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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 3:50 PM
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I know Thunder Bay.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 4:45 PM
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You guys are the exception. Lucky for you guys. All I'm saying, is to just use a little common sense when you drop a post into a forum that is not familiar with your kneck of the woods. Capiche?

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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 5:33 PM
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This forum is very familiar with Thunder Bay. I am known as "that guy from Thunder Bay who never shuts up about Thunder Bay". (Ask in the Skybar or Canada sections.) You've just never met me before.

But if it will make you happy, I will add a ", Canada" to it.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 7:03 PM
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Seriously Orlando? I knew where it was but thats not the point. Why are you raining on someone else's parade for no reason? Maybe he writes only thunder bay to weed out the idiots from everyone else
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Not to keep it going, but I know Thunder Bay, too. Thanks for your pics, vid.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2009, 11:09 PM
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That's great that you few know where Thunder Bay is. However, it is not well known outside of Canada, and is obscure enough for a lot us not to know! So, please stop trying to jump on me for asking for a little common sense when posting! It's like me trying to drop a post into a Europe forum, and my post saying something related to Portland and whatever the topic is in the Europe forum! Portland where? Portland USA?...Portland, Maine?...Portland, Oregon? That's all.

No offense intended, Vid. I was a little blunt earlier. Thanks for the pics.

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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 1:15 AM
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Wow some of you guys are pretty mean. Now back on topic: Thunder Bay transit news.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 2:10 AM
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real news

I know this isn't Salt Lake Transit news, but it is related.
Utah County commuter rail progresses.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705315207/Utah-County-commuter-line-progressing.html
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2009, 6:46 AM
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I know this isn't Salt Lake Transit news, but it is related.
Utah County commuter rail progresses.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705315207/Utah-County-commuter-line-progressing.html
That's great to see the progression, but I'm still bummed it'll take an estimated 4 more years. The North line was finished in about 2 or 3 wasn't it?
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2009, 3:16 AM
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Another sighting, number 211:


Taken by Roadmaker, another local photographer.

Slowly but surely they're trickling out. His photography is more abstract than mine but I promise I'll take a full body shot next time I see one.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2009, 4:29 PM
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Where in Canada is Thunder Bay? I sure wish you put the province in there as well, and maybe a google earth shot and a link from google maps and a mileage chart from every major US City. That way I wouldn't have to actually take all the time required to type the words "Thunder Bay" into my google search bar.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2009, 5:33 PM
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Thunder Bay, Ontario to Salt Lake City, Utah

The interstate system, as you can see, kinda works against this trip. It's like driving on a grid, you have to go out of your way and backtrack. Takes 25 hours but you could probably pull it off in 20 hours if you drove "properly".

I'm not particularly fond of referring to my city as part of Ontario. There is history behind it but explaining it is off topic.
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Wait, Canada? Where is Canada? Never heard of it.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2009, 12:10 AM
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It's a small, socialist backwater east of Alaska. Likes to make fun of itself; eats donuts.
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With all of the talk from some of the forumers leaving the salt lake threads because of contention, I feel like I might have contributed to that on this thread. Sorry for being such a bonehead the other day. I hope they stay.
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Work begins on FrontRunner station in Orem

http://heraldextra.com/news/local/central/orem/article_e3c6979a-2005-5491-9c3f-d887aeb94c43.html

OREM -- FrontRunner commuter rail is coming to Utah County as soon as 2013, and in Orem, work has already begun on a train station and intermodal transportation hub just west of Utah Valley University's campus.

Gerry Carpenter, a Utah Transit Authority spokesman, said crews began working on footings for track lines to the future Orem station six weeks ago. The site that will provide connections from FrontRunner trains to the future Provo-Orem bus rapid transit system and regular UTA buses is located between 1000 South and 800 South on the west side of Interstate 15, east of Geneva Road.

While some cities along the future FrontRunner South line will have only covered shelters above the track platforms, Orem has received $1 million in federal funding to construct an actual station building, said Paul Goodrich, Orem's transportation engineer. It may not cover the cost of the entire facility, but UTA has told the city the agency would like to have some security and maintenance offices at the Orem station, and may be willing to partner in the design and construction costs.

Goodrich said the Orem station would be similar to the Ogden station in size and layout with a sandwich shop, seating, rest rooms and a drinking fountain.

"We haven't actually designed the building yet," he said, adding that it may be six months to a year before the city finalizes the station's design.

At the Orem City Council's June 23 work session, Goodrich presented the council with an opportunity to add design enhancements to the Orem station above and beyond the basic station provided by UTA.

The so-called betterments, such as architectural and materials upgrades, are paid for by the city but add a "branding" of historical reference and character that help advertise the city and its offerings to riders, he said.

Goodrich and city staff will present some station design options such as a unique look for the canopies, columns, lighting and other features such as historical photos or local art, to the council at an upcoming meeting for the council's consideration.

"The City Council wanted some kind of historic feeling, such as architecture already in Orem," like the roof lines of historic schools, the old city hall and other local icons, he said.

Councilwoman Margaret Black said the council was shown examples of what other cities have done on the FrontRunner North line between Salt Lake City and Ogden.

Farmington, one of the more expensive examples at between $200,000 and $300,000, partnered with Lagoon amusement park to add a custom canopy that mimics the shape of a roller coaster and other features, Carpenter said. Other cities have added minimal decorative features for around $100,000.

"The idea was to do some betterment, something nice but not too expensive," Black said.

One city staff suggestion is to put brick on the station's posts and add distinct green light fixtures similar to Orem's newer street lights. Theme ideas include the city's agricultural heritage and the fact that Orem was named after a railroad man, Walter C. Orem.

"I, myself, would like a modest betterment, that gives an indication of our city's uniqueness," she said.

Despite UTA figures in May showing that FrontRunner North trains are averaging 30 percent lower ridership than officials had projected when the line opened a year ago, according to the Associated Press, Black believes Utah County should move forward with its FrontRunner South project.

"I think it's very important to continue. It's the wave of the future as our freeway becomes more congested," she said, particularly with the Utah County I-15 widening project just a few years out.

FrontRunner South will also be key for Utah Valley University students who live in the Salt Lake Valley or points north of Orem to commute to school without having to use the freeway, Black said.

"It will be wonderful to have the connectivity to where someone gets on the train in Salt Lake, and, as we develop the Provo-Orem Bus Rapid Transit from our FrontRunner station, go to Orem, stop at the mall, and go down to Provo," she said.

Overall, the $850 million FrontRunner South line, running 45 miles from Salt Lake City to Provo, is currently ahead of its initial 2015 completion date schedule, Carpenter said. Since approximately half the FrontRunner South line is in Utah County, county taxpayers will be footing half the total bill, or about $420 million.

In November of 2006, Utah County voters approved a sales tax increase to fund accelerated work on FrontRunner South and other transportation projects in Utah Valley.

Along with Orem, FrontRunner South stations also are planned for Lehi, American Fork, Vineyard and Provo. UTA estimates that ridership on the south line will be 7,900 passengers on average weekdays and increase up to 13,500 by 2030, Carpenter said.

"With I-15 construction, it may be above projections," he said.
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Transit out your ways seems to moving right along. There seems to be no major obstacles and cooperation from various jurisdictions. Here in East, there is too much finger pointing and who is going to pay for what. Projects start then stop and do this throughout their respective duration hence over budget and completion delays.
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This is like the era of freeway building .... only for transit. I think most cities realize that "now is the time" to get their line. Because just like highways, I'll bet one day rail will become harder to build b/c of money, stricter EIS, etc.
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This is like the era of freeway building .... only for transit. I think most cities realize that "now is the time" to get their line. Because just like highways, I'll bet one day rail will become harder to build b/c of money, stricter EIS, etc.
There is a big push by local govt's, states, transit operators, etc. to actually make it easier to get rail lines, street cars, etc built. Particularly any sort of environmental work and other federal govt. processes that make it much more expensive and time consuming to built rail lines. I agree though, it seems like everyone wants their rail lines, which is a huge paradigm shift from where we were just 50-60 years ago, when most rail lines were being removed from cities.
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If I could add, there is a surge of population returning to the inner cities. Could possibly be a reason for the paradigm shift.
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