Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure

[Cyro]

Reported Today: RFP for traffic study on the Portage and Main intersection as well as bids from local companies to remove the barriers around the windy corner.

Get it done.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Cyro

Reported Today: RFP for traffic study on the Portage and Main intersection as well as bids from local companies to remove the barriers around the windy corner.

Get it done.

Yup because that's the most pressing issue for the majority of the citizens in Winnipeg. Special interests pushing for the opening while in realty no one cares.

[bomberjet]

RFP came out a week or two ago. Some posts a couple pages back on the various scenarios for traffic light cycles. Or it might be in the Winnipeg Construction thread.

[Cyro]

^ thx bj, just heard about it today, the construction thread has become a little mindnumbing of late missed the post

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Yup because that's the most pressing issue for the majority of the citizens in Winnipeg. Special interests pushing for the opening while in realty no one cares.

yeah, I don't think most Peggers give a damn.

But personally, I'm friggin tired of that windswept dead zone we call P&Main..
It's an eyesore..I equate it to how I feel about the Pegs numerous downtown surface parking lots..

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Cyro

^ thx bj, just heard about it today, the construction thread has become a little mindnumbing of late missed the post

The Portage and Main re-opening/ remain closed to surface ped. traffic debate warranted it's own thread, just saying.

[Cyro]

Good news when I logged in..

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=221028

[biguc]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Yup because that's the most pressing issue for the majority of the citizens in Winnipeg. Special interests pushing for the opening while in realty no one cares.

Just like Mexicans asking for better water treatment are a special interest group because everyone is used to drinking rancid tap water anyway.

[trueviking]

Waverley underpass is not a priority for the majority of winnipeggers either...and it's being pushed by a special interest group. Suburban drivers.

Yet here we are.

Actually deciding on portage and main is a priority. The decision either way has a hard legal deadline.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by biguc

Just like Mexicans asking for better water treatment are a special interest group because everyone is used to drinking rancid tap water anyway.

Exactly! Yeah look at Flint, Michigan where the residents were drinking filthy lake water, the state disconnected the pipe and started giving the pristine river water, but were they happy with that, oh no....... Proving you can't please everybody all the time!

[rrskylar]

So much for openness and transparency with a new mayor and council as we're finding out with the Waverley underpass proposal a private citizens (Klassen) critique of the project forced the administration to admit that, contrary to what had been told to councillors previously, there had not been a standard cost/benefit analysis done on the project. Furthermore how this project catapulted up on the list of the city's priority's is troubling. Or in other words, what south Winnipeg wants, south Winnipeg gets!

Katz= Bowman (more of the same)

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

So much for openness and transparency with a new mayor and council as we're finding out with the Waverley underpass proposal a private citizens (Klassen) critique of the project forced the administration to admit that, contrary to what had been told to councillors previously, there had not been a standard cost/benefit analysis done on the project. Furthermore how this project catapulted up on the list of the city's priority's is troubling. Or in other words, what south Winnipeg wants, south Winnipeg gets!

Katz= Bowman (more of the same)

Heaven forbid the largest tax source of the city has any pull lol
Heaven forbid the largest growing part of the city has any priority.

You should be glad this isn't the USA as we south enders would be building all our office building and business in our own neighbourhoods and let the downtown core crumble even more. ( of course I wouldn't want this. But I see it in many large American cities )

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

Heaven forbid the largest tax source of the city has any pull lol
Heaven forbid the largest growing part of the city has any priority.

You should be glad this isn't the USA as we south enders would be building all our office building and business in our own neighbourhoods and let the downtown core crumble even more. ( of course I wouldn't want this. But I see it in many large American cities )

South end of Winnipeg:

Kenaston underpass $60M

Kenaston flyover $60.7M

BRT downtown to South Winnipeg phase two $408M

BRT phase one $140M

proposed Waverley Underpass $155 M

Roughly $1 Billion so yeah South Winnipeg isn't doing too bad!

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

South end of Winnipeg:

Kenaston underpass $60M

Kenaston flyover $60.7M

BRT downtown to South Winnipeg phase two $408M

BRT phase one $140M

proposed Waverley Underpass $155 M

Roughly $1 Billion so yeah South Winnipeg isn't doing too bad!

And you can subtract $589 million off that as no underpass built and no phase two built.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

And you can subtract $589 million off that as no underpass built and no phase two built.

But the point is south Winnipeg is going to see that investment in tax dollars soon, something lost on you.

[mattpa]

i didnt know people in south winipeg bussed to osborne to take RT its more of a benifit for people in the north taking them to uni

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by mattpa

i didnt know people in south winipeg bussed to osborne to take RT its more of a benifit for people in the north taking them to uni

beat me to it. the biggest benefactors of SWRT will be north enders going to U of M

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

But the point is south Winnipeg is going to see that investment in tax dollars soon, something lost on you.

It's been how many years now since phase two was supposed to be built ? Only way it will is of the Feds dump cash into it. Otherwise it will just be another election prop.

And people in the south really don't stop at Jubillee to jump on the RT line. It's mainly university people from the other parts pf the city that use it. Let's not forget where it is destined to end. Oh that's right the University. Connecting it to the UofW. And I guess for the rest of the city to go watch the bombers lose.

[GarryEllice]

Originally Posted by mattpa

i didnt know people in south winipeg bussed to osborne to take RT its more of a benifit for people in the north taking them to uni

Why do people think the RT is only for the university? It serves both the university and the SW suburbs. There are significant numbers of passengers in both directions. In the morning there is a large flow of people commuting south to the university on the 160/161, *and* a large flow of people commuting north to downtown on the 137/162/163/181/183. The university is only one branch of the RT service.

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

You should be glad this isn't the USA as we south enders would be building all our office building and business in our own neighbourhoods and let the downtown core crumble even more. ( of course I wouldn't want this. But I see it in many large American cities )

Actually, in many US cities, the costs of road improvements that a development would spur (eg, new freeway exits) are charged to the developer, who then passes it on the the homeowners in the form of an increased initial housing cost. Therefore, the Waverley underpass and Kenaston flyover would have been paid for not out of city coffers but out of the pockets of the developer and ultimately the homeowner.