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Old Posted Aug 9, 2013, 1:06 AM
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This is what the view would actually look like, using very approximate boxes (but at the proper height in the proper locations) for the two buildings:

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This is what the view would actually look like, using very approximate boxes (but at the proper height in the proper locations) for the two buildings:

I disagree...being 100 feet taller than Suncor, the difference will be more substantial than that.
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I disagree...being 100 feet taller than Suncor, the difference will be more substantial than that.
Yeah, 100ft is definitely more substantial than what was shown on the previous page. The North-South distance between Suncor and Brookfield Place won't even be much, maybe half a block, as Suncor has a big setback from 5th ave to the north, whereas pretty much all of BP's setback is on the southern section of the lot.
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Really? From that view, Brookfield Place looks closer to the photographer than Suncor does. If that's correct though, dang. :/
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That does it 225 6th must have the height raised to 900'!!
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Looking great! I can't wait to see Telus and Brookfield go up! They are really going to improve Calgary's skyline drastically. Exciting times ahead.
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Ottawa's Centertown community design plan;



Not spectacular like Calgary, Vancouver or Toronto but still decent.
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Love that Grid of Ottawa! Wish more cities would be designed like that!
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One thing that sort of bothers me with Ottawa and completely unrelated to future skylines...why didnt Ottawa build a grand avenue lined up to Parliament/Peace Tower?

Something like how University Avenue leads up to Queens Park in Toronto only on a grander scale for that of a national capital. Now I realize University Ave. in Toronto is sort of blah but that has more do with how it got lined with institutional buildings than anything else. The potential was there.
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One thing that sort of bothers me with Ottawa and completely unrelated to future skylines...why didnt Ottawa build a grand avenue lined up to Parliament/Peace Tower?

Something like how University Avenue leads up to Queens Park in Toronto only on a grander scale for that of a national capital. Now I realize University Ave. in Toronto is sort of blah but that has more do with how it got lined with institutional buildings than anything else. The potential was there.
I remember Jean Chretien proposing it, but the chorus of Ottawa naysayers shot him down (Town vs Crown strikes again in the nation's capital).
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Really? Jean Chretien? Thats pretty recent... where would it have been? Is there any room?

I always thought Wellington was that grand avenue, but now that you mention it, I agree its a lost opportunity.
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I remember Jean Chretien proposing it, but the chorus of Ottawa naysayers shot him down (Town vs Crown strikes again in the nation's capital).
Mmm... and what was suggested? Bulldozing all the buildings which line Metcalfe? brilliant
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Mmm... and what was suggested? Bulldozing all the buildings which line Metcalfe? brilliant
As I recall the proposal, which would go back to the late 1990s, a number of the historic Metcalfe buildings would have been moved, starting with the two NCC owned ones between Sparks and Wellington. I assume others would have been demolished and that new construction would have been set back to create room for the grand boulevard. I imagine it would have been a work lasting many decades, but I don't think they ever got to that level of detail.

In any event, I recall the idea being bounced around for a while but there was no uptake, and considerable opposition, on the Ottawa side. It's not that kind of city.
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As I recall the proposal, which would go back to the late 1990s, a number of the historic Metcalfe buildings would have been moved, starting with the two NCC owned ones between Sparks and Wellington. I assume others would have been demolished and that new construction would have been set back to create room for the grand boulevard. I imagine it would have been a work lasting many decades, but I don't think they ever got to that level of detail.

In any event, I recall the idea being bounced around for a while but there was no uptake, and considerable opposition, on the Ottawa side. It's not that kind of city.
That would have been a tribute to Kafka.
"It's not that kind of city"... maybe in China you'll find this kind of city.
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Something like how University Avenue leads up to Queens Park in Toronto only on a grander scale for that of a national capital. Now I realize University Ave. in Toronto is sort of blah but that has more do with how it got lined with institutional buildings than anything else. The potential was there.


It is lined with the most and some of the most interesting Institutional Buildings in country. We've just gotten desensitized to it.
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One thing that sort of bothers me with Ottawa and completely unrelated to future skylines...why didnt Ottawa build a grand avenue lined up to Parliament/Peace Tower?

Something like how University Avenue leads up to Queens Park in Toronto only on a grander scale for that of a national capital. Now I realize University Ave. in Toronto is sort of blah but that has more do with how it got lined with institutional buildings than anything else. The potential was there.
I've always lamented this as well
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I like that clump by the highway. That could provide a nice link to the bit going up at Dow's Lake.
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They should have built the grand Avenue in 1905-1912 along with the Victoria Museum (aka Museum of Nature). Today the historic buildings along Metcalfe are much more valuable than a potential grand boulevard (not to mention they would also have to tear down a few million square feet of office space in the CBD).

As for the grid, they did a good job with it until the post war era when they moved to a spaghetti street system.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2013, 8:20 AM
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at 810 ft it will be even more drastic than the fist render shows. a full 100 ft is a substantial amount. and considering they are so close to each other, well you will see what i mean when built.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2013, 5:59 PM
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I personally have a problem with moving historic buildings or façadism. Everything about the building (that is original or has been there for the majority of its history) is historic; the bricks, windows, detailing, interior, structure, foundations and location.

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