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damn that would have been awesome to have. such a nice development that never was. damn, we got screwed over. haha.
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Is "reincarnation" possible?

I love the design of the I.M. Pei tower-that-never-was. Maybe, just maybe, it could be built further west along Georgia, around Georgia and Pender ......
It's too fine a design to trash. (Why it got trashed in the first place, I'll never know). Cost, I suspect. What other reason might there be?
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2014, 4:02 PM
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Here's a view of I.M. Pei's rotunda sections of Eaton's, much of Cesar Pelli's design was influenced by Pei's. I doubt, however, that we would have altered the I.M. Pei building to the extent we ruined Pelli's creation.

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Old Posted Nov 1, 2014, 4:13 PM
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The Place Ville Marie was even written at the time as being considered the boldest and most daring architectural statement in North America.
If you don't believe me, go do some searching. here's a Wikipedia link if interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_Ville_Marie#History

Anyway, I think what you are saying is that we CAN reach architecturally high standards, if we really want to. We have an example you've us of a building, (and a city) that does not settle for mediocrity, and I thank you for this post

(Montreal images) just FYInterest:


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http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/moder...gs-6755755.jpg

Which all begs the question: could Vancouver skimp out a little less, do it with a little more class (and yes, this very much includes the Pacific Centre as it it smack-dab downtown)?
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Yea I highly doubt your rant will end there

All your posts are basically the same. Vancouver lacks "class" and "elegance" etc. we get it!!!
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I guess we simple weren't a large enough market to appreciate the works of I.M. Pei back in the late 60s. Montreal, at the time, was the epicentre of Canada, both economically and culturally, so far more welcoming and appreciative of world-class architecture.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2014, 4:38 PM
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I guess we simple weren't a large enough market to appreciate the works of I.M. Pei back in the late 60s. Montreal, at the time, was the epicentre of Canada, both economically and culturally, so far more welcoming and appreciative of world-class architecture.
Yes, I think that's precisely the reason, thanks!
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Yea I highly doubt your rant will end there

All your posts are basically the same. Vancouver lacks "class" and "elegance" etc. we get it!!!
Please excuse me, but may I take you up on that a little bit?
It's true I've often criticised something for lacking class or elegance, but there is also a lot about Vancouver that is classy and elegant, given its relative medium, and only recently-achieved size, and its lack of being an historical coprporate base, as connect2source pointed out.

The Georgia Canyon gives it "big city" feel and though the Hotel Vancouver has been criticised, it, Cathedral Place, and Christ Church Cathedral enhance the "Manhattanish" feeling somehow.* (however mini-scale that may be).
Soon there will be a lower Howe street "canyon, starting with 980, that "European-scale" block of buildings opposite Robson Square, past the Pacific Centre and TD Tower, then across Georgia past the Four Seasons, The Georgia tower, down past what will become the "Echange" (Credit Suisse tower) and the elegant buildings opposite, on down.
OK, The MNP Tower and Marine building. I think the consensus is unanimous there. And West Hastings itself has some fine buildings around it, (Jameson House, CIBC, Terminal City Tower, and the old RB building further down) and is another piece of street that lends that "established big city" feeling to Vancouver.
Burrard, from Georgia down to Hastings, is impressive and rather more spread out, giving perhaps an almost small-scale Dallas / Houstonish feeling, but a great, and ceremonial, stretch of downtown street nevertheless, with buildings spiffy enough for any major city, (focussing, I guess, on Park Place and Bentall 5).
Wall Centre is tall, sleek, and beautiful.
The buildings on Howe opposite to what will be The Exchange on Howe invite - perhaps - a similar treatment. The one right opposite is older, but classy looking, and understated (polished stone and elegant arches on the large front windows, plus a rather nicely designed roof section).
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I see enormous potential (as does everyone here) in Vancouver, and I just hope we don't blow it any further like, IMO, the old Birks Building. (imagine if that had been given the similar treatment as the Credit Suisse "Exchange"?)

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Well said trofirhen!

Vancouver House is also a 'game changer' to some extent. Our tastes will grow more sophisticated as we get more examples of highly evolved and well designed buildings, it's a gradual process and buildings like The Mark and the new Roger's Arena towers will serve to remind the public of 'what not to do'.

We generally learn what we do like but witnessing buildings we don't like.
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I'm still not getting the point of the double skin section on the corner.
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Same here.
I just hope it lights up inside or something...
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Just read that IM Pei had the Eatons clad in concrete as well.
Well, I think someone blew it when they threw over the I.M Pei design for the other one. The city lost out badly on that one.
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I'm still not getting the point of the double skin section on the corner.
It's to make the building looks disjointed. Part of UDP requirements to get approval.
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Why do they do every piece of work in tiny pieces and never seem to complete it at once? They installed some of those Howe side stone panels months ago, but nothing since then. Isn't the constant October rain going to be bad for some of the uncovered materials?

There has been very little exterior work happening since beginning of September and it can't be due to the weather.
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