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Old Posted Mar 14, 2011, 3:36 PM
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Where did they get $500,000,000? And why aren't they spending it on transit?
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I think Farhi & Fontana will work good together to make something big happen for the downtown!!!!!!!!!!
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I think Farhi & Fontana will work good together to make something big happen for the downtown!!!!!!!!!!
While I'm sure the article is buttered up, I sure hope they can work together.

London's done a decent job with improving the downtown. Let's keep it going for the better!
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I think Farhi & Fontana will work good together to make something big happen for the downtown!!!!!!!!!!many more bananas
I think it may turn out to be good news, but... what exactly has Farhi done in the past that's brought any benefit to us? Were we not all skeptical of his intentions just a few months ago? Also, why is part of this $500 million not being put towards an LRT network and/or a VMP that'll be finished before 2073?
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I think it may turn out to be good news, but... what exactly has Farhi done in the past that's brought any benefit to us? Were we not all skeptical of his intentions just a few months ago? Also, why is part of this $500 million not being put towards an LRT network and/or a VMP that'll be finished before 2073?
Yes exactly...why?
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Why should you assume that it's $500M of City-only funding?
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Why should you assume that it's $500M of City-only funding?
The article makes mention for the need for privet investment. Fontana made mention of the rate of privet investment that is generated from public spending. He also talked about p3 investment on the South Street Site. Your right there is no sign that this is all city money.
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As far as Farhi, this is a man who grabs up under valued property and then turns it into a black top parking lot as quick as possible, or drives up the vacancy rate in his buildings to increase the demand. He is a property prospector looking to screw every one over he can. The heritage buildings he can't knock down he pressures the government into leasing with hollow threats of illegally destroying them.

In time he hopes for demand to rise so he can flip CIBC building for millions.

Farhi is a scum bag!!
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As far as Farhi, this is a man who grabs up under valued property and then turns it into a black top parking lot as quick as possible, or drives up the vacancy rate in his buildings to increase the demand. He is a property prospector looking to screw every one over he can. The heritage buildings he can't knock down he pressures the government into leasing with hollow threats of illegally destroying them.

In time he hopes for demand to rise so he can flip CIBC building for millions.

Farhi is a scum bag!!

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As far as Farhi, this is a man who grabs up under valued property and then turns it into a black top parking lot as quick as possible, or drives up the vacancy rate in his buildings to increase the demand. He is a property prospector looking to screw every one over he can. The heritage buildings he can't knock down he pressures the government into leasing with hollow threats of illegally destroying them.

In time he hopes for demand to rise so he can flip CIBC building for millions.

Farhi is a scum bag!!

What is this drivel? He drives up vacancy to increase demand? He screws everyone over he can? So he illegally destroyed the capital theater? Talk about a bunch of bull, or someone who really doesn't know jack*#@%.
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Don't mess with this guy.
He practically owns London....you know, in the construction industry, it is easy to make a person...disappear.
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He requested a demolition permit for the Capital Theater and got a permit for the theater but not the entrance. He wanted the hole thing demolished for 50 extra parking spaces, which would just mean another gap in the street scape on Dundas.

"Shmuel Farhi said he needs parking, the Capitol facade is in poor condition and, in any case, it is not historically significant."
(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Now it is clear that though it was in poor condition underneath the sheet metal facade there was still a building of great value and historical significants.

"Farhi said any refusal may see him resort to moving his office tenants to buildings outside the core which has parking -- the city allows 5,500- square-foot office buildings outside downtown."
(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Instead of reaching a compromise with the city Farhi started making threats in front of the media.

"Farhi said he would save the facade if the city leased space in it"(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Even though he purchased the building of his own free will he expects the city to continue to take responsibility for it much like the threats to close the Bell Building if the city or, Bell did not lease it.

"Downtown London's largest landowner says he'll let his buildings rot or raze them and divert $100 million in investments if the city doesn't help solve the core's parking problems."
(By JOE BELANGER, FREE PRESS CITY HALL REPORTER)

When he didn't get his demolition permit (for 50 spaces) he made the above threat and abandonment of buildings that threatens public safety or, demolition of buildings with out permits is illegal. Not to mention these threats are to get money out of the government......

This is not the only time he has pulled this crap, The Lithography building, and now the Bell Building are the same thing.
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Better the Devil You Know?

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Why should you assume that it's $500M of City-only funding?
When did I say I thought it was city-only funding? My only question is: if the city can acquire $500 million why don't they spend it only desperately needed transit improvements?

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As far as Farhi, this is a man who grabs up under valued property and then turns it into a black top parking lot as quick as possible, or drives up the vacancy rate in his buildings to increase the demand. He is a property prospector looking to screw every one over he can. The heritage buildings he can't knock down he pressures the government into leasing with hollow threats of illegally destroying them.

In time he hopes for demand to rise so he can flip CIBC building for millions.

Farhi is a scum bag!!
Agreed on all points.
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No I totally agree transit should be a part of the spending, and I was confirming that there is good reason to think it is not $500 million in city money.
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When did I say I thought it was city-only funding? My only question is: if the city can acquire $500 million why don't they spend it only desperately needed transit improvements?
1) If the City can acquire $500M from whatever source(s) and then spend it on what it wants to, this is effectively City-only funding, as the City is controlling its disbursement.

2) Why do you think that City is acquiring $500M? Ever considered that this is a public/private scheme where much of the funding is private for private developments, or perhaps a 3P arrangement?

3) Perhaps not everyone (or even the majority) thinks that the cornucopia of urban development is a LRT (I assume that's what you are thinking when you say "transit'. I'm sure that you didn't mean to imply more buses). Perhaps some people have alternative ideas for economic development outside of the world of public transit that might produce more rapid payoffs in terms of economic growth and job creation. Outside of students, public transit is far from foremost in the vast majority's mind.
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3) Perhaps not everyone (or even the majority) thinks that the cornucopia of urban development is a LRT (I assume that's what you are thinking when you say "transit'. I'm sure that you didn't mean to imply more buses). Perhaps some people have alternative ideas for economic development outside of the world of public transit that might produce more rapid payoffs in terms of economic growth and job creation. Outside of students, public transit is far from foremost in the vast majority's mind.
Trouble is, the attitude of the "vast majority" is one of the factors keeping London behind. According to The Economist:

"If you don’t provide good public transport or alternatives to the automobile that’s a real problem"
"Good transport systems are essential to the economic health of cities such as London (England), where the company sponsors a city-wide cycle hire scheme."


Investing in mass transit will help keep students - a demographic of 40,000 persons in this city - in the city after they graduate. I've said it many times, but London's poor transit system is one of the chief reasons there has been a mass exodus of young people from London in recent years. We attract bright students from other cities including Toronto, but many are turned off by the poor transit service and they don't want to start their careers here. That's talent we're missing out on.

There is a severe disconnect between what the up-and-comers of this city want and the people who keep getting elected to City Council. Councilor Dale Henderson is a prime example of this attitude. The city is becoming more appealing to retirees, but it is rapidly losing its appeal to young people.
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God help us. I like old people, but I don't want London to turn into Canada's version of Clearwater Beach, Florida.
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He requested a demolition permit for the Capital Theater and got a permit for the theater but not the entrance. He wanted the hole thing demolished for 50 extra parking spaces, which would just mean another gap in the street scape on Dundas.

"Shmuel Farhi said he needs parking, the Capitol facade is in poor condition and, in any case, it is not historically significant."
(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Now it is clear that though it was in poor condition underneath the sheet metal facade there was still a building of great value and historical significants.

"Farhi said any refusal may see him resort to moving his office tenants to buildings outside the core which has parking -- the city allows 5,500- square-foot office buildings outside downtown."
(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Instead of reaching a compromise with the city Farhi started making threats in front of the media.

"Farhi said he would save the facade if the city leased space in it"(Thu, October 26, 2006 By NORMAN DE BONO, FREE PRESS BUSINESS REPORTER)

Even though he purchased the building of his own free will he expects the city to continue to take responsibility for it much like the threats to close the Bell Building if the city or, Bell did not lease it.

"Downtown London's largest landowner says he'll let his buildings rot or raze them and divert $100 million in investments if the city doesn't help solve the core's parking problems."
(By JOE BELANGER, FREE PRESS CITY HALL REPORTER)

When he didn't get his demolition permit (for 50 spaces) he made the above threat and abandonment of buildings that threatens public safety or, demolition of buildings with out permits is illegal. Not to mention these threats are to get money out of the government......

This is not the only time he has pulled this crap, The Lithography building, and now the Bell Building are the same thing.
This is a case of the city interfering a little too much with private enterprise. When Farhi bought the former Capital Theater the building was in extremely poor condition and was not suitable for lease as is.
How you can claim that it was a building of "great value" is beyond me. What kind of value are you talking about because it certainly couldn't be monetary value? Do you happen to know how much he spent refurbishing the building? Over 1 million dollars, so really I don't know how a building requiring a million plus dollars in work in order to gain a stable long term tenant is of "great value"
Second you seem to imply that Farhi doesn't have a point about a lack of parking downtown. The main motivation for him purchasing the Capital Theater site is because he also owns the office building at 201 Queens which has a serious shortage of available parking for tenants. He has a similar problem with the Royal Bank tower on Richmond. The fact that the city blocked him from doing what he wanted with a property that he purchased is bullshit. This is why he than came back on the city saying if you want me to spend money refurbishing the Capital Theater you better lease the space.
Are you aware of the numerous existing parking lots in the core which Farhi has purchased in an attempt to solve his parking problems?
You seem to have a great deal of hate for Farhi and that hate is clearly blinding you from seeing the entire picture.
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This is a case of the city interfering a little too much with private enterprise. When Farhi bought the former Capital Theater the building was in extremely poor condition and was not suitable for lease as is.
How you can claim that it was a building of "great value" is beyond me. What kind of value are you talking about because it certainly couldn't be monetary value? Do you happen to know how much he spent refurbishing the building? Over 1 million dollars, so really I don't know how a building requiring a million plus dollars in work in order to gain a stable long term tenant is of "great value"
Second you seem to imply that Farhi doesn't have a point about a lack of parking downtown. The main motivation for him purchasing the Capital Theater site is because he also owns the office building at 201 Queens which has a serious shortage of available parking for tenants. He has a similar problem with the Royal Bank tower on Richmond. The fact that the city blocked him from doing what he wanted with a property that he purchased is bullshit. This is why he than came back on the city saying if you want me to spend money refurbishing the Capital Theater you better lease the space.
Are you aware of the numerous existing parking lots in the core which Farhi has purchased in an attempt to solve his parking problems?
You seem to have a great deal of hate for Farhi and that hate is clearly blinding you from seeing the entire picture.
This is an internet BB: not a place for facts and rational discussion!
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