YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 97

LeftCoaster · #**1921** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 12:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

How about having YVR drop their "Airport Improvement Fee". One would think if YVR was so concerned about attracting new traffic, they'd drop it.

Most people dont even know it still exists since they built it into the ticket fare. I bet it doesnt even detract 0.5% of traffic from YVR.

mr.x · #**1922** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 12:39 AM**

^ precisely....$5.00 for local flights, $10.00 for domestic, and $15.00 for international. Miniscule.

raskal · #**1923** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 2:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

^ precisely....$5.00 for local flights, $10.00 for domestic, and $15.00 for international. Miniscule.

$5.00 for flights to destinations within B.C. or the Yukon.
$15.00 for flights to all other destinations.

SpongeG · #**1924** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 3:40 AM**

as long as it lets the airport keep expanding and do well i say keep it

whatnext · #**1925** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

as long as it lets the airport keep expanding and do well i say keep it

Or question why they need to keep expanding. The terminal is hardly overtaxed with flights. Its become a self-perpetuating construction project.

As to it being only $15, surely every cent counts in our noble fight for competitiveness against Seattle.

trofirhen · #**1926** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

I've posted a new topic on this YVR stranglehold issue in the Canada forum, fire away:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=174826

Your postings are ones I had already read, but you have more skill with this forum, and you found the right place to put them. They created quite a chain reaction. It's getting people thinking, and shaking things up a bit (although there are a couple of status quo-loving easterners who defend things just the way they are, but that's to be expected)

Anyway, thanks a lot! Hope this keeps the momentum alive.

Anybody who things Vancouver isn't getting its fair share of overseas routes should look at this link.

twoNeurons · #**1927** Posted **Oct 22, 2009, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sir.Humphrey.Appleby

Well, hubbing only makes sense if you can't fill your planes, or if you can switch to a more efficient (bigger) planes by combining markets.

The route through Vancouver route adds about 9% length plus the transfer.

The future of the airline industry is interesting... in the future, I wonder who's idealogy will win out... the Boeing strategy of "medium-sized efficient planes with more direct flights aka 787"
or the Airbus one:
"Massive hub-spoke planes that cattle people from hub to hub to transfer them to regional planes, aka A380 + A320/737"

You can probably tell my bias/preference.

Bigger Hubs or More destinations... which is the most sustainable?

SpongeG · #**1928** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 3:51 AM**

in airline news...

Quote:

Report: JAL will need $3.3 billion

Oct 23, 2009
A government task force working on a turnaround plan for Japan Airlines International Co. Ltd. will reportedly seek ¥300 billion ($3.3 billion) in new capital for the troubled airline from public and private sources.

The amount, which the Nikkei business daily reported Wednesday, is double the ¥150 billion previously mentioned in JAL restructuring discussions. The airline also seeks to erase nearly half of its ¥600 billion in debt by convincing a skeptical group of lenders to waive loans or trade debt for equity.

Source: thedeal.com

http://www.eturbonews.com/12399/report-jal-will-need-33-billion

Hourglass · #**1929** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 6:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Or question why they need to keep expanding. The terminal is hardly overtaxed with flights. Its become a self-perpetuating construction project.

As to it being only $15, surely every cent counts in our noble fight for competitiveness against Seattle.

Might I point out that you're being inconsistent? On one hand, you state that Air Canada is deserving of special protection as the home side because it is one of the biggest employers in the Lower Mainland. On the other hand, you question why YVR, another one of the biggest employers in the Lower Mainland, should continue to expand for the future (providing needed construction jobs). Eliminating the AIF won't make them more competitive. It'll result in higher landing fees for airlines, which would also result in LESS competitiveness vs Seattle...

You honestly think YVR has gold-plated expansion plans (Toronto *cough cough*)?

trofirhen · #**1930** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 7:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

You honestly think YVR has gold-plated expansion plans (Toronto *cough cough*)?

Glory to The Great City on The Lake ........
.............................. (and guess who's paying for it, and in what way...)

excel · #**1931** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 8:42 AM**

Anyone know what is being built beside UPS on the northlands? There are some pile drivers and diggers just east of the UPS cargo facility.

Gordon · #**1932** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 1:17 PM**

I Think YVR has the the lowest landing fees of the major Canadian airports.

twoNeurons · #**1933** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 2:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

I've posted a new topic on this YVR stranglehold issue in the Canada forum, fire away:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=174826

Wonder what would happen if you posted this in SSC's Toronto forum. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1504

It would be interesting to see the viewpoints from that forum.

Delirium · #**1934** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 4:20 PM**

new art was recently installed at YVR. it was designed by the same artist who did the "device to root out evil" that was removed from coal harbour.

The circular form of “Arriving Home” suggests movement and mimics the rhythms of traveling. Both departure and arrival are crystallized in this metallic spiral by renown American artist Dennis Oppenheim. The sculpture stands as a greeting to travellers as they come and go.

Constructed out of steel and lexan acrylic, the spiralling iridescent multi-coloured form looks alive and as though it is about to spin and move through space.

photo by Vancouver Biennale on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/vancouverbiennale/sets/72157622639416892/

wrenegade · #**1935** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 4:52 PM**

I think that looks great. "The Device to Root out Evil" was my favourite from the last biennale, it's really a shame it's sitting in the Ramsey area of Calgary, probably mostly unnoticed.

mr.x · #**1936** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Wonder what would happen if you posted this in SSC's Toronto forum. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1504

It would be interesting to see the viewpoints from that forum.

I posted it in the Canada forum of SSC a few weeks ago, it was deleted by a Toronto mod.

Loving the new art at YVR!

Hed Kandi · #**1937** Posted **Oct 23, 2009, 6:01 PM**

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red-paladin · #**1938** Posted **Oct 24, 2009, 7:59 AM**

That is awesome!!!

I wasn't a fan of the device to root out evil since I'm religious and I wasn't sure what the message was supposed to be. But then I guess art is supposed to be thought provoking.

Johnny Aussie · #**1939** Posted **Oct 26, 2009, 9:17 PM**

This was posted in the milehighcustoms.com aviation forum yesterday.

"China Southern is going to start CAN-YVR in summer 2010."

Apparently the source of this rumour is:

"Local newspaper regarding Foreign Minister Braid's recent visit to China.

YVR-CAN supposed to start in July 2009 but was delayed due to downturn in economy."

Does anybody have any other information on this rumour?

Mr.Airport · #**1940** Posted **Oct 27, 2009, 6:58 AM**

Well I can't confirm if the rumor is true, but one of the other reasons why China Southern delayed YVR-CAN was because the 787 was delayed.
Now that the 787 is delayed even more, I'm surprised they're still interested in coming to Vancouver.
I guess they'll have to use another fleet.