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TechTalkGuy · #**1821** Posted **Jun 25, 2012, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by nyc_alex

There's a flagship Apple Store right around the corner already! Unless they are very short on room I don't see one opening here.

The three floor space in a glass enclosure could have a spiral stairway similar to the design of Upper West Side !!

Besides, this building needs to attract a store of exceptional quality.

speedyturbo11 · #**1822** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 10:10 AM**

Does not look like adequate parking will be provided for this tower.......

lakegz · #**1823** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 12:00 PM**

Parking?....... Parking? This is a 400 meter skyscraper being built in the most prime real estate in the country and you wanna talk about Parking. We talkin 'bout Parking here!!!

NYguy · #**1824** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 1:03 PM**

^ LOL, there will be parking, as well as mandatory bike racks on the lower levels.

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Originally Posted by nyc_alex

There's a flagship Apple Store right around the corner already! Unless they are very short on room I don't see one opening here.

The only similarity with the Apple store would be the glass cube on the Park Avenue side. All of the retail, from Park Ave to 57th will be connected through the lower level.

JACKinBeantown · #**1825** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 1:37 PM**

Has this already been posted?

www.elitedaily.com

JACKinBeantown · #**1826** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 1:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Thanks for posting this, NYguy. This appears to be a massing model of the retail space. Wouldn't it be great it they actually designed the retail space to complement the old buildings, as they did with the Scholastic Building on Broadway and Prince?

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/SOH/Pict0336a.jpg

Crawford · #**1827** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by speedyturbo11

Does not look like adequate parking will be provided for this tower.......

The vast majority of Manhattan towers have no parking.

In most cases, parking isn't even allowed in new towers.

NYguy · #**1828** Posted **Jun 26, 2012, 11:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

Has this already been posted?

www.elitedaily.com

Yeah, that was our first look at the model, as well as a view somewhat of the base (darker shaded).

A look at limited parking and bike space in the lower levels...

In a couple of years, this tower will be added to the view of this pan...

José Ignacio FU

FMIII · #**1829** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 7:19 AM**

At first glance, this Tower has everything for itself. It is tall and slender. However I can't help but think that given its location and height, its design is terrible. This tower totally ignore its environment and looks out of place. For once I wish it would be way shorter, no more than 1000 feet or at least they should redesign the last part of the top to erase the box effect.

When one think that Tower Verre (which has a much more interesting design) has been scaled down... Where are the Nimbies on this one ? For once they could be helpful.

TechTalkGuy · #**1830** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 8:08 AM**

What? Are you serious?
This is the most beautiful tower to grace the NY skyline in years !!

JSsocal · #**1831** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 8:14 AM**

^^you're joking.. all I am saying is if you gave any other big name architect a crack at this building then they'd design something better, or at least more interesting then this monotonous twig that robert venturi has come up with.

599GTO · #**1832** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 8:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by fish

What? Are you serious?
This is the most beautiful tower to grace the NY skyline in years !!

No, it's not. Not even close.

I look forward to the building going up though.

Ed007Toronto · #**1833** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 4:15 PM**

Can't wait to see it start to rise.

ThatOneGuy · #**1834** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 8:30 PM**

I will never understand why everybody hates boxes so much...

eseninobrandon · #**1835** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 9:06 PM**

can't wait till this thing reaches street level

NYguy · #**1836** Posted **Jun 27, 2012, 11:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by FMIII

This tower totally ignore its environment and looks out of place. For once I wish it would be way shorter, no more than 1000 feet or at least they should redesign the last part of the top to erase the box effect.

I don't know what you mean by "out of place". If it's a reference to height, it may help you to know that's the point of it. As far as design, it's no more out of place than any other skyscraper in the City. You can either like it or hate it, but it can't really be called out of place.

Oura · #**1837** Posted **Jun 28, 2012, 8:13 AM**

It looks out of place because it's out of scale compared to the nearby buildings, because it's on a midblock site, because it doesn't fill the L-shaped plot, and because it will leave the blank walls of all the nearby buildings visible like a Kaufman special.

Add to that, that they could have kept the facades of the townhouses instead of destroying them.

Hamilton · #**1838** Posted **Jun 28, 2012, 12:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Oura

It looks out of place because it's out of scale compared to the nearby buildings, because it's on a midblock site, because it doesn't fill the L-shaped plot, and because it will leave the blank walls of all the nearby buildings visible like a Kaufman special.

Add to that, that they could have kept the facades of the townhouses instead of destroying them.

...and that just about sums up how Macklowe is a Philistine.

JACKinBeantown · #**1839** Posted **Jun 28, 2012, 5:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

I will never understand why everybody hates boxes so much...

Because there's nothing special about them. Yes, form follows function... but the form of a box looks boring. A box is the most economical use of space, but I'd rather look at a Van Gogh painting than the box it came in.

Roadcruiser1 · #**1840** Posted **Jun 28, 2012, 5:44 PM**

Yeah and the Twin Towers were two big boxes. Yet I don't see people complaining about them.