noirish Los Angeles - Page 1717

Earl Boebert · #**34321** Posted **Mar 27, 2016, 8:05 PM**

Re: HossC's great series of that gorgeous MG TC touring various drive-establishments:

Does one get special dispensation to drive the wrong way at one's cleaning establishment and bank when one is in one's right-hand drive automobile?

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality · #**34322** Posted **Mar 27, 2016, 9:00 PM**

Welcome to 'noirish' Los Angeles re:LAX!

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One day I'll walk over to 724 S. Genesee and snap a nighttime pic.

That would be great.

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ethereal_reality · #**34323** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 12:05 AM**

'mystery' location

"Streetcar 286 on U route at an unknown location."

old file /

I'm especially curious about the bluish building hidden behind the streetcar (note it's undulating 'wave-like' roof-line that extends down the street)

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ethereal_reality · #**34324** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 12:14 AM**

'mystery' location #2

I don't believe we've seen this intriguing view on NLA.

old file / possibly found on eBay

lots of street construction going on. Can anyone tell what they're doing?

I thought the taller white building in the upper left corner might be the old Elks Building (next to MacArthur Park), but now I'm not so sure.
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ethereal_reality · #**34325** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 1:49 AM**

5196 Borland Road, City Terrace, Los Angeles CA [1926]

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/31163/rec/2

....and today.

gsv

-not sure how the 4 windows in the middle became only 2 windows.

they added some length to the garage on the right, and as you would expect, it looks like sh*t.

the archway on the left might be missing, but I'm not sure.

note the house behind, facing in the opposite direction toward the hillside. (I'm impressed at how strong that back wall looks)

Noircitydame · #**34326** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Great follow-up, NCD. Julius Shulman took this photo of Innes Shoes in 1949. Sadly, there's only one image in the set. This must be the parking lot side. It's "Job 557: Burton Schutt, Innes Shoe Store (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1949".

Fabulous, thank you! When I read the description of the Innes store a couple years ago, I never dreamed I'd see a photo of it.

I'm hoping Mr. Shulman shot another building that sounds intriguing: the J.A. Eisele Lincoln-Mercury dealership at 11750 Wilshire. It opened May 8, 1953 and took up a whole block. Per the Times it had "a swimming pool for the use of customers, a new type translucent plastic roof for outdoor displays, a huge daylighted showroom crowned by a crystal chandelier from New Orleans, and more than a mile and half of fluorescent tube lights..." A pool, really?

lat 1953

Lwize · #**34327** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame

I'm hoping Mr. Shulman shot another building that sounds intriguing: the J.A. Eisele Lincoln-Mercury dealership at 11750 Wilshire. It opened May 8, 1953 and took up a whole block. Per the Times it had "a swimming pool for the use of customers, a new type translucent plastic roof for outdoor displays, a huge daylighted showroom crowned by a crystal chandelier from New Orleans, and more than a mile and half of fluorescent tube lights..." A pool, really?

Nothing to show for it today. 11750 Wilshire is a vacant Pavilions market with an office tower next door.

I work a couple of blocks away and often have lunch across the street at a little Thai place. Tasty green curry.

westcork · #**34328** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 3:38 AM**

I love how the window alarm tape looks like a stylish deign. I remember my dad's machine shop used the same tape, same pattern.

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Does anyone recognize this cleaning establishment?

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HenryHuntington · #**34329** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 4:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location

"Streetcar 286 on U route at an unknown location."

old file /

I'm especially curious about the bluish building hidden behind the streetcar (note it's undulating 'wave-like' roof-line that extends down the street)

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I'm not familiar with this scene, but my 1945 LATL route map suggests that 286 is turning from W. 5th St. onto S. Figueroa St. The only other intersection where it would've been making a right-angle left turn while signed as a U Line car for Florence & Vermont would've been from Estrella Ave. onto W. 23rd St., and that neighborhood consisted of single-family homes. Thoughts?

Flyingwedge · #**34330** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location

"Streetcar 286 on U route at an unknown location."

old file /

I'm especially curious about the bluish building hidden behind the streetcar (note it's undulating 'wave-like' roof-line that extends down the street)

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e_r, I can't help you with the blueish building. However, behind the streetcar is the northeast corner
of 5th and Figueroa Streets.

Behind the blueish building is the Streicher Apartments at 454 S. Figueroa, seen below c. 1916 with the
old Woolen Mill across the street, south of the Walgrove. In your photo, the white building behind the
Streicher is the Rubiyat at 427 S. Hope.

In your photo 5th Street has been put through whereas in the photo below that has not yet occurred,
and I don't know when that happened:

USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1348

P.S. D'oh! HH beat me to it.

HenryHuntington · #**34331** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 4:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location #2

I don't believe we've seen this intriguing view on NLA.

old file / possibly found on eBay

lots of street construction going on. Can anyone tell what they're doing?

I thought the taller white building in the upper left corner might be the old Elks Building (next to MacArthur Park), but now I'm not so sure.
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We're looking north (note the Hollywood Hills in the distance) on Vermont Ave., though I'm not quite sure exactly where. LATL 89 is operating on the V Line, so it would have to be north of Vernon Ave. Given the equipment in the photo, it dates to ca.1947.

As I only see gravel but no replacement rail or crossties, it looks like the construction work is for reballasting at most or repaving at least.

HenryHuntington · #**34332** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 4:21 AM**

D'oh! HH beat me to it.

Barely. And you not only nailed the location but provided that most interesting photo of the Stretcher Apartments and the adjacent neighborhood. Great job, Flyingwedge!

Retired_in_Texas · #**34333** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 5:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame

Fabulous, thank you! When I read the description of the Innes store a couple years ago, I never dreamed I'd see a photo of it.

I'm hoping Mr. Shulman shot another building that sounds intriguing: the J.A. Eisele Lincoln-Mercury dealership at 11750 Wilshire. It opened May 8, 1953 and took up a whole block. Per the Times it had "a swimming pool for the use of customers, a new type translucent plastic roof for outdoor displays, a huge daylighted showroom crowned by a crystal chandelier from New Orleans, and more than a mile and half of fluorescent tube lights..." A pool, really?

lat 1953

Before showing up on Wilshire J.A. Eisele and two of his sons owned a Packard dealership in Dallas, Texas

(from Packard Museum Library)

This beautiful Art Deco building was only occupied by the Eisele dealership for about two years. At the beginning of WWII they sold it to become a training facility for war industry workers.

Noircitydame · #**34334** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 6:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lwize

Nothing to show for it today. 11750 Wilshire is a vacant Pavilions market with an office tower next door.

I work a couple of blocks away and often have lunch across the street at a little Thai place. Tasty green curry.

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Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas

Before showing up on Wilshire J.A. Eisele and two of his sons owned a Packard dealership in Dallas, Texas

(from Packard Museum Library)

This beautiful Art Deco building was only occupied by the Eisele dealership for about two years. At the beginning of WWII they sold it to become a training facility for war industry workers.

Thanks Lwize. So, no more pool, no chandelier-

Looks like he always went for styleish buildings, Retired in Texas.

Noircitydame · #**34335** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 6:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

Most of the Julius Shulman photosets only include a building name, architect and date. Just occasionally there's an address or extra piece of information (e.g. the set below says "For Living for Young Homemakers"). USC often include scans of the containing envelopes with their images, and even then, information is scarce. Admittedly, having the location would make things easier, but it would also take away some of the fun

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I'm confused by today's Julius Shulman photoset - I think it's been mislabeled. Its title is "Job 1250: Henry Hester, Gill Apartments (Los Angeles, Calif.),1952", but it includes an indentifiable exterior shot of 315 South Virgil Avenue (see post #33851) as well as several interior and exterior images which may or may not be from the same location. In the middle are these four photos of a couple in an MG visiting various drive-in businesses. Does anyone recognize this cleaning establishment?

I assumed part of the name was cut off in the photo, but nope, that's it- the "A" Co. cleaning and laundry, 3636 W. Olympic Blvd. With "ample drive in facilities."

lat 7-25-1951

Those Who Squirm! · #**34336** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 7:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

[I]Earl Bruce (sometimes you see his first name spelled Earle) was a pretty flamboyant character. Among other things, Earl was a one-time movie actor and singer under contract, race car driver, and drinking buddy of both Von Dutch and Dick Hirschberg (who also owned a bar across from L.A.'s Union Station rail terminal in the '40's.). Bruce owned a bar on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood, called the Big Top, a kind of combination beer hall/jazz club. Von Dutch would work at his mechanic shop until around 11:00pm, then wander down to the Big Top after that to drink and play his flute.

Would that be the same Dick Hershberg discussed here, who founded the Galloping Goose MC in the 1940s? BTW "Galloping Goose" was originally the nickname of Hershberg's own Harley, which sported the running finger logo that would later become the MC's official patch. The club originated as a group of like-minded bike enthusiasts who hung out and competed in races alongside Hershberg. But where was this bar he owned, "across from the rail terminal"? Googling on the origins of the MC does yield references to a Pullman Bar, which would make sense if it was right across the street from a train station. But the address of this bar turns out to be many blocks away at 417 South Spring--about a mile and a half away.

Clearly, whoever placed this image has good reason to believe that this is the bar we're talking about, but, again, the address makes no sense whatsoever.

Does anyone have any further information? Thoughts, even?

HossC · #**34337** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 11:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame

I assumed part of the name was cut off in the photo, but nope, that's it- the "A" Co. cleaning and laundry, 3636 W. Olympic Blvd. With "ample drive in facilities."

lat 7-25-1951

Thanks for finding this advert, NCD. I also assumed that the business would have a longer name. The building is still standing, but it's been divided into separate stores.

GSV

Noircitydame · #**34338** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 2:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm

Would that be the same Dick Hershberg discussed here, who founded the Galloping Goose MC in the 1940s? BTW "Galloping Goose" was originally the nickname of Hershberg's own Harley, which sported the running finger logo that would later become the MC's official patch. The club originated as a group of like-minded bike enthusiasts who hung out and competed in races alongside Hershberg. But where was this bar he owned, "across from the rail terminal"? Googling on the origins of the MC does yield references to a Pullman Bar, which would make sense if it was right across the street from a train station. But the address of this bar turns out to be many blocks away at 417 South Spring--about a mile and a half away.

Clearly, whoever placed this image has good reason to believe that this is the bar we're talking about, but, again, the address makes no sense whatsoever.

Does anyone have any further information? Thoughts, even?

My thought was that it must not be the same Pullman Bar? I found the original ad appeared in the Los Angeles Herald, September 3, 1905.

By the early '20s 417 South Spring was a tailor's. In 1927 a parking garage was built on the site, Metropolitan Garage. Title Insurance Co. next door bought it in 1952 and made it into their annex.

lat 12-7-52

oldstuff · #**34339** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

The Hollywood Bowl does not list a Sunrise Easter Service for 2016. I guess the event is dead.

http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/tickets/calendar/2016-03

Another thing that is no more...... I do think that my parents are somewhere in the choir in that picture.

HossC · #**34340** Posted **Mar 28, 2016, 5:31 PM**

While looking for pictures of Zinke's yesterday, I found this 1927 shot of the Royal Credit Jewelers at 708 South Hill Street (Zinke's is on the far right).

USC Digital Library

To put it in context, here's a 1928 detail shot I posted when we were discussing the Cutts Building/Sun Building. By then, the jewelers had acquired a large clock.

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Originally Posted by HossC

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

I bet you're all thinking, "I wish we could see the jewelers' neon at night". Luckily, Dick Whittington thought of that too.

USC Digital Library

The neon is long gone, but 708 S Hill is still a jewelry store.

GSV