ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[(four 0 four)]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Looks like apartments I'll never afford.

Not with that attitude.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by (four 0 four)

Not with that attitude.

Should have said "looks like apartments my thrifty self would never pay for, even on a $200k/year salary". Awesome design though and hope to make friends living in there one day.

[Libertarian]

This still shows up on Dewberry's website

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

This still shows up on Dewberry's website

<sigh>

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

<sigh>

Yawn

[1lifealex]

Big tree being cut down on the northwest corner of West Peachtree and 17th any body know anything?

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

Yawn

Don't know anything about that the original tower planned here looked like, but the street level looked VERY nice.

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by MdtwnATL

Don't know anything about that the original tower planned here looked like, but the street level looked VERY nice.

I remember looking at the sign and being excited about the project. I was so naive about skyscrapers and how things worked. Years later, I'm no expert, but I know that I will always be disappointed when it come to dewberry.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

I remember looking at the sign and being excited about the project. I was so naive about skyscrapers and how things worked. Years later, I'm no expert, but I know that I will always be disappointed when it come to dewberry.

DewNOTHINBerry is a joke in this town. I have no idea what he is waiting for to develop his parcels, he must have a lot of capital. Frankly I wish he would just sell off and retire.

[Sbgt92]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I think the "pinwheel" is subtle and best represented in the lower-central left hand side of the building in the following photo. But Idk, maybe they're talking about the line of balconies that zags to the other side of the building or i'm missing something, too:

The effect is obvious in plan, but not sure that description is the best way to describe this tower. Hopefully three bedroom units will be included in the scope.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by bigstick

DewNOTHINBerry is a joke in this town. I have no idea what he is waiting for to develop his parcels, he must have a lot of capital. Frankly I wish he would just sell off and retire.

I think Dewberry is taking a very smart approach with the 10th street property and most of his other investments.

[Hokiehaven]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I think Dewberry is taking a very smart approach with the 10th street property and most of his other investments.

I agree, it's a very wise decision. He'll inevitably be the only game in town once most of it is developed around him and values will go even higher as he controls the market.

I'm fine with the 10th street one being later as that is clearly the most primo spot in arguably the whole city, wish they'd do something temp in the meantime, but some of the others probably need to move sooner hopefully.

[scania]

Originally Posted by Hokiehaven

I'm fine with the 10th street one being later as that is clearly the most primo spot in arguably the whole city, wish they'd do something temp in the meantime, but some of the others probably need to move sooner hopefully.

I hear these sentiments about it being the most prime real estate in the city...but as time moves on, personally I don't see it being the case. Sure it's a great property on Atlanta's signature street. But...The Federeal Reserve isn't going anywhere, the Magarette Mitchell House isn't going anywhere either. So let's say it's going to be residential, unless it's some great retail, I really don't see it being a location that's going to woo people. Now maybe Hotel/Commercial Offices would have better demand. I just think this forum praises this property a little more than we should. For it to have that type of demand, a lot would have to change around 10th St. I said this several years ago that the only place in Midtown that would command that type of demand for a super tall would have to be right on or closer to 14th and Peachtree, people bashed me for saying this statement.

[briantech]

Originally Posted by scania

I hear these sentiments about it being the most prime real estate in the city...but as time moves on, personally I don't see it being the case. Sure it's a great property on Atlanta's signature street. But...The Federeal Reserve isn't going anywhere, the Magarette Mitchell House isn't going anywhere either. So let's say it's going to be residential, unless it's some great retail, I really don't see it being a location that's going to woo people. Now maybe Hotel/Commercial Offices would have better demand. I just think this forum praises this property a little more than we should. For it to have that type of demand, a lot would have to change around 10th St. I said this several years ago that the only place in Midtown that would command that type of demand for a super tall would have to be right on or closer to 14th and Peachtree, people bashed me for saying this statement.

Yeah. From a street perspective, the lot that has bulldogs and a parking lot is a lot more lively / better location for just about anything.

[MdtwnATL]

Originally Posted by briantech

Yeah. From a street perspective, the lot that has bulldogs and a parking lot is a lot more lively / better location for just about anything.

Hmmm...I dunno. I'd agree only if the bottom of Loews / 1075 Peachtree and 1010 Midtown never filled in. Once all of that fills in (and it will once Colony Square is complete or well underway), you'll have Crescent Ave, all of 12th & Midtown and Colony Square to your right, Piedmont Park immediately behind you and hopefully an enhanced "Midtown Mile" to your immediate left (possibly a built out 999 Peachtree?). This just seems like the most central location of the area of Atlanta already calling itself "The Heart of it All."

I imagine that something along the lines of Water Tower Place in Chicago with a major office tower above it would eventually do well there.

[arctk2014]

You've got to be kidding me....




https://whatnowatlanta.com/will-a-gas-station-replace-the-engineers-bookstore-building/

Developer wants to redevelop 86-year-old property into EZ Market Midtown.
A historic icon on Marietta Street could soon be replaced by a gas station and convenience store.

The Marietta Street corridor between West Midtown and Downtown Atlanta is arguably the segment with the most room for growth. Several historic buildings line the street, many which sit empty today.

One of those buildings formerly housed the Engineer's Bookstore, which shuttered on May 13 after over 20 years at the location. The structure has stood there since 1930.

On July 12, the new owner of the property, Omair Pasha, sent an email to NPU E announcing his plans to redevelop the property into a gas station and convenience store, EZ Market Midtown.

Max Mandelis, the selling agent for the previous owner, told What Now Atlanta (WNA) that Pasha revealed his plans to her that Tuesday night. These plans include demolishing the existing building, constructing a new one against the south-facing wall of the Hotel Roxy, and adding gas pumps to the lot.

This stands in contrast to what Pasha told WNA in a phone conversation that morning, when he said he did not plan to raze the building. The developer has not responded for comment since then.

The property is currently zoned I-1 (light industrial), making the use as a gas station and convenience store possible without rezoning or the issuance of a special use permit. In addition, Pasha submitted an application for a Beer & Wine License, and as a result, he must appear before NPU E leadership in a public meeting August 2.

Not everyone is happy with the plans. The property is a part of the Means Street National Register Historic District. Additionally, surrounding it are residences, an adult drug and alcohol rehabilitation center and house of worship at the Salvation Army, and a prominent university campus. It's possible that the alcohol license could be denied based on the property's proximity to those institutions.

"As many of you know, the Means Street area has a history with the fossil fuel industry. Fortunately for us, that was in the 1880’s. To even propose the idea of inserting a gas station at this location today goes far beyond a quantum leap backwards," Bill Gould, Co-Founder of the Marietta Street Artery Association told neighbors in an email the morning of July 13.

Chris Faussemagne, the Land Use Co-Chair of the Marietta Street Artery Association, called the plans to raze the building to build a new gas station "unfortunate" while the rest of the area finds "new uses for existing buildings and transitions to alternative forms of transportation," referring to the current PATH project under construction nearby.

Pasha has developed several convenience stores and gas stations around town, including the EZ Market on Northside Drive.

"Please know that we have made significant investments in the Midtown/Downtown Atlanta market and are fully cognizant of the urbanisation (sic) and therefore, our sites are developed with careful consideration and complete awareness that our business will be a part of a community. We have built similar developments in the HomePark and Loring Heights communities which have been highly successful, all while being mindful," Pasha said in the July 12 email to NPU E.

The situation is a classic example of another property falling victim to Atlanta's faulty zoning codes. As part of an overall code rewrite, the city is currently reviewing proposed changes to the industrial zoning classification to restrict the designation to truly industrial uses.

Subsequently, properties such as the Engineer's Bookstore and the neighboring Salvation Army would be rezoned to a designation more reflective of their true uses. It's highly unlikely that the re-write process would be finished soon, but it if were to happen, a gas station would either not be permitted at all or would need a special permit.

[Street Advocate]

Any thoughts on if the EST will see mixed-use condos this cycle? Seems like the area people want to buy and experience mixed-use, but projects have mostly been apartments or $600,000+ townhomes in the area.

[ATL_J]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Any thoughts on if the EST will see mixed-use condos this cycle? Seems like the area people want to buy and experience mixed-use, but projects have mostly been apartments or $600,000+ townhomes in the area.

There are the proposed condos on Memorial near the BeltLine that would be fairly accessible per reports. The problem is with land prices, unless you are doing something large-scale, the condos are going to be targeting higher incomes. And doing something large scale can be difficult in established, single-family neighborhoods and zoning limitations. Not to mention finding financing can be difficult. In addition, easily developable sites are drying up.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

You've got to be kidding me....




https://whatnowatlanta.com/will-a-gas-station-replace-the-engineers-bookstore-building/

The lot consolidation here was discussed a few pages back and it was discovered that it included the old Engineer's Bookstore...and I hoped at that time that this building would be preserved. Why can't this dumbass put a convenience store in the historic building? Or does it have to be in as cheap a building as possible to work? I hope something is done quickly to save this building...there are enough empty/parking lots around that area that could hold his gas station.

Atlanta, please don't sit back and let this happen anymore.

[terilili]

Originally Posted by Hokiehaven

I agree, it's a very wise decision. He'll inevitably be the only game in town once most of it is developed around him and values will go even higher as he controls the market.

I'm fine with the 10th street one being later as that is clearly the most primo spot in arguably the whole city, wish they'd do something temp in the meantime, but some of the others probably need to move sooner hopefully.

I get that he may be hoarding his properties so he can get a better price later, but that 1) assumes the market won't crash again, which it likely will, and 2) means that the midtown residents are the ones who suffer. I am so sick of walking around midtown and seeing his stupid empty lots with the giant signs. With all the developing going on, I'm sure we all would love to see those lots in the mix.

And, just to point out the other elephant in the room, but the last we heard from him was his plan months ago to add floors to the Campanille. It doesn't seem like he's made any movement on that project, not that it's one worth pursuing...