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Old Posted Nov 10, 2017, 11:58 PM
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Just looked at the Burnaby developments page. The Admiral Pub in tge Heights will be redeveloped into a five story on Hastings and a three story on Albert. Does anyone know about the developer 4308 Holdings?
That's too bad.

Too much is happening on that stretch of Hastings.

One design element which I disagree with its the focus on arterial routes for housing.

Arterials should be for commerce, the parallel streets directly behind the arterials should be densified with more housing.

This saves business from being displaced and land values sky rocketing because of the extra residential component being allowed.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2017, 2:10 AM
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One design element which I disagree with its the focus on arterial routes for housing.

Arterials should be for commerce, the parallel streets directly behind the arterials should be densified with more housing.
I agree with you about housing on arterials, although I don't mind it as much if it's retail with housing above it, which this one is: "The purpose of constructing a five storey mixed-use development fronting Hastings Street and a three storey ground oriented development fronting Albert Street"
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2017, 3:32 AM
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What you've been waiting for...
from VancouverMarket.ca


I also do not see a department store in there...unless it's in the Phase 4 podium (but there's a road between it and the mall)

Plan Emerges for Metrotown Sears Site


Main roads are consistent with the Metrotown Plan, but missing a road between Phases 3 and 4:
The City report (pdf)

From the report (images not included)

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The Phase I site, as shown in Figure #4, is bound by Kingsway to the north, Nelson Avenue to the east, a new dedicated McMurray Avenue to the west and a new statutory right-of-way road "Metro Way" to the south. The site comprises a singular podium element that frames the adjacent streets, by way of two high volume commercial levels and one level of amenity, including a potential commercial gym facility available to residents. Above the commercial and amenity podium are three residential high-rise buildings ranging in height of between 35 - 65 storeys, with the signature and tallest tower situated at the corner of Nelson Avenue and Kingsway. Although there is a consistent thematic design of the buildings within the development along Kingsway, including the curved facades and graphic elements along the balcony glass, the signature tower is elevated in its materials and design in order to bookend the Metro Downtown Neighbourhood with the signature tower proposed at the corner of Kingsway and McKay within the Station Square development.

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Phase II located from McKercher Avenue east, as shown in Figure #8, is a continuation of the theme established in Phase I. The smallest of the four phases, Phase II proposes a narrower, but deeper podium element that frames Kingsway and McKercher, by way of two high volume commercial levels and one level of amenity. Above the commercial and amenity podium is a single residential high-rise building ranging in height of between 40-55 storeys. This is the second tallest tower on the site, emphasizing the overall curvature of the tower heights.

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Phase III located between McMurray Avenue and McKercher Avenue, as shown in Figure #9, will be a continuation of the theme established in Phases I and II. Phase III continues the proposed two high volume commercial levels and one level of amenity, with the opportunity for a key anchor retailer to be take both levels of retail. Above the commercial and amenity podium are proposed a two residential high-rise building ranging in height of between 20-45 storeys. These two towers, along with the third tower within Phase I on the east side of McMurray Avenue, represent the bottom of the U in the skyline across the site, but are just as expressive as the other towers proposed for the site. One of the key elements of all buildings on the site, in addition to the curvature along Kingsway is the orientation and curvature of the tower tops.

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Phase IV, as shown on Figure #11, is south of Kingsway internal to the site, and encompasses the existing Sears Metrotown and Toys R Us building. Given existing lease terms for Sears Canada and Toys R Us and an existing operating agreement Ivanhoe Cambridge owner of Metropolis at Metrotown, Phase IV was identified as the last phase of development. However, should lease and operating agreement terms change, Phase IV could be developed at any time. The intended form of development is for a larger anchor retail user on the ground and second level and a single high-rise commercial tower ranging in height between 20 and 30 storeys. Above the retail component is an extensive podium landscaped area which will provide the necessary outdoor amenity area to serve a head office or major hotel user of the tower.

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The Master Plan and Phase I plans have been prepared by IBI Group to ensure that the Phase I building design is seamlessly integrated with the Master Plan Vision. As noted, in the vision component of the plan, and as noted earlier in this report, a thematic design concept is being pursued drawing from the Kingsway ridge as the headwaters for several watersheds in Burnaby. This has been represented in the buildings architecture where balconies undulate mimicking flowing water along the Kingsway frontage. An additional design element to emphasise concept water and topography is the application of a ceramic frit super graphic on to the balcony glass. At their top, the buildings a highly articulated mechanical penthouse form is proposed mimicking the coastal mountains.
There's a lot more, included how many storeys for each of the buildings in Phase 1 and proposed number / type of suites.
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I hope that the second phased tower is built to the max 55 floors proposed.

Would be nice to have at last two taller towers built out of this entire project.

Also, would be nice for the commercial tower to be a little taller.
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Thanks for the info.

Podiums being 2 tall commercial, storeys plus amenity level (on the roof, no doubt) is a bit disappointing
given that the Beresford frontages on the other side of Metrotown are generally taller.

Hotel is an interesting option for the commercial tower.
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I counted about 63 storeys on the tallest tower on the corner of Nelson and Kingsway. Should every floor be 3 meters, that makes out 189 meters, including the weird crown at the top which is about 8 floors tall, adding 24 meters. The podium, which is about 8 floors tall, would be another 24 meters. This tower will be about 230 meters tall, which would make it the tallest building in the province. Here are some other buildings around the world that are a similar height to put into place how tall this building will be.

This is the Woolworth Building in Lower Manhattan. It was built over 105 years ago, which shows how far behind Vancouver is in terms of reaching height. It was completed in 1912 and reaches 57 storeys at 240 meters (slightly higher than this Sears building).



This is the ICE Condo tower in Toronto. It's 234 meters tall and was completed in 2015 at 67 storeys. It looks a lot like the Trump tower in Vancouver except less twisty.



Looking forward to seeing how these towers will pan out. If this is 230 meters tall and only on the corner we can only imagine what heights we will reach when the mall is demolished and the land in the middle frees up. Vancouver needs to get its stuff together.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2017, 11:55 PM
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At Sussex & Beresford - by Thind Properties.

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Fourteen-storey tower with non-market rentals coming to Metrotown
Development proposal also includes a 47-storey, mixed-used tower
Tereza Verenca / Burnaby Now
November 10, 2017 09:36 AM

A new, 14-storey apartment building will be added to the Metrotown skyline.

But unlike other towers that have popped up in the neighbourhood recently, this one will consist of only non-market rentals.

New Vista Society wants to build 125 non-market units at 6525, 6559 and 6585 Sussex Avenue, a site currently occupied by three low-rise rentals totaling 64 units.

The non-profit organization, which has provided affordable housing to seniors and families in Burnaby since 1945, currently owns and operates 540 independent living apartments and a 236-bed licensed residential care facility.

The development proposal also includes a 47-storey, mixed-use tower facing Beresford Street.

The tower, located on the north portion of the site, would have retail space at the ground level, 10 storeys of office-commercial space, and residential units above, according to a staff report. There would also be townhomes along Sussex Avenue.

The project is a partnership between New Vista, B.C. Housing and Thind Properties Ltd. The site is owned by Thind, but as part of the deal, the City of Burnaby will fork over $5.6 million from its density bonus housing fund (money developers pay the city for increased density) to buy the land for the social housing tower. It will then lease the land to B.C. Housing at a nominal rate for 60 years, with B.C. Housing then leasing it back to New Vista. The mortgage is estimated to cost $35 million.
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http://burnabynow.com/news/fourteen-...own-1.23090426
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Great news, that area needs this with all those walkups being torn down.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2017, 2:26 AM
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At Sussex & Beresford - by Thind Properties.
Is that the same one that was already confirmed to be non-market? I seem to remember there being a pair of buildings with the one on Beresford being market condos and the shorter one behind it being a BC Housing building.
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Sounds like Metroplace is not going to remain as the tallest of the row. Too bad that they aren't going taller than that.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2017, 4:19 AM
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Did a search and urbancanadian posted this Oct 2016 and subsequent posts named Thind.

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There's a new proposal for a high-rise along Beresford Street in the Metrotown area. This one is a block east of Klazu at the SW corner of Sussex & Beresford. Some highlights:

- The development will include a commercial and retail podium, which extends the successful concept we've seen along Beresford. It's actually not even required this far east, but the developer is proposing it anyway.
- A mid-rise non-market rental building will be built in behind the tower, on Sussex Avenue. It is to be owned by BC Housing.
- There are three buildings that would be knocked down (large, small, large).
- No idea who the developer is yet (I hate that).

Address is 6525-6585 Sussex Avenue. More info here (page 59):
https://burnaby.civicweb.net/filepro...?preview=16818

To tie this in with the discussion on the previous page, this looks to be the first new development to include non-market housing in the Metrotown area. If low-income residents are inevitably going to be displaced, there needs to be at least a 1:1 replacement ratio for all the affordable housing that would otherwise be lost. At first glance, this appears to be a step in the right direction.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2017, 6:19 AM
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Sounds like Metroplace is not going to remain as the tallest of the row. Too bad that they aren't going taller than that.
And you're all going to be dwarfed by the Sears Tower#1 (if they do keep that 65 storey height) on the other side of mall.

Or Concord MetroTown Tower #1 (since Sears is going out of business and is effectively out of the equation.

(come to think of it, Station Square tower #5 is also going to be taller if I remember correctly, at 52 storeys(?))
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^I'm sure he was referring to just the Beresford row. Sovereign is already the tallest building in Metrotown. Also the Sears and Concord towers are one in the same as Concord owns the Sears site.
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^I'm sure he was referring to just the Beresford row. Sovereign is already the tallest building in Metrotown. Also the Sears and Concord towers are one in the same as Concord owns the Sears site.
Yes, I know that.

I referred to it/them as the Sears Tower(s) by virtue of the site, before I realized that that's probably not going to be the proper way of referring to them going forward given that Sears is a non-factor.
'Concord Metrotown Towers' just sounds a bit too generic given that they have other towers in the area, but I suppose until they actually come up with a name for the project and the towers, it will have to do..
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Simpsons-Sears Tower(s) have a nice ring to it ...


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This is the ICE Condo tower in Toronto. It's 234 meters tall and was completed in 2015 at 67 storeys. It looks a lot like the Trump tower in Vancouver except less twisty.

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The ICE tower in Toronto is quite a landmark building. I stayed across the street from it when I visited TO and I couldnt stop admiring it. It actually looked taller than it is.
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All the skyscraper lovers are waiting for the day when a new building would trump the Shangri-la, and the day has finally come. Burnaby is doing us proud.
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http://burnabynow.com/news/fourteen-...own-1.23090426
Thanks for the news. This one will shut the mouths of those bad-mouthing the City for allowing the run-down walk-ups to be demolished.
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