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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 5:09 AM
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hey giallo are the people in Shanghai as friendly as Canadians?
Short answer: No.

The Shanghainese are very 'inner circle' people. If you're family, a friend or even a coworker, they will bend over backwards to help you. Building a strong relationship with someone is very important in Shanghai culture.
If you're a stranger, go die.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 5:44 AM
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Short answer: No.

The Shanghainese are very 'inner circle' people. If you're family, a friend or even a coworker, they will bend over backwards to help you. Building a strong relationship with someone is very important in Shanghai culture.
If you're a stranger, go die.
"Go die" being the Chinese equivalent of "fuck you" in English.

It was only during the "truly Communist" era of roughly the 1930s to the 1990s where there was a mindset of widespread acquiescence to the collective, though that was of course enforced. Being wary of outsiders has always been the norm in Chinese society. The best evidence for this is probably the fact that Confucius spent so much time banging on about being a good person!

My impression is that things are changing in Taiwan, though. Western humanist ideals as expressed in popular culture and media have been filtering in for decades, and have really started to take hold. For example, when I got there in 1994 you'd see dogs in 1-foot by 2-foot cages placed just outside the front door to act as watchdogs. They were never let out and they could barely turn around. They would spent their whole lives in these tiny cages. It was heartbreaking, but people you talked to would just throw up their hands. "None of my business."

These days apparently you don't see that much anymore, and there are lots of charitable organizations addressing animal concerns and the like.

Rambling a bit here. In any case, those videos were an eye-opener for me, never having been to Shanghai. It doesn't look half as chaotic as Taiwan.
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Is there a Newfoundland expression for "bring your own booze"? (something tells me it may go without saying, given how neighbourly it seems based on your writing about the place )
Some people may specifically state "BYOB" when it comes to hosting parties, but for the most part it's common knowledge that you need to bring your own. I'd think it'd be insane if I went to SHH's place and expected him to have beer for me....like I can't even compute that in my head "hey bro, beer me. Out of your personal belongings." ....nah, doesn't work for me.

The only exception appears to be around Christmas though, when my parents, and plenty of others like them, stock up on beer and spirits specifically for guests. Though that's probably different as it's more casual visiting than flat out partying.

Also once I have a full stocked bar I'll be more than happy to make drinks for guests
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It's normal here to bring your own - but we often trade/share as well. I'll give J. an Guinness for a whiskey/ginger ale, Ayreonaut'll give everyone a taste of whatever his latest brew is, jeedy1989'll use my mix and give me a drink, and on and on.

Though that's probably just because we're young and don't fully stock bars yet. Among my parents, it's normal for people to bring something when they come - say, a bottle of wine, or a flask of dark rum, but then they don't actually drink that particular one that night, they just serve everyone from the bar. Months or even years later, they'll break open what was brought, often with the same guests.
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Let me introduce you to Coaticook, Québec. It is home to what used to be the longest pedestrian bridge in the world (169 m, Guinness 1989).


Gorge de Coaticook, Québec by lake of the nations, on Flickr

47 m under, you can see the Coaticook river.


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This old factory (built in 1883) is being converted into a hotel.


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The city hall.


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Child street was recently totally revamped. I really like the result.


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Unfortunately, the last flood destroyed several buildings, including the oldest one in the city (1841).


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Here is the Pratt stream, which caused the flood.


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Main street.


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Gérin House. Built in 1851, it is said to be one of the nicest in the country.


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If you can read French...

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Calgarians walk in such an organized fashion.
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I was the rebel in the underpass by standing on the west side of the walkway
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I don't know that it's that much different in Shanghai than Canada is it? I've had people from other countries tell me that Canada is like that. I haven't been to Shanghai, so I can't really compare.

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Short answer: No.

The Shanghainese are very 'inner circle' people. If you're family, a friend or even a coworker, they will bend over backwards to help you. Building a strong relationship with someone is very important in Shanghai culture.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 5:27 PM
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Some of the nicer scenery in the Downtown for you boys.

Like most cities, St. John's has a lot of trendy shops in the Downtown - but we lack major chains down there so the trendy shops are dominant. Places like Model Citizens, Always in Vogue, JUNK (for men), and so on are simply where you have to go when shopping downtown. There are no franchise options.

One of the cutest is Rosie the Rebel, which specializes in clothes that flatter all common female body shapes. They have some men's fashions too, which I love. Anyhow, it's a lovely spot to people watch if you're into pale Newfoundlander girls with thick Irish accents:


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The above is probably the only cleavage-showing dress they sell.

The staff at Konfusion Night Club looks like they work at Rosie's, so that's also a good place to go.
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When we joined Canada in 1949, the Newfoundland Ranger Force (which policed rural areas) was absorbed into the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Although urban areas of the province (primarily St. John's, Corner Brook, and Labrador City-Wabush) remain under the jurisdiction of the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary, the RCMP's headquarters is in the capital city.

There's a public memorial growing there today in response to the killings in Moncton:


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Some nice curvy architecture in St John's

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Some of the nicer scenery in the Downtown for you boys.



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The above is probably the only cleavage-showing dress they sell.

The staff at Konfusion Night Club looks like they work at Rosie's, so that's also a good place to go.
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Let me introduce you to Coaticook, Québec. It is home to what used to be the longest pedestrian bridge in the world (169 m, Guinness 1989).
Also famed for its ice cream! I don't know how many of my kids' friends will say, when we offer them ice cream, "Est-ce que c'est de la Coaticook? C'est elle la meilleure!"

And we are several hundred km away.
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No pics of the surroundings of the Cutting/Gérin house? There are a couple other very nice houses there... (Norton House, among others.)

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Unfortunately, the last flood destroyed several buildings, including the oldest one in the city (1841).
The flood didn't "destroy" them. The flood damaged them a bit, and since we in the Eastern Townships are incredibly bulldozer-happy, we the people demolished them.

https://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.133133...5.62,,1,-13.79


FWIW, Coaticook is the exact halfway point of my Sherbrooke-Colebrook semi-commuting, if you happen to want more pics (of anything there), all I have to do is remember to bring my camera with me. I pass there weekly. (I like seeing the progress at the ex-Belding-Corticelli factory, and really hope that project turns out to be a financial success.)
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Also famed for its ice cream! I don't know how many of my kids' friends will say, when we offer them ice cream, "Est-ce que c'est de la Coaticook? C'est elle la meilleure!"

And we are several hundred km away.
Yes, this area is very very dairy-farming oriented.

(Beginning veterinarians in the Townships will often do a few years in Coaticook taking care of cows before they can finally manage to get a position at a Sherbrooke clinic with dogs and cats as their patients.)
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I don't know that it's that much different in Shanghai than Canada is it? I've had people from other countries tell me that Canada is like that. I haven't been to Shanghai, so I can't really compare.
I've been to HonG Kong 4 times and people there are just ok but you guys are f**** awesome.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 10:26 PM
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I don't know that it's that much different in Shanghai than Canada is it? I've had people from other countries tell me that Canada is like that. I haven't been to Shanghai, so I can't really compare.
There's really no comparison.

Canadians, while not as warm and welcoming to strangers as Americans are for instance, are still a nice bunch. People working in retail will generally smile at you, servers at restaurants will try to make you feel welcome etc.

Shanghai, you get none of that, and honestly, after you've experienced it for a while, it's not so bad. It's nice knowing that if someone smiles at you or engages you here that it's genuine** and not because it's mandated by their employer or to get a tip*.


*Yeah, I'm stretching it here, but hey, glass half full, right?
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