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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 3:27 AM
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Really. Hmmm might be a new place to pick up the ladies. IKEA was getting boring lol
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what is browns exactly also guys take the discution to the western expresso thread... stop derailing this one
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 5:49 AM
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Browns...a smaller Earls? Neighbourhood lounge-restaurant. It's trying to be a lot of things at once.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 2:31 PM
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Browns Socialhouse, Original Joe's and State & Main are all under the same umbrella company, from my understanding. Typical chain bar food type place.
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Sage creek might as well be on the moon for most people.
ok, maybe for those that don't live in the South East corner of the city or have a car. It's not a "destination" restaurant location, but between Sage Creek, Island Lakes and Royalwood, there are 1000's of families all within a 5 minute drive. Add in Southdale and Windsor park, max 10 minute drive. I play hockey nearby 1 x a week and typically we go to BP on St.Annes or Tapps on Dakota, now Brown's in Sage Creek will be even closer for most of us. So although Sage Creek may seem like a little town that you can only get to by horse drawn carriage, it's actually quite close to 1000's of families. I don't live there (I 'm in Norwood Flats), however I'm quite impressed with Sage Creek as a suburb, lots of trails, close shopping, school soon, different house styles and sizes, etc.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 2:44 PM
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It'll serve its purpose, for sure. Just meaning if anyone has to get to Browns for whatever reason, the Sage Creek location is out of the way for a lot of folks. I guess that could be said for any location really.
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You can take the Browns SocialHouse discussion to the Restaurant thread. Greatly appreciated.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=167137

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Yes, I was going to say, was this not the thread from T N S?
Chain eateries have their own thread on restaurants..

Speaking of True North Square, From the first rendering, I am underwhelmed by the look of the proposed 5 star Hotel , Sutton Place tower and the residences tower?
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 3:47 PM
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I'm going to assume that design will change a bit. Sounds like they've only been involved a short while. Maybe it's just a crappy rendering.
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Good point; having joined the fray late in the game, Northland presumably had the rendering quickly produced, or it is an actual rendering for another project they simply used for this purpose.
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2016, 8:17 PM
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If Brown's is opening 10 locations in the City perhaps they can open one in TNS in addition to the one in CentrePoint. It would be similar to the old double A&W on Portage near Polo but a little further apart!
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Walked by the site through MTS centre skywalk and there's a third piling rig on site, down in the hole. Not sure how long it's been there. But appears there are round cages of rebar on site. Looks like they're getting started on some actual foundation work.
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Also, did a quick check. Browns is not part of the OJ and State & Main group. Looks like they're separate. Apologies mods for continuing on.
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A few more city shots from the proposal site..




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The first photo: how nice to pan over to the right and see the mighty SkyCity strike a pose.
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Thanks Cyro!

It still amazes me how spread out downtown Winnipeg is. Even with these (~5) towers built, there will still be tons of potential development sites remaining.

The best thing about building these kinds of towers is that as the amount of available space downtown starts to decrease, it becomes even more premium and perhaps (?) more affordable to build up
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3/4 of the site is now a pit moving pritty quick
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Thanks Cyro!

It still amazes me how spread out downtown Winnipeg is. Even with these (~5) towers built, there will still be tons of potential development sites remaining.

The best thing about building these kinds of towers is that as the amount of available space downtown starts to decrease, it becomes even more premium and perhaps (?) more affordable to build up
Poor planning. In defense of this, 100 years ago, the thought was the city would grow to become closer to Minneapolis. Of course, one of the most prominent nails in the proverbial coffin was the exodus of the U of M. Reducing suburban sprawl while redeveloping areas closer to downtown is critical. Another aspect to note is not seeing freeways in aerials, which would have replaced a significant portion of land close to downtown.
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Poor planning. In defense of this, 100 years ago, the thought was the city would grow to become closer to Minneapolis. Of course, one of the most prominent nails in the proverbial coffin was the exodus of the U of M. Reducing suburban sprawl while redeveloping areas closer to downtown is critical. Another aspect to note is not seeing freeways in aerials, which would have replaced a significant portion of land close to downtown.
Looking back on things, downtown could have been a totally different place if the original residential character of the area south of St. Mary Ave. was left intact, so that the area between the river and St. Mary Ave. would have effectively been a big residential neighbourhood like Osborne Village, or if you want an out of town example, Regina's "transition area".

I guess in the postwar boom era the old turn of the century houses were falling apart and everyone figured that skyscrapers would replace them, so everything was flattened. As it turned out, very little of that space was actually needed and 60 years later we're still trying to fill all of the voids in that area.

Had the area remained residential, it probably would have concentrated more development into the Portage Avenue and Main Street corridor. It probably would have also kept a critical mass of activity in what is still the most forlorn part of downtown, basically the northernmost stretch above the Exchange District. It would have also resulted in a much more substantial downtown residential neighbourhood.

Expanding the CBD area to its current footprint was a big mistake that we're still paying for.
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