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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 9:27 PM
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Birthday gift idea for Truenorth (hope he has a large enough back yard…)

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I'm a weapons and space guy. So I want a giant rocket or missile instead.

Incidentally I spent the day at the RCAF Symposium and was really happy to see that Space and AI were the leading topics. We're finally getting away from outdated thinking that the only thing that matters is how many jets are on the ramp. I'd trade cuts to the F-35 purchase for more space and AI capabilities. And not started out loud, I think more than a few of the panelists and attendees might have agreed.
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 11:50 PM
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Et tu, Doug?

Ontario Premier seems to be fingerpointing immigrants for GTA synagogue shootings.

How much you wanna bet he walks this back?

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lol, what’s to walk back? it’s the truth. And Justin wants to bring more Palestinians here. How do you think that’s gonna go over?
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Old Posted May 31, 2024, 10:46 AM
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Birthday gift idea for Truenorth (hope he has a large enough back yard…)

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That's the one parked at a museum in Campbellford. I wonder if Jet Aircraft Museum in London might be interested, they have acquired a few of the other aircraft that used to be there. They have several engines for the T33 that they acquired from the RCAF several years ago for scrap prices. It might be that they did look at this and determined it not to be flyable again so took a pass on it. They got the Voodoo from Greenwood, knowing it wouldn't fly again, but knew it would be an interesting one to display.

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Old Posted May 31, 2024, 11:59 AM
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I always loved the look of the Voodoo. Reminded me of an orca on the prowl. They used to fly out of CFB Chatham, NB.
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Canada’s Universities Are a Pipeline for Chinese Military Technology

THROUGH NAÏVETÉ and mindless belief in the universal benefits of academic exchange, some of Canada’s leading universities have contributed to the militarization of the Far East.

From the start of academic exchanges with the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in the early 1970s, the government of Canada has watched and largely approved of Chinese students focusing almost exclusively on science and technology faculties at Canadian universities. Meanwhile, Canadians going to study in China have engrossed themselves in Chinese language and culture and Maoism. For most of the past fifty years, Canadian universities and authorities were satisfied with this exchange. They saw giving Chinese students the benefits of Canadian knowledge and experience in science and technology as a gift toward the economic and industrial development of China.

Around the year 2000, however, Beijing and its People’s Liberation Army (PLA) realized that here was an opportunity to grab or develop technology for their program of rapid military modernization that had begun a decade before. The PLA calls the program “picking flowers in foreign lands to make honey in China,” and it is not at all as innocent as it sounds. It involves PLA engineers and scientists from the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT) and six other armed-forces universities disguising their military links and presenting themselves as simple scholars in order to engage in postgraduate research at Canadian universities.

What they are after is any science or technology that has military applications, and they have been very successful. It is only in the past five years or so that Western governments and their intelligence agencies have cottoned on to the extent of the flowers-to-honey program. And Canada is not the only target. A paper published in 2018 by the International Cyber Policy Centre of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute ranks Canada third after the United States and the United Kingdom in the list of countries targeted by PLA military scientists. The list of the top ten rounds out with Australia, Germany, Sweden, Singapore, the Netherlands, Japan, and France. It was compiled by seeking out the true identities of the disguised PLA scientists who published peer-reviewed research documents from 2006 to 2017. In that latter year, eighty-four Chinese researchers at Canadian universities were identified as undercover PLA scientists. In 2016, the number was 106, and in 2015, it was ninety-five. The number had been growing steadily since 2008.

Canada also loomed large in the list of the top ten target international universities. The University of Waterloo was fourth after universities in Singapore, Australia, and the UK. Placed ninth and tenth on the list were the University of Toronto and McGill University. That is not the whole story. A more recent study by the US strategic intelligence company Strider Technologies Inc., provided to the Globe and Mail and published in January 2023, shows that fifty Canadian universities have been successfully targeted by the PLA campaign. Like the Australian report, Strider also found the University of Waterloo top of the list of Canadian collaborators, witting or not. Also on the Strider list of NUDT partners are the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, the University of Victoria, McMaster University, Concordia University, and the University of Calgary.
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The Strider investigation found that, all told, in the previous five years, academics at ten of Canada’s leading universities had published 240 joint papers with Chinese military scientists from the NUDT. Among the NUDT researchers were experts in missile performance and guidance systems, mobile robotics, and automated surveillance. The topics included quantum cryptography, photonics, and space science.

Unlike in the US, where authorities do not hesitate to take action when evidence of security breaches are found, there have been few attempts in Canada to bring legal action against intellectual property espionage by China. One exception has been the firing of Qiu Xiangguo and her husband, Cheng Keding, from Canada’s high-security infectious diseases laboratory, the National Microbiology Laboratory, in Winnipeg in January 2021. The couple were alleged to have collaborated with known Chinese military researchers to study and conduct experiments on deadly pathogens. It is claimed that, in March 2019, they sent samples of the Ebola and Henipah viruses to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology. The couple lost their security clearance two months later, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police started an investigation.

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The US expanded its 2015 blacklisting of NUDT associates in 2020, when it started denying academic visas to people it believed might steal intellectual property with military applications. A Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) report dated December 21, 2021, and seen by a Globe and Mail reporter, says that since the crackdown, PRC scholarship students coming to the US, Canada, and other Western target countries like the UK and Australia try to hide their military links and disguise the sensitivity of their research. They go to foreign universities to do research on disciplines that don’t ring security alarm bells but which are equally useful for military applications. The newspaper quoted the CSIS document, which was shared with Canada’s Five Eyes intelligence partners: “For example, one student majored in remote sensing in the PRC. In Canada, the same student’s major is forestry, which utilizes similar technology to remote sensing.”
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https://thewalrus.ca/canadas-univers...ry-technology/

Lots more in the article.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2024, 11:14 AM
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Canada a back door for forced labour goods imported into the US.

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CBC has some restored footage and interviews from D Day.

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Old Posted Jun 13, 2024, 11:45 PM
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Exactly what I've been saying. Now the business community is starting to see the risk of underspendimg on defence.

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Exactly what I've been saying. Now the business community is starting to see the risk of underspendimg on defence.
I've been skeptical of this and also the AUKUS exclusion but have heard business rumblings about this as well. Of course their solution is cut entitlements not industrial subsidies and certainly not an increase in coroporate taxes to pay for it so at the end of the day it's a long list of asks from corporate Canada but you are right it's gotten to the point of more widespread embarrasment.
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Interesting that two ministers (Blair and Joly) have suggested in recent days that upcoming plans (Arctic? Submarines?) will put Canada on target to meet the NATO 2% commitment. Of course that doesn't mean it's not years in the future, especially if they're talking about possible subs. Setting things up to counter criticism in the election campaign?
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Interesting that two ministers (Blair and Joly) have suggested in recent days that upcoming plans (Arctic? Submarines?) will put Canada on target to meet the NATO 2% commitment. Of course that doesn't mean it's not years in the future, especially if they're talking about possible subs. Setting things up to counter criticism in the election campaign?
Some of us on here (including myself) think meeting the 2% is important. Most of the voters don't care. If true, I don't think the election is the driver.

Perhaps it driven by maintaining our relationship with the Americans and Europeans.

Making promises that the conservatives will find difficult to keep.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2024, 1:40 PM
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Interesting that two ministers (Blair and Joly) have suggested in recent days that upcoming plans (Arctic? Submarines?) will put Canada on target to meet the NATO 2% commitment.
Blair can sing that song as much as he wants but it still won't be true. Even if the LPC wins the next election and progresses forward on high fantasy projects, there is no way the defence budget will grow by 50% within any mandate lifecycle. Nothing will happen on subs until CSC and JSF are transitioning into ISS so we'll just be replacing one big procurement surge with another.

And again, these are all fantasy projections as no electorate will support CCB or OAS cuts for Canadian sailors to travel under the ice. No one.

I can't speak about Joly, but IMHO most people with any real insight tune out Blair as soon as he starts talking about anything serious.
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Some of us on here (including myself) think meeting the 2% is important. Most of the voters don't care. If true, I don't think the election is the driver.

Perhaps it driven by maintaining our relationship with the Americans and Europeans.

Making promises that the conservatives will find difficult to keep.
Important but in terms of other priorities where does it fit? If things in Canada are as dire as most of this and the Federal Politics claim defence spending isn't going to help and the tax increaess/lack of tax cuts that would be required or further deficit spending would only make those problems worse.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2024, 4:42 PM
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What is unique about the present circumstance is that industry is finally starting to wake up to the fact that their relations and access are contingent on Canada being a contributing ally. The public may not be all that concerned. But the public will never fully understand the issue until jobs are lost or the economy stagnates. The question now is how the government (not just this one) reacts to what is slowly becoming an economic issue.
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What is unique about the present circumstance is that industry is finally starting to wake up to the fact that their relations and access are contingent on Canada being a contributing ally. The public may not be all that concerned. But the public will never fully understand the issue until jobs are lost or the economy stagnates. The question now is how the government (not just this one) reacts to what is slowly becoming an economic issue.
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What is unique about the present circumstance is that industry is finally starting to wake up to the fact that their relations and access are contingent on Canada being a contributing ally. The public may not be all that concerned. But the public will never fully understand the issue until jobs are lost or the economy stagnates. The question now is how the government (not just this one) reacts to what is slowly becoming an economic issue.
The interesting addendum to your point is that Trump guy might just be the guy asking , Bluntly and openly "whats your number?". Folks in Ottawa better have an answer for that question and its going to be spicy at the upcoming Washington Meetings.Virtue signalling will probably be immediately challenged and rightly so.
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What is unique about the present circumstance is that industry is finally starting to wake up to the fact that their relations and access are contingent on Canada being a contributing ally. The public may not be all that concerned. But the public will never fully understand the issue until jobs are lost or the economy stagnates. The question now is how the government (not just this one) reacts to what is slowly becoming an economic issue.
This is the same "industry" that has either quashed Canadian business growth, taken it over, or treated the country as a mere host to branch plants and offices.

I have no illusions that all this hasn't been handled well by our governance.

But for business leaders to speak out now seems just a bit funny to me.

That said, we have not placed enough importance on "defense" spending for decades, and it's about to bite us in the ass.
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Blair can sing that song as much as he wants but it still won't be true. Even if the LPC wins the next election and progresses forward on high fantasy projects, there is no way the defence budget will grow by 50% within any mandate lifecycle. Nothing will happen on subs until CSC and JSF are transitioning into ISS so we'll just be replacing one big procurement surge with another.

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That would take us well past the 2% target, no?
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That would take us well past the 2% target, no?
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According to NATO figures, Canada was estimated to be spending 1.33 per cent of GDP on its military budget in 2023.
So a 50% increase of 1.33% GDP is roughly 2% GDP.
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My company is not in the defence industry but we had massive disruption due to the US sanctioning that Chinese company 9 star. One of our product manufacturers were forced to rebuild their entire warehouse and distribution network as a result which caused massive delays for product deliveries.
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