CHICAGO | 400 N Lake Shore Drive | 851 FT & 765 FT | 73 & ? FLOORS - Page 74

Kumdogmillionaire · #**1461** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 2:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by emathias

Whatever gets built there requires that Dusable Park be built out by the developer. That's made up of that 3-acre plot of land across LSD to the east from the 400 N LSD site. Given that, it wouldn't make any sense to turn the main site, one of the most valuable plots of undeveloped land between New York and San Francisco, land that already has a mostly-completed foundation suitable for up to a 2,000-foot tower, into a park, too.

Right... developers aren't spending tens of millions of dollars on properties and designs to give up and put a non-revenue producing park... I'm not sure what that dude is smoking

Fvn · #**1462** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire

Right... developers aren't spending tens of millions of dollars on properties and designs to give up and put a non-revenue producing park... I'm not sure what that dude is smoking

Especially NOT Related

harryc · #**1463** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 2:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire

Right... developers aren't spending tens of millions of dollars on properties and designs to give up and put a non-revenue producing park... I'm not sure what that dude is smoking

The agreement for the Spire was that the developer would re-hab/create DuSable park in exchange for the ramps. At the presentation last year the park was a prominent piece of the deal.

400 N Lake Shore Drive by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr

rgarri4 · #**1464** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 2:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Now more than ever would I love to see LSD tunneled from Ohio St to the Grant Park curve.

Hell no! You'd be missing out on some of the most amazing vantage points of the skyline if LSD was in a tunnel during that stretch. That includes views of this very project, and how it meets the lake and Chicago river. The experience along this stretch is part of why LSD is my favorite road to drive on. Way better than experiencing a dam tunnel.

Busy Bee · #**1465** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 3:12 AM**

^Bad for people in cars. Good for people out of cars. For me that's an easy decision every time.

UPChicago · #**1466** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by MorganChi

Not to bring any negativity to this chat though but I’m afraid the old spire site will be nothing more than a park . We waited for this land to be develop within that last 11 years and nothing more than that has happened. It would of been nice to see the developer combined the two towers to make one whole tower ( 1,900ft ) but anything can happen within the next coming months.

Development takes time, see Wolf Point

harryc · #**1467** Posted **Nov 27, 2019, 9:52 PM**

Nov 27

The hole abides

Chicago | 400 N LSD by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr
activity is for the LSD work

Hudson11 · #**1468** Posted **Dec 11, 2019, 11:41 PM**

the CTBUH seems to be under the impression that SOM towers aren't happening. More evidence of a major revision, or just the CTBUH being silly?

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...th-tower/33109

Hourstrooper · #**1469** Posted **Dec 11, 2019, 11:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hudson11

the CTBUH seems to be under the impression that SOM towers aren't happening. More evidence of a major revision, or just the CTBUH being silly?

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...th-tower/33109

Supposedly going to be an all new design and start from scratch so we shall see.

MorganChi · #**1470** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 2:17 AM**

Yea this project not happening I could of sworn I read somewhere that they have until May 2020 to build something on that Land. I said last month that this will end up being a park and nothing more. If something gets build get ready for another 500ft-600ft building

Hourstrooper · #**1471** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

If that's true they better seize the opportunity this time and not waste it.

they will, with all the lots filing in nearby and with other large proposals and towers that didn't exist when this was proposed, in the area I think you could expect something better than what was before this. We shall see in a few months what turns up....

KWillChicago · #**1472** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 2:31 AM**

Just saw this picture of the old render top floors. So skinny. The top penthouse has to be the top four floors.
https://www.google.com/search?q=400+...cyZag_g1eguqmM

The Pimp · #**1473** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 12:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by MorganChi

Yea this project not happening I could of sworn I read somewhere that they have until May 2020 to build something on that Land. I said last month that this will end up being a park and nothing more. If something gets build get ready for another 500ft-600ft building

Wrong!

MorganChi · #**1474** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 1:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Pimp

Wrong!

It’s ok to be in doubt , who wants to make bet on it ? Dinner where ever you want.

The Pimp · #**1475** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by MorganChi

It’s ok to be in doubt , who wants to make bet on it ? Dinner where ever you want.

I will take that bet. Dinner where ever you want.

gebs · #**1476** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 2:56 PM**

Let's take a moment to remember some suggested designs:

A conceptual idea

Gensler's Gateway tower

Palma's low-carbon tower

TRA / Thomas Roszak

SOM / David Childs [current design]

STL

ZHA (right?)

MorganChi · #**1477** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 3:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by the pimp

i will take that bet. Dinner where ever you want.

deal

Zerton · #**1478** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 3:55 PM**

I really love SOM's design. It's both really contemporary and classic. Plus all those setbacks will make for awesome terraces. It's a really creative way to do balconies without them looking like crap.

ZHA's design looks great too but it looks less fully thought out.

OrdoSeclorum · #**1479** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 5:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by MorganChi

Yea this project not happening I could of sworn I read somewhere that they have until May 2020 to build something on that Land. I said last month that this will end up being a park and nothing more. If something gets build get ready for another 500ft-600ft building

Well, the naked site is worth $50,000,000. We don't need to guess how many units the market expects to be built there, based on that sale price. It's simple algebra. And it's more than would fit in a short tower. If you see the the land change hands and the price drops significantly, then maybe your idea is a little more plausible. But I'd wait to make any dinner bets until that happens.

rgarri4 · #**1480** Posted **Dec 12, 2019, 10:52 PM**

This was an interesting proposal

https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life...e-Competition/