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Nouvellecosse · #**4141** Posted **Jan 28, 2024, 9:10 PM**

And unless there's also a ridership projection for say, a high frequency light metro, the projections don't say much about whether other options would be worth the investment or not.

mrnyc · #**4142** Posted **Jan 29, 2024, 5:56 PM**

^ ridership projections across various modes were a factor in the one chosen.

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Count me as skeptical that when everything is measured the cost difference would be radically different, especially considering a light rail mode would require it's own standalone department, maintenance facility(s) and bespoke everything that is outside of NYCT operations know-how. Hell, if subway heavy rail was chosen the IBX trains could just take a ride down the Sea Beach Line to the Coney Is Shops, they wouldn't even need their own maintenance shop. Storage could possibly be done an expanded pre-existing Linden Shops yard, Fresh Pond or even Canarsie.

and so dooming the outer boros to never have rail service, because as i noted above that aside from ibx there are many other places where light rail or trams or trolleys or whatever you want to call them would be appropriate. gawking enviously at hudson-bergen only gets you so far, they have to start somewhere with experience with this mode.

its time to bring back some old school brooklyn dodgering.

mrnyc · #**4143** Posted **Jan 29, 2024, 6:01 PM**

gearing up for the four new bx mnrr stations with tod plans for 7500 apts at the parkchester and morris pk stations:

City Planning Commission Certifies, Starts Public Review Process for Bronx Metro-North Station Area

January 26, 2024

On January 22, 2024, the City Planning Commission launched the public review of the Bronx Metro-North Station Area Plan. The plan compliments the development of four new Metro-North stations along the East Bronx in Parkchester/Van Nest, Morris Park, Hunts Point, and Co-Op City. The stations will be added to the New Haven line and are expected to open in 2027.

Hunts Point and Co-Op City will receive investments but no zoning changes under the plan. In Morris Park and Parkchester/Van Nest, the plan would create nearly 7,500 new homes, including 1,900 permanently affordable units through Mandatory Inclusionary Housing. Most would be in Parkchester/Van Nest, along currently existing commercial corridors to add residential uses to those areas.

more:
https://www.citylandnyc.org/city-pla...ion-area-plan/

A sketch of the redesign of the intersection of Morris Park Avenue and Eastchester Road following a future redevelopment of the area adjacent to the upcoming Morris Park Metro-North Station. Image Credit: NYC DCP.

Nouvellecosse · #**4144** Posted **Jan 29, 2024, 7:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

^ ridership projections across various modes were a factor in the one chosen.

Can you post a link to the various projections? I seems to be having trouble finding it.

jmecklenborg · #**4145** Posted **Jan 29, 2024, 10:56 PM**

^Aside from the maintenance issue, using a separate mode prevents existing services from interlining onto the IBX, which would increase its networking effect and reduce 3-seat rides. For example, there is opportunity for the M train to operate as a full loop if it were interlined with the IBX. I think that the current M spur in Brooklyn has no late night or maybe even Sunday service, so its integration into the IBX would motivate 24/7 service.

Also, there is a problem with the #7 serving as a 1-stop shuttle between the LIRR Woodside station and the IBX/7/EFRM station. Now the dreaded 3-seat rides would become...4 seat rides absent some sort of very expensive deflection of the IBX from its existing ROW and construction of a super-expensive subway station beneath the existing massive interchange complex.

Qubert · #**4146** Posted **Jan 30, 2024, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by jmecklenborg

^Aside from the maintenance issue, using a separate mode prevents existing services from interlining onto the IBX, which would increase its networking effect and reduce 3-seat rides. For example, there is opportunity for the M train to operate as a full loop if it were interlined with the IBX. I think that the current M spur in Brooklyn has no late night or maybe even Sunday service, so its integration into the IBX would motivate 24/7 service.

Also, there is a problem with the #7 serving as a 1-stop shuttle between the LIRR Woodside station and the IBX/7/EFRM station. Now the dreaded 3-seat rides would become...4 seat rides absent some sort of very expensive deflection of the IBX from its existing ROW and construction of a super-expensive subway station beneath the existing massive interchange complex.

I wouldn't worry to much about the Woodside connection. If someone wants to take the LIRR to the IBX they most likely will either decamp for the (E) at Jamaica or grab a Brooklyn train to East NY and catch it there.

mrnyc · #**4147** Posted **Jan 30, 2024, 7:54 PM**

finally !!!

Staten Island Ferry bringing back on-board food and drink concessions

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on January 30, 2024

https://www.amny.com/transit/staten-...k-concessions/

mrnyc · #**4148** Posted **Jan 31, 2024, 2:01 PM**

the greater ne corridor hsr dream plan that is making the rounds —

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0F4T...Q2Y2tranVqZGUz

mrnyc · #**4149** Posted **Jan 31, 2024, 5:38 PM**

work for the mta —

UrbanImpact · #**4150** Posted **Jan 31, 2024, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

work for the mta —

They could have at least used a different picture not showing a grueling office job and maybe a new state of the art open gangway subway car.

UrbanImpact · #**4151** Posted **Feb 2, 2024, 1:25 PM**

Open gang-way cars have started service on the C line

• Video Link

mrnyc · #**4152** Posted **Feb 2, 2024, 11:25 PM**

^ yep -- below came via the mta weekender news email --

Happy Friday! We've got great news for C riders: the first of our new R211T open-gangway trains entered service on the C yesterday.
We hope you enjoy a look at the future of transportation!

mrnyc · #**4153** Posted **Feb 4, 2024, 2:49 AM**

all the way thru the new r211 C train
open gangway now in service —

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2z4_...ZkNnhqa2I5YQ==

ssiguy · #**4154** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 3:55 AM**

I cannot believe it has taken NYC this long to get open gangway trains and now they are shouting like they somehow invented it. Was this just a lack of foresight from previous administrations or just that the rolling stock was so old that they haven't really gotten many new trains in the last decade?

Busy Bee · #**4155** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 5:34 AM**

MTA is notoriously insular. Paired with the ridiculous notion and insistence that NYC is "unique" and can't be compared to other int'l standards gets them in a lot of trouble. Spending decades ordering non-open gangway rolling stock when it's obvious it was becoming the industry default is one of them. I'm not sure they're necessarily acting like they've reinvented the wheel here, but it is pretty clear they're proud of these and I definitely think they will likely modify the R211 contract to significantly increase the numbers which is what I think most transit advocates and thinkers had hoped for and honestly expected.

streetscaper · #**4156** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 4:40 PM**

Yeah, I don't see the MTA shouting like they invented it or something either

mrnyc · #**4157** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

I cannot believe it has taken NYC this long to get open gangway trains and now they are shouting like they somehow invented it. Was this just a lack of foresight from previous administrations or just that the rolling stock was so old that they haven't really gotten many new trains in the last decade?

there used to be open gangway back in the day:

The Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation (BMT), one of three operating authorities that were precursors to the amalgamated New York City Transit, ran three-car open gangway segments from 1925 to 1965.

also, its funny they get it back now when post covid ridership is generally down, so its kinda whatever.

mrnyc · #**4158** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 9:27 PM**

no cantilever fix for you —

EXCLUSIVE | Feds reject city’s $800M grant applications to redesign crumbling BQE cantilever

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on February 6, 2024

The Biden administration has rejected the city’s applications for $800 million in infrastructure grants to redesign and reconstruct the crumbling triple cantilever section of the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, amNewYork Metro has learned.

more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/feds-re...qe-cantilever/

The BQE’s triple cantilever section in Brooklyn Heights. File Photo by Todd Maisel

Busy Bee · #**4159** Posted **Feb 6, 2024, 9:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

there used to be open gangway back in the day:

The Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation (BMT), one of three operating authorities that were precursors to the amalgamated New York City Transit, ran three-car open gangway segments from 1925 to 1965.

also, its funny they get it back now when post covid ridership is generally down, so its kinda whatever.

Very true, but very primitive by modern standards. The private operated pre-unification period saw a lot of experimentation that you didn't see in the public owned era.

BMT D-Type Triplex

mrnyc · #**4160** Posted **Feb 12, 2024, 10:31 AM**

just commuter things —

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2skO...k0Y29mMWV0anR5