NEW YORK | 1 Park Row | 305 FT | 23 FLOORS

JMKeynes · #1 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 12:14 AM**

I thought that there was a thread for this, but I couldn’t find it.

https://therealdeal.com/2021/06/11/h...ith-120m-loan/

Busy Bee · #2 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 1:26 AM**

It's curious why they've been so reluctant to release a full height rendering. Do we even have a projected floor count?

JMKeynes · #3 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

It's curious why they've been so reluctant to release a full height rendering. Do we even have a projected floor count?

I agree.

I don’t think that it will be more than 400’ or 500’.

Crawford · #4 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 3:21 AM**

There was a rendering for this tower a few months ago. Maybe on NY YIMBY or City Realty?

Believe it's a fairly tall tower, but yeah, I don't think it was taller than 400-500 ft.

Busy Bee · #5 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 3:38 AM**

Well i haven't seen one and a google image search only shows this same base rendering we've seen for the last four years.

JMKeynes · #6 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 10:17 AM**

It will be 23 floors and 305’ tall. Fogsrty Finger is the architect.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

Busy Bee · #7 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 1:52 PM**

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So maybe the height between the second and last strut on the side there.

Busy Bee · #8 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 1:53 PM**

The Park Row Building is 390'

JMKeynes · #9 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 2:18 PM**

I’m glad that the beautiful crown on the old building won’t be obscured.

Visionist · #10 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 7:23 PM**

Half of those lot line windows are for apartment bedrooms aren't they? How's that gonna work?

Busy Bee · #11 Posted **Jun 12, 2021, 7:52 PM**

^The same way it works every time a new building goes up on an adjacent lot, "well shit, looks like you're outta luck." This literally has been happening for 150 years, not sure what the confusion about how this works is about.

Visionist · #12 Posted **Jun 13, 2021, 11:05 AM**

https://www.nyc-architecture.com/SCC/SCC012.htm

False alarm all lot line bedrooms also boast lightwell windows. That's not gonna help the units on the lower floors however.

Drcastro · #13 Posted **Jun 13, 2021, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

^The same way it works every time a new building goes up on an adjacent lot, "well shit, looks like you're outta luck." This literally has been happening for 150 years, not sure what the confusion about how this works is about.

Isn’t part of the confusion because in some cases developers bought the air rights to adjacent buildings so this wouldn’t be a problem? Those huge blank walls are built in the cases where they didn’t, I assume.

Busy Bee · #14 Posted **Jun 13, 2021, 4:33 PM**

^I think that is the case in relatively recent times. In pre-war buildings, if the lot line wall contained lot line windows, there was no guarantee those windows would not be obstructed by a new structure next door, in other words that building had no ownership of the air above the lower neighboring building. In those cases as in this case, the windows are removed and the window openings bricked in.

JMKeynes · #15 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 2:07 PM**

mrnyc · #16 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 2:10 PM**

i like it alot. good infill and nice to get rid of that stubby eyesore old j&r building. its handsome and bigger, yet without being at all bothersome.

JMKeynes · #17 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 2:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrnyc

i like it alot. good infill and nice to get rid of that stubby eyesore old j&r building. its handsome and bigger, yet without being at all bothersome.

I agree. The transformation of Park Row has been spectacular.

Busy Bee · #18 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 2:42 PM**

It's okay. I'm not sure I understand the necessity of the setbacks. The base is definitely a step down from the previous base rendering imo.

NYer34 · #19 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 3:11 PM**

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I agree. The transformation of Park Row has been spectacular.

I couldn't agree more. It's one of the few "unalloyed" good stories about NY architecture and development over the last 20 years.

So much of NYC development seems to leave the city worse off (e.g., anything happening in the Garment District ... the wiping out of entire blocks of century old buildings in Yorkville ... bland architecture replacing small-lot historic structures in nearly every corner of Midtown ... etc. etc. etc.).

Park Row is just a total win-win-win. Always happy to read updates on this block - unlike the cringe-inducing updates I see in threads about the Garment District, Midtown, etc.

Busy Bee · #20 Posted **Jun 18, 2021, 3:27 PM**

Previous base rendering to compare to new:

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First thing noticed is they have increased the base from 4 floors to 6.

While the massing of the full render looks good aside from the strange setbacks, I think I liked the detailing of the original 2017 base rendering more than the new. Dare I say the new render window treatment has a Chicago School feel to it?