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Originally Posted by caligrad
This is why city comparisons are so frustrating because they never make any sense. You cant compare cities that boomed during different times and with totally different ideologies with cities that were designed to be a different way decades later. It seems the LA pages get plagued with this topic every blue moon and it still baffles my mind that with the conclusion being the same each and every time, that it still turns up as a topic.
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at this late date, it is what it is.....or what's that phrase? crying over spilled milk. Or how about, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
would've, could've arguments about LA are exercises in futility....they're like debates that never go past square one....at least since improvements have occurred or are occurring.
LA is its own animal....yrs ago, when the city....esp dtla....was in fairly bad shape, I saw that as a big problem. But I would have felt the same way even if LA had the history and pattern of devlpt of cities like NYC, Chicago, boston, san francisco or in europe. major economic & cultural recessions are never pretty, anywhere, LA or elsewhere.
today, a lack of new devlpt has switched to too much homelessness & dirty sidewalks & streets. Those are problems hurting dtla, just as they're doing to certain other major cities in the US & world.
in the meantime, I would have never predicted this even a few yrs ago....if it does succeed, it will show nothing should be discounted, at least until the last minute. still, win some, lose some......
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Beloved San Francisco bakery Tartine expanded into Los Angeles in January with a sprawling, 40,000-square-foot Manufactory outfitted with two restaurants, a cafe, a bakery and a marketplace. On Monday, all of the retail components open to the public closed.
The key issue with the Manufactory project, Robertson said, was the downtown location, an area full of manufacturing but not many residents. In a city where everyone drives, there wasn’t foot traffic on weekdays, and destination visits on the weekend couldn’t sustain the operation.
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By Caitlin White / January 14, 2020 8:26 am
In the decade since Soho House came to California, the elite members-only club has practically become a Hollywood institution. The initial, flagship location in West Hollywood is one of the U.K.-based hospitality company’s most prestigious outposts, and a second more remote Malibu site has rounded out the club’s presence on L.A.’s more remote west side. In September of this year, a third, vast space, Soho Warehouse, opened in the quickly-emerging downtown Arts District, officially staking claim on the east side of the city as well. The company’s presence downtown joins other creative giants like Spotify and Warner Music Group, who have both recently relocated their headquarters to the area, contributing to what some are calling a renaissance of the once influential neighborhood.
At seven stories, Soho Warehouse is the largest Soho House in North America, and the first location on the west coast to offer bedrooms — aka a hotel component — open to members, but also to their guests, conferring temporary membership into the house on visitors while they’re staying at the hotel. So while there is plenty of competition when it comes to lodging downtown — including early adopters like the Ace Hotel, a relatively new addition in The Freehand, and revamped, historical institutions like Hotel Figueroa — none of them boast the cache of hanging out at Soho House itself.
With a rooftop pool and jaw-dropping views of L.A.’s hazy downtown skyline, as well as a split-level gym complete with sauna and steam rooms, three restaurants, and the club space itself, Soho Warehouse is either the ultimate staycation, or the ideal home base for visitors to indulge in the best of the city.
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These should be turning on soon 
soooooo.....
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