmingham on Election Day, there were plenty of people of color sporting MAGA hats. Just goes to show that even people of color can isolate themselves in their own bubbles.

False Assumption - Have you checked the democratic votes emanating from the counties in metro Atlanta? The republicans didn't loose the runoff senate elections solely based on Trumpism and all the other false flags the media may have suggested. Every political pundit was espousing that democrats do not come out for runoff elections in Georgia.

So what changed: A BLACK MAN was at the top of the ticket, which energized the base to deny Moscow Mitch the majority. We got it done and falling just 500,000 votes less than the general election. Now that's a fact.
After Georgia went blue for the president and on January 6 Ossoff and Warnock were declared the winners, MAGA world stormed the capitol realizing that Trumpism losing streak was complete (the White House, the Senate, and the House). Go figure.

So, going forward you'd be wise to pay attention to what is actually happening in your rapidly changing state.
Word to the wise: the following counties are now majority-minority in metro Atlanta:
Fulton
DeKalb
Gwinnett
Cobb (yes, that Cobb)
Clayton
Rockdale
Henry
Douglas
and Fayette and Forsyth are about 65/35 repub/dem.


MAGA hats: I have yet to see anybody sporting a MAGA hat in the counties listed above, but I can understand how some disillusioned Blacks in assbackwards BAMA could be duped into believing Trump's strongmans' tactics are best for them. Hell, it's is Alabama after all where education attainment is just above Mississippi.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by ATLMidcity

False Assumption - Have you checked the democratic votes emanating from the counties in metro Atlanta? The republicans didn't loose the runoff senate elections solely based on Trumpism and all the other false flags the media may have suggested. Every political pundit was espousing that democrats do not come out for runoff elections in Georgia.

So what changed: A BLACK MAN was at the top of the ticket, which energized the base to deny Moscow Mitch the majority. We got it done and falling just 500,000 votes less than the general election. Now that's a fact.
After Georgia went blue for the president and on January 6 Ossoff and Warnock were declared the winners, MAGA world stormed the capitol realizing that Trumpism losing streak was complete (the White House, the Senate, and the House). Go figure.

So, going forward you'd be wise to pay attention to what is actually happening in your rapidly changing state.
Word to the wise: the following counties are now majority-minority in metro Atlanta:
Fulton
DeKalb
Gwinnett
Cobb (yes, that Cobb)
Clayton
Rockdale
Henry
Douglas
and Fayette and Forsyth are about 65/35 repub/dem.


MAGA hats: I have yet to see anybody sporting a MAGA hat in the counties listed above, but I can understand how some disillusioned Blacks in assbackwards BAMA could be duped into believing Trump's strongmans' tactics are best for them. Hell, it's is Alabama after all where education attainment is just above Mississippi.

OK, I genuinely agree with everything you said, but I don't think you got what I was trying to say. That's my fault, though, my reply was poorly worded. When I said "...come to the false assumption that there are more than enough minority voters to challenge..." I meant to type "...that there aren't enough...". I hope you if reread my post with that sentence now in proper context you'll understand that I don't disagree with you.

As for Alabama being assbackwards... you're from freaking Georgia, it's hardly a bastion of progressivism. Yes, we have Roy Moore still stalking the few malls that he's still aloud to visit, and I apologize on behalf of all Alabamians for that fact. But, GA ain't perfect either (Marjorie Taylor Greene?).

As for Alabama's educational attainment, obviously we have lot of room to improve, but there are at least 6 states between AL and dead last when looking at bachelor degree percentage, and 10 if you're looking at advanced degrees.

I know I certainly try to throw facts at the wall to see what sticks when I'm trying to make a point, so I'm not going to take what you said seriously (especially when the post you replied to was so poorly written).

[SlidellWx]

Not sure where Louisiana is on this list since it's also a southern state. It's the only state in the South with a Democrat governor, and it has adopted full Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act. That's pretty progressive for the Deep South.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by SlidellWx

Not sure where Louisiana is on this list since it's also a southern state. It's the only state in the South with a Democrat governor, and it has adopted full Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act. That's pretty progressive for the Deep South.

I'm sorry I did leave LA out...I love NO to visit pre covid, but LA is a pretty depressed state that is losing population...

[SlidellWx]

No doubt we're poor as fuck here in Louisiana, and this pandemic has made it worse. Thankfully, the Medicaid expansion has allowed those who lost jobs to maintain health coverage. The article below indicates that 39% of the state population was now on Medicaid due to the pandemic. It was around 29% of the population in 2019 before COVID wrecked the economy.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...ea34243b4.html

[VAHash]

No Old Virginny?? why is Virginia not in this??

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by VAHash

No Old Virginny?? why is Virginia not in this??

Virginia doesn't really fit nicely into any of the sub-forums on this website. I wouldn't say it belongs in the Northeast section, but I don't think it really counts as Southeastern either.

[ATLMidcity]

Because Virginia would have easily beat out Georgia as the most progressive southern state due to DC's outsized influence on the political makeup of the old confederate.

Virginia is reliably blue at this point. But being blue doesn't make Virginia in less southern than the rest of the South.

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by atlanta68

Except Biden had to cheat to win in GA. Read the Navarro Reports and see for yourself. Read the many affidavits signed under penalty of perjury. Watch the Fulton County video and see them pull out ballot stuffed suitcases under a black curtained table, count those ballots, even after they sent observers home and said voting would stop till morning. The GA GOP let them steal it because they are incompetent, corrupt and did not want to take responsibility for letting the Democrats steal it. Oh and Dominion money and corporate threats also prevented every single major GA GOP leader from letting the legislature meet to decertify.

Boss Hogg House Speaker David Ralston and the LT Gov both threatened lawmakers who signed or considered signing a petition to hold a special session to hear the evidence and vote to decertify. The GA GOP establishment ultimately cared more about other priorities than they did about Trump winning. And I am not even a big Trump fan. And the two GA GOP Senate candidates lost the runoff because they literally waited till the last minute to endorse objecting to Biden electors. They ran on fighting "socialism," rather than America First. Too many potential voters chose to stay home rather than risk their vote being wasted via fraud or the GOP candidates not supporting the Trump agenda.

Oh and not one of the courts (save for Wisconsin Supreme Court, and even they agreed that there were thousands of illegal mail in ballots) allowed evidence to be presented. Almost all of the cases were denied hearing due to "standing," or "laches."

You need to take this comedy show on the road.

[shekelcounter]

It always amazes me to read that non-whites did not, have not, should not, will not support and agree with Republicans and even Mr. Trump.

Some non-whites think other non-whites think alike and all vote the same. That's insanely wrong.

Some non-whites are smart enough to get off the Plantation of the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is doing no great favors for non-whites and blacks, but they are getting used and taken for granted but not awake enough to examine salient issues with clear eyes.

Clearly Mr. Trump got screwed, with the all out help of the legacy Media at every turn. They hated the man...but his policies nationally and internationally were clearly successful - that is obvious seeing what's going on Now in the summer of 2021.

Open Borders, out of control immigration
Awful Middle East Policy viz Iran et al
Inflation is out of control since Jan 2021
Deficit spending is out of control in the TRILLIONS
Poor handling/truth telling in re Covid19
Runaway domestic CRIME - all over
Bad Trade Deals
Bad international policies in re China
Awful race relations
Stupid Vice Pres choice
President Biden is demented and everyone knows it, he's not all there