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Old Posted Oct 2, 2017, 6:47 PM
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I had an open mind, but seeing Smith align himself with Ready To Engage really sealed that he isn't someone I want as Mayor. He was just spouting the same misinformation and was aligning himself with a NIMBY group without exploring the issue with others who might have an alternative view. I understand how opposing the SWBRT might win votes on the local Ward level, but I think he misjudged that stance when he is trying to appeal all across the City and across different demographics.
I think it just revealed that it is all about the money when it comes to Bill Smith (BS). The "ready to engage" folks are extremely well funded and have massive businesses backing them.

BS might have been able to damage Nenshi more if he wasn't the #NeoCitranHaze candidate that cannot speak eloquently and figures revealing no solutions and no policies is enough to get him elected. Bad move.

I'd rather a Mayor that tries his best and appreciates expert opinions, rather than one who chooses not to get into the arena and is controlled by outside businesses. Nenshi is a knowledge society choice. Much better than a Post-Fact, Post-Media, Post-Truth option that is built on Fake News and Alternative Facts.
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I had an open mind, but seeing Smith align himself with Ready To Engage really sealed that he isn't someone I want as Mayor. He was just spouting the same misinformation and was aligning himself with a NIMBY group without exploring the issue with others who might have an alternative view. I understand how opposing the SWBRT might win votes on the local Ward level, but I think he misjudged that stance when he is trying to appeal all across the City and across different demographics.
Agree with this 100%. Sadly I don't think many people in Calgary are aware of what Ready2Engage is all about or their methods for trying to force the city to bend to their will. Not to mention the fact that the south crosstown BRT also relies on the SW transit-way infrastructure. If I was part of Nenshi's team I would be trying to hammer this point home in the media along with the CBC video of the anti-transit Mercedes guy from that one open house. If I was the city, I would secretly swap construction of the portion of the transit-way from Heritage Drive to Glenmore Trail to the south crosstown BRT project so that that part would be built no matter what and really screw with the Ready2Engage people in Eagle Ridge.
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Agree with this 100%. Sadly I don't think many people in Calgary are aware of what Ready2Engage is all about or their methods for trying to force the city to bend to their will.
Unfortunately, it is possibly the same with the Flames ownership.
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Unfortunately, it is possibly the same with the Flames ownership.
If I was Nenshi I wouldn't make behavior an election issue.

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"Over-spending and taxes — not a new arena — top Calgary voter concerns in new poll"

The survey found that a majority of those polled, 55 percent, said they believe city hall is spending too much, while 30 percent said the municipal government is doing a good job with expenses.

Eleven per cent said the city isn’t spending enough, while the rest didn’t know.

When asked to rank the single-largest issue facing Calgary, taxes and money management took the top spot, with 31 percent of those polled listing these concerns.

The economy and jobs came in a close second, with 23 percent citing these issues, while a new Flames arena was listed by just eight percent of respondents.

Full story at: http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/o...new-arena-top-voter-concerns-in-new-poll
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"Pollster says track record speaks for itself after Nenshi's campaign team questions results"

“This poll does not reflect what the consensus has been in the gap between Nenshi and Smith,” reads a quote from Nenshi-contracted pollster Brian F. Singh.

“Second, this poll has women more supportive of Smith by 18 points over Nenshi. This is a stunning finding, and does not align with anything we have seen.”

Full story at: http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...after-nenshis-campaign-questions-results

So I was right. Brian Singh is behind this alternate poll that Suburbia claims will show all is well in Nenshiland. But if everything is truly fine why the need to attack the credentials of a polling firms with a sterling record in Alberta? I'm sensing a lot of panic in the Nenshi camp. I'm also expecting them to get very nasty in the final two weeks of the campaign. Care to give us some insider info Suburbia as to what we might expect?
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I know no one usually cares about school trustees but that's quite the dumpster fire burning down in the SE

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I know no one usually cares about school trustees but that's quite the dumpster fire burning down in the SE

http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/201...or-attack-comments-you-are-finished.html
Usually most people have no clue who is running for school trustees. Or anything else for that matter thanks to the ridiculously short campaign cycles we have.
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"Pollster says track record speaks for itself after Nenshi's campaign team questions results"

“This poll does not reflect what the consensus has been in the gap between Nenshi and Smith,” reads a quote from Nenshi-contracted pollster Brian F. Singh.

“Second, this poll has women more supportive of Smith by 18 points over Nenshi. This is a stunning finding, and does not align with anything we have seen.”

Full story at: http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...after-nenshis-campaign-questions-results

So I was right. Brian Singh is behind this alternate poll that Suburbia claims will show all is well in Nenshiland. But if everything is truly fine why the need to attack the credentials of a polling firms with a sterling record in Alberta? I'm sensing a lot of panic in the Nenshi camp. I'm also expecting them to get very nasty in the final two weeks of the campaign. Care to give us some insider info Suburbia as to what we might expect?
The "other" not "alternate" polls are from the same outfit that produced the questionable one, but the Calgary Herald only published one of the ones provided to them.

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The survey found that a majority of those polled, 55 percent
Well that knocks Bill Smith out, the Flames supported candidate who wants to dole out more tax payer dollars to UK owner of the Flames, at the behest of a NY lawyer.

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Well that knocks Bill Smith out, the Flames supported candidate who wants to dole out more tax payer dollars to UK owner of the Flames, at the behest of a NY lawyer.
Care to back that up? I haven't managed to find any statement of substance from Bill Smith about what he thinks the city ought to contribute. Certainly not at http://www.billsmithformayor.ca/bills_policies, where he says, "I believe a new arena can be constructed with minimal direct cost to Calgary taxpayers."

(Seriously, please, let's see some actual facts here. If you want to complain about a candidate failing to state a position, that's fair game. But don't put words in their mouths.)
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Care to back that up? I haven't managed to find any statement of substance from Bill Smith
Via Ken K.
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Care to back that up? I haven't managed to find any statement of substance from Bill Smith about what he thinks the city ought to contribute. Certainly not at http://www.billsmithformayor.ca/bills_policies, where he says, "I believe a new arena can be constructed with minimal direct cost to Calgary taxpayers."

(Seriously, please, let's see some actual facts here. If you want to complain about a candidate failing to state a position, that's fair game. But don't put words in their mouths.)
Suburbia and the rest of the Nenshi team are in panic mode. The only thing that I can find that Smith has said concerning the arena is that he'll get a deal done. You'd think that Nenshi's team could use just that to go after him but since they have no plans to ever deal with the Flames its better in their minds to make people think that Smith will give the Flames and evil Gary Bettman anything they want.
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Where's your proof that Ken King is part of Bill Smith's campaign team? If he was that would be the end of Smith's run for mayor.
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Where's your proof that Ken King is part of Bill Smith's campaign team? If he was that would be the end of Smith's run for mayor.
It is too bad you are not in those circles.

This is precisely the reason BS doesn't want to release names of his supporters.

This point, the want to hide his financial backers, is in and of itself a major element of this election. Why would people want to back a man who will not tell him who his financiers are?
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Another platform policy plank:

A Better Economy
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The economic downturn caused by the decline in energy prices has been challenging for our community. We went from having the lowest unemployment rate in Canada to the highest in just 18 months. During the same period, our downtown vacancy rate went from near zero to 30 per cent. Although the economists tell us that the recession ended about 6 months ago and that the economy is generating new jobs, far too many of our neighbours still feel the pain of unemployment and underemployment.

Unlike previous downturns, this one represents a structural change in our economy and we must adapt. We must continue to champion the Canadian energy sector and market access while pursuing diversification in the six key sectors in our economic strategy: agribusiness, clean tech/green tech/renewables, creative industries, financial services, tourism, and transportation and logistics, while fostering innovation and technology that builds the economy.

My plan to build a better economy includes the following:
Invest in Infrastructure

This year, due to our prudent financial management, we were able to deploy $2 billion into the local economy to build infrastructure and create jobs, while freezing your taxes. We must continue to stimulate the economy by making strategic investments in infrastructure. The following are my infrastructure priorities:

Improve our Road Network. We have to continue building the road infrastructure required to keep our city moving. This includes interchanges and road improvements at key chokepoints in our road network, such as Airport Trail and Crowchild Trail.

Build the Green Line and the Bus Rapid Transit Network. The Green Line is the largest infrastructure investment in Calgary’s history. We must carefully manage the procurement and construction of this project to ensure that it’s delivered on time and on budget. We must also complete the Bus Rapid Transit projects that are underway and transform our transit system from being hub & spoke to system to where Calgarians can more easily move across their city in any direction.

Renew and Expand our Community Infrastructure. We need to ensure that Council renews the Community Investment Fund, which was established in 2012, to help construct, renovate and expand fire halls, libraries, parks and recreation centres needed to maintain our quality of life.

Invest in the Cultural and Entertainment District. We must continue our successful redevelopment of the East Village, which attracted $3 billion of private investment, by going south of the tracks to Victoria Park. This also is the perfect spot for a new arena, but we need a mayor who will fight for a fair deal for taxpayers.

Sell Calgary

For the past seven years it has been a privilege to represent Calgary and promote our city across the country and around the world to businesses and investors. Working with Calgary Economic Development, we have attracted and supported over 90 new companies,creating 2,700 jobs, since 2016, including Rocketspace, a leading Silicon Valley incubator.

I will continue to sell Calgary by :

Tackling our our downtown office vacancy problem, 30,000 square feet at a time if necessary, by recruiting companies to relocate or expand their operations in Calgary;

Promoting Calgary’s incredible entrepreneurs and businesses to help them gain customers in new markets; and

Hosting trade delegations and attending trade missions abroad to promote our city and our talented workforce.

We must also sell Calgary to Calgarians - there has been far too much “down-talk” of our city. We live in one of the best places in the world - The Economist named us the fifth best city in the world to live in. I will encourage Calgarians to be ambassadors and not detractors for our city.
Establish a Mayor's Business Advisory Council

Understanding the needs and challenges of Calgary businesses is critical to tackling the structural issues in our economy. It is vital for the City to work collaboratively with the business community in order to build a stronger and more diverse economy. I will establish a formal advisory group, The Mayor’s Business Advisory Council, made up of business leaders from small, medium and large businesses to help the City understand, consider and act on their concerns and ideas.
Support Growth, Diversification and Innovation

Our economic strategy is focused on growing agribusiness, clean tech, creative industries, financial services, tourism, and transportation and logistics. The City’s role is to ensure our rules and processes facilitate growth in these sectors. We need to cut red tape, revamp our industrial land strategy, continue investing in infrastructure that supports economic growth and diversification, such as the new Calgary Film Centre. In addition, Council has established an Economic Development Investment Fund which will provide a source funds to help support these efforts.
Advocate for the Energy Industry

Although we must continue to diversify our economy, the energy industry will always play a critical role in our future economic growth. I have been an outspoken, credible advocate for the need for new pipelines to get our energy to tidewater, and I have worked hard to talk to Canadians outside of Alberta about the critical role that Canadian energy plays in our national economy. I will continue to be a strong advocate for Canada’s energy industry.

As the global energy market evolves, Calgary is taking a greater leadership role in the use of technology in the energy industry, including clean-tech and renewables. We must continue to to hold our position as the center of the energy industry in Canada and fill those downtown office towers with companies that can build innovative businesses. I will continue to promote our innovative energy companies across the country and around the world to help promote investment and pursue new markets for their solutions.
Partner with our Post-Secondary institutions

The City must pursue a deeper relationship with its postsecondary institutions to foster entrepreneurship and create the right environment to commercialize research. Our post secondary institutions need to develop the right talent to address future challenges, including implementing specialized programs to help our talented workforce adapt to a changing economy.

As well, we can use our city as a living lab for incubating new technologies and processes. The City has already partnered with the University of Calgary in groundbreaking research in wastewater treatment and experiments involving our dedicates fibre optic network.
Extend the 5% Cap on Municipal Portion of the Non-Residential Property Tax

In 2017, the spike in the commercial vacancy rate caused a sudden shift in the market value assessment of non-residential properties from the downtown core to non-downtown properties. This shift meant that certain businesses outside the downtown core were facing a dramatic increase in their non-residential tax bill.

At my request, Council approved a $45 million program to help businesses weather this shift in the market by limiting the maximum increase of the municipal portion of those taxes to 5%. I support extending this relief program for another year which will allow more time for the downtown core to recover.

By listening closely to business leaders and working with our entire community we can meet the challenges posed by unemployment and downtown office vacancy and emerge from this downturn stronger than ever. Together we can build better economy where all Calgarians have the opportunity to share in the prosperity of this place.
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Great synopsis of today's debate at the chamber:
https://twitter.com/TheCritninja/status/915007649300733952
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An article that sums up last night's debate:

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Nenshi warns of 'colder, meaner, smaller, elite-run city' at debate as rival Smith urges voters to fire mayor

Annalise Klingbeil, Calgary Herald
Published on: October 3, 2017

Calgary’s empty downtown core, tech giant Amazon and non-residential property taxes were front and centre at a mayoral debate hosted by the Calgary Chamber of Commerce on Monday evening.

Only three candidates in the race for mayor — incumbent Naheed Nenshi, businessman and lawyer Bill Smith, and Ward 10 Coun. Andre Chabot — were invited to participate in the economic-focused forum featuring questions from business owners, held at the Palace Theatre downtown.
Full article here: http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...rival-smith-urges-citizens-to-fire-mayor

Here's my take of how the campaign is unfolding and why I'm concerned for Nenshi's chance at re-election (Full disclosure, I plan on voting for Nenshi). Team Bill Smith is backed by a lot of political warriors from the PCs. They may not know how to govern but these people know how to campaign and they have settled on a fairly simple strategy.

1. Find a vanilla candidate that doesn't have much of a strong political personality of their own. Bill Smith is that person. He appears to be a likeable fellow. He's a person people can see themselves voting for and most importantly he stays on script. Anyone who thinks that he is campaigning on his ideas are fooling themselves. The article by Don Braid not too long ago that talked about how handlers were holding up talking point signs during interviews shows that Bill Smith isn't conveying his ideas. Bill Smith is simply fronting the old PC political club that have now been out of power for 2 years and desperately want it back.

2. Push that the candidate as the natural alternative choice and find conservative friendly voices in the media to push that point. Why was Bill Smith seen as the natural #2 candidate in people's minds? In my opinion it was because opinion columns by the Rick Bells and Licia Corbellas of the world made him the #2 candidate and the rest of the media picked up on the narrative and ran with it. Prior to a few of those columns nobody I talked to even knew who Bill Smith was and those who were against Nenshi were planning on voting for Chabot or an alternative candidate. Those vote shifted to Smith after the columns were published although those same people still had no clue who Bill Smith was or why he was or should be considered the #2 candidate.

3. Keep the #2 candidate theme going and give your vanilla candidate one good quote per appearance. Almost everybody I've talked to who has seen Bill Smith perform at a debate says that he is an absolutely terrible debater and his performance has cost him the votes of those in the audience. But you wouldn't know that because almost all the media coverage from the debates (including the article I quoted) feature one or two strong quotable lines that he delivered (usually in his prepared closing remarks). The result is the articles make Bill Smith appear much stronger than he actually is and people begin to buy into the image of the candidate rather than the candidate himself (or how Trump got elected 101)

4. Luck out with a candidate who thinks he's a shoe-in for re-election. Unfortunately this means Nenshi. I think the Nenshi campaign has been running something close to a 'front-runners' campaign when they should be running a campaign that puts a lot more pressure on Bill Smith and trying to expose how little he's actually brought to the table in this campaign. Campaign as if there's a real chance you might lose. Sadly (for me) I don't think the Nenshi campaign is doing this.

Long story short, I think Bill Smith stands a real chance at winning because of a strong campaign team and not because of what he will actually deliver to Calgarians. He is being packaged and delivered to Calgary voters who may be tiring of the status quo and the campaign is betting that most voters won't delve beneath the surface when it comes to his campaign ideas. The fact that many members of Ready2Engage are part of his campaign means I have no respect for his team and personally the last thing I want to see is that small inner-circle trying to shape Calgary. I don't always see eye to eye with Chabot but I feel he has earned and should be rewarded with conservative votes long before Bill Smith.
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One thing I'll add is Nenshi's personality, perhaps one could say unnecessarily argumentative personality is a big liability. When you're a progressive innercity-type candidate in a unicity where the suburbs hugely outvote the innercity vote, the last thing you want is to be seen as a jerk to those who disagree with you.
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