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Originally Posted by biggus diggus
More name calling! Excellent. and "I worded this to draw you out" means what, exactly? That you're stirring it up purposefully to create conflict?
It's unbelievable to me how many members of this chat site are threatened by someone who thinks a little differently and resort to little defensive outbursts and name-calling. I guess the only thing more puzzling is why I keep engaging you all.
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Biggus, you are a self described old timer and somebody involved in downtown real estate for many many years.
IF there are issues with the patronage of downtown Phoenix, or you think the culture of this city or development of this city is sub par its a reflection of YOU and people LIKE YOU and your SOCIAL CIRCLE and BUSINESS ASSOCIATES.
Most of us are relatively young and not in the industry but people that have either grown up in the Phoenix metro or have moved here. Most of the older folks, as we all know, came here from other places and had no interest in the downtown, there is a reason why its going through its biggest building boom ever right now.
My point of jabbing you is to point out that if you are unhappy with the culture and civic pride in this city it isn't because of most of us on this forum, and its not because of you specifically but because of people like you and people you know.
Basically... you are preaching to the choir. If anything you should reach out to those contacts you know that are movers and shakers (allegedly) around town and be a booster for downtown. God knows we need it.