[Halifax] Nova Centre | 65-58-58 m | 16-15-14 fl | Completed

[planarchy]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

Suburban residential construction would be more of a drain than urban development costs. But I don't see the connection. I assume that you are going along with Phil Pacey's arguments?

See Someone's comments above. I'm not agreeing with Pacey. Nice work making assumptions.

[q12]

source: CTV


source: CTV


source: CTV


source: CTV


source: CTV


source: CTV

Here are some more images I captured off the CTV Atlantic Evening News at 6. (Bell Aliant TV PVR)

[someone123]

Updated rendering from http://www.novacentre.ca



Apparently they also plant to construct some kind of 40 storey building on top of Scotia Square.

[cormiermax]

My jaw dropped when I saw that one, this doesn't get built I'm leaving Halifax.

[q12]

Originally Posted by someone123

Updated rendering from http://www.novacentre.ca



Apparently they also plant to construct some kind of 40 storey building on top of Scotia Square.

Wow that rendering is nice!

Can we get the photo at the top of this page updated with this one?

[Keith P.]

Kee-rist, that looks incredible. Of course, that perspective would require Neptune Theatre to be demolished to see it that way, but still... ;-)

Only bad thing I see is the loading entrance looks to be on Argyle at the corner. Not the best use of a potentially great corner.

[Dmajackson]

Very nice.

Can we also get the tower reflected in the glass and the Scotia Square make-over?

One thing that's nice about this rendering is the vehicles are realistic. Most renderings have ferrari's and porsches out front and not normal cars that peopel in Halifax can afford.

[planarchy]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Kee-rist, that looks incredible. Of course, that perspective would require Neptune Theatre to be demolished to see it that way, but still... ;-)

Only bad thing I see is the loading entrance looks to be on Argyle at the corner. Not the best use of a potentially great corner.

Soooo....this looks 1000000x better. Especially the treatment of the internal street (market street?). This looks great.

But as Keith P. said - the Argyle Street front is not good. Not only is a loading bay/parking entrance there, but the entrance area seems really bizarre. Would be nice to see some of the qualities of the internal street along argyle as well. Right now, the building is too inward looking. A step in the right direction, but still a bit awkward looking as far as its relation to its neighbours, especially along Argyle.

[Phalanx]

So very much better, yes. Lets get this built already. O.o

[fenwick16]

The floor plans indicate that the truck loading would be off Market Street. I think that view is showing the car entrance to the underground parking and the hotel and convention centre lobby from Argyle Street. In the floor plans 17,800 square feet of internal truck loading is shown off Market Street which is at the very top level of the convention centre - page 11/36 - https://conventioncentreinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/WTCC-II-Bid-Summary.pdf .

Another interesting fact is that on page 8/36 there is an entrance from the parkade ramp to the Multi-function Hall. I assume for car exhibits.

[Empire]

The hotel from 4 floors up still needs work, it has too much of a slab look. The office building looks a lot like Summit place. Argyle needs more of a presence/grand entrance.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by planarchy

Soooo....this looks 1000000x better. Especially the treatment of the internal street (market street?). This looks great.

I think that you mean Grafton Street which is the middle pedway over the Ballroom. Market Street is closest to the Citadel.

[PoscStudent]

Big improvement over the original design, lets see if the feds will actually give you any money to build it now.

[Jonovision]

I did not attend the session this afternoon but did attend on he held last Friday. His new designs look much better and they show an evolution in the design. Joe did say that he kept hearing people say they wanted a more modern and bold design so that is what he is leaning towards now. However, there will still be lots of room for public input on the design of the exterior of the buildings once funding is in place. Even if they start in January they have a minimum of 8 months of digging before any concrete is poured.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by someone123

Updated rendering from http://www.novacentre.ca



Apparently they also plant to construct some kind of 40 storey building on top of Scotia Square.

I just noticed that in the lower right hand corner. That would be the 40 storey observation tower that I keep hoping for, which would do away with the need of view-planes from the Citadel Hill.

I really like what they are doing with the arches over Grafton Street.

[halifaxboyns]

In the immortal acting style of William Shatner, all I could say with the new design was:

Holy...shit! It's (long pause) and incredible (arm jestures) redo! It's so impressive...KAHHHNNN!!

Sorry... Couldn't help it.

But still, pretty damn impressive. We must work to get this built. Full stop.

[Dartboy]

Right now I am ignoring the one report from the trust folks who had an expert speaking about how the CC is a bad idea. I am sure if you paid the same amount of money you could fly in another expert with a completely opposite opinion.

Anyway Ramia is being reported now as saying the land could sit vacant if He doesnt get his way. secondly he is also saying that Plans B and C without the convention center would obviously be much smaller but would make more money and that the current proposal makes the least amount of money.

Frankly I am calling hogwash on that. I dont like the way he has started to change his angle in the media. When he first came out he was playing it smart. Now he is not.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Dartboy

Anyway Ramia is being reported now as saying the land could sit vacant if He doesnt get his way. secondly he is also saying that Plans B and C without the convention center would obviously be much smaller but would make more money and that the current proposal makes the least amount of money.

Frankly I am calling hogwash on that. I dont like the way he has started to change his angle in the media. When he first came out he was playing it smart. Now he is not.

I read the allnovascotia.com story and it could simply be that the author of the story was making it sound more dramatic by calling it a warning. In any case, we have all seen this happen many times over the past several years - lots sit vacant for years. He has stated that he expects the convention centre to help him sell the hotel and office portions of the complex which sounds reasonable. If the convention centre doesn't proceed then plans B or C will be built at a rate that many projects are built in the Halifax area and currently worldwide - slowly. I think he is simply being honest and open with the public.

[beyeas]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Kee-rist, that looks incredible. Of course, that perspective would require Neptune Theatre to be demolished to see it that way, but still... ;-)

Only bad thing I see is the loading entrance looks to be on Argyle at the corner. Not the best use of a potentially great corner.

Yeah that was the one negative that jumped out at me. I was amazed by how much better the development as a whole looks, and although I know that there does have to be at least one part of the building that is just big loading bays, I wish it didn't have to be on such a prominent corner!! The rest is a HUGE improvement though.

[Haliguy]

Originally Posted by Dartboy

Right now I am ignoring the one report from the trust folks who had an expert speaking about how the CC is a bad idea. I am sure if you paid the same amount of money you could fly in another expert with a completely opposite opinion.

Anyway Ramia is being reported now as saying the land could sit vacant if He doesnt get his way. secondly he is also saying that Plans B and C without the convention center would obviously be much smaller but would make more money and that the current proposal makes the least amount of money.

Frankly I am calling hogwash on that. I dont like the way he has started to change his angle in the media. When he first came out he was playing it smart. Now he is not.

I think he is only speaking the truth. It is a good possiblity it could sit there like that for years.