PHILADELPHIA | The Arthaus @ 311 S. Broad | 542 FT | 47 FLOORS - Page 52

iheartphilly · #**1021** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 2:49 AM**

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We need a standout building on this side of Broad St. and this is it. I hope it is not a tease. Build it!

jsbrook · #**1022** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Some renderings without the SLS badging has been posted on Dranoff's website:

Good. It basically looks the same. I don't observe many differences in the base or overall design. The "Moving Forward" section of his website also says this:
"Next up are two signature properties planned across from the Kimmel Center which will further cement this neighborhood as the premier live, work, and play destination in Center City."

jsbrook · #**1023** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 1:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

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We need a standout building on this side of Broad St. and this is it. I hope it is not a tease. Build it!

Not sure about "standout", but it looks smarter than your average bear/better than your average glass box. I like the base pretty well. The views should be amazing for people who buy here.

City Wide · #**1024** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 3:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

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We need a standout building on this side of Broad St. and this is it. I hope it is not a tease. Build it!

Go back to page 1 on this thread, Dec. 2013. Not much has changed. I think theres little doubt that Carl wants to build this, the question is can he. The last 5 years have been a period of low interest rates and high demand for both hotel rooms and living units. To an outsider all the pieces seem in place except Carl's unreasonable request for $10M in State money. Who knows if and when this will become something other then a hole in the ground. "Built it!", sure, but that's what we said in '13. Don't hold your breath.

iheartphilly · #**1025** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsbrook

Not sure about "standout", but it looks smarter than your average bear/better than your average glass box. I like the base pretty well. The views should be amazing for people who buy here.

From Summer's post of renders on Dranoff's website, two things standout according to those renders:

1) Height-wise, it stands out relative to the surrounding buildings, even with the height reduction. None of the buildings are taller on broad within a few blocks up/down Broad St.

2) Design and what appears to be high(er) quality material stands out. This appears to be a modern design and the base looks above average and the glass tower that sits above the base. Don't see any other glass towers around this project.

iheartphilly · #**1026** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by City Wide

Go back to page 1 on this thread, Dec. 2013. Not much has changed. I think theres little doubt that Carl wants to build this, the question is can he. The last 5 years have been a period of low interest rates and high demand for both hotel rooms and living units. To an outsider all the pieces seem in place except Carl's unreasonable request for $10M in State money. Who knows if and when this will become something other then a hole in the ground. "Built it!", sure, but that's what we said in '13. Don't hold your breath.

Well, I think the State's money was for the hotel portion and now that the hotel is no longer part of the project, and now strictly a condo building, financing and ROI might be a little better, so I'm hopeful something will be announced sometime this year. This project is still active in his portfolio.

mcgrath618 · #**1027** Posted **Mar 23, 2019, 5:27 PM**

Did this thing ever go through CDR?

cardeza · #**1028** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 1:21 AM**

It looks substantially different now

https://dranoffproperties.com/moving...e-of-the-arts/

mcgrath618 · #**1029** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 2:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by cardeza

It looks substantially different now

https://dranoffproperties.com/moving...e-of-the-arts/

? Not really. Looks exactly like it used to just sans an SLS logo.

jsbrook · #**1030** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by cardeza

It looks substantially different now

https://dranoffproperties.com/moving...e-of-the-arts/

People posted the website renders the other week. Also, you spelled "almost exactly the same" wrong... Or are you saying you've seen the current plan and it is not what you posted and we're in for a surprise in the future?

boxbot · #**1031** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 3:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by cardeza

It looks substantially different now

https://dranoffproperties.com/moving...e-of-the-arts/

Well that's a neat trick since it looks like the exact same render from 2013.

cardeza · #**1032** Posted **Apr 4, 2019, 4:18 PM**

was there a different design originally? Maybe that's what I was thinking about- this has been in the works for a long time. By bad- this version is the same one they have been showing. I guess the new shorter version hasn't been shown yet. Whatever, hopefully the new permits mean something is happening

SouthBroadWatcher · #**1033** Posted **May 14, 2019, 10:13 PM**

Newbie bumping this thread with my first post. Definitely activity on the site today. Concrete barriers are installed on Broad Street and the right lane is now blocked. Two pieces of heavy equipment delivered.

Urbanthusiat · #**1034** Posted **May 14, 2019, 10:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by SouthBroadWatcher

Newbie bumping this thread with my first post. Definitely activity on the site today. Concrete barriers are installed on Broad Street and the right lane is now blocked. Two pieces of heavy equipment delivered.

Lines up with what I’ve heard, which is that this might actually start soon.

mcgrath618 · #**1035** Posted **May 14, 2019, 11:46 PM**

Don't want to say I called it would start this year, but...

cardeza · #**1036** Posted **May 14, 2019, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Don't want to say I called it would start this year, but...

Did anyone note the building permit was issued last month? It doesnt seem like it.

summersm343 · #**1037** Posted **May 15, 2019, 12:43 PM**

I’ll be shocked if this starts. Was a building permit actually issued?

cardeza · #**1038** Posted **May 15, 2019, 1:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

I’ll be shocked if this starts. Was a building permit actually issued?

Address
311-19 S BROAD ST

Organization
none

Permit Number
861999

Permit Type
BP_NEWCNST

Description
NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT

Detailed Description
***SEE LOG NOTE*** NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE FORTY-FOUR STORY HIGH-RISE BUILDING (>420 FEET) AS PER APPROVED PLANS. BUILDING TO BE FULLY SPRINKLERED PER NFPA 13 WITH STANDPIPES PER NFPA 14. BUILDING TO INCLUDE 107 DWELLING UNITS WITH ACCESSORY PARKING AND AMENITIES SPACES. SEPARATE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR FIT OUT FOR ALL GROUND FLOOR SHELL COMMERCIAL SPACES. *WORK TO INCLUDE UNDERPINNING TO BE MONITORED BY PA LICENSED PE AT ALL TIMES* **SEPARATE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR MEP & FIRE SUPPRESSION**

Permit Issue Date
02/13/2019

Status
ACTIVE

Redddog · #**1039** Posted **May 15, 2019, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by cardeza

Address
311-19 S BROAD ST

Organization
none

Permit Number
861999

Permit Type
BP_NEWCNST

Description
NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT

Detailed Description
***SEE LOG NOTE*** NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE FORTY-FOUR STORY HIGH-RISE BUILDING (>420 FEET) AS PER APPROVED PLANS. BUILDING TO BE FULLY SPRINKLERED PER NFPA 13 WITH STANDPIPES PER NFPA 14. BUILDING TO INCLUDE 107 DWELLING UNITS WITH ACCESSORY PARKING AND AMENITIES SPACES. SEPARATE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR FIT OUT FOR ALL GROUND FLOOR SHELL COMMERCIAL SPACES. *WORK TO INCLUDE UNDERPINNING TO BE MONITORED BY PA LICENSED PE AT ALL TIMES* **SEPARATE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR MEP & FIRE SUPPRESSION**

Permit Issue Date
02/13/2019

Status
ACTIVE

That looks like a permit.

summersm343 · #**1040** Posted **May 15, 2019, 2:11 PM**