City Murder Rates

[Jonesy55]

I'm pretty sure London isn't yet at 100 for 2018 so far anyway?

This source has 70 as of May 22.

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/london-m...far-this-year/

Carrying on at that rate we would have around 175 by the end of the year, which with a population of almost exactly 9m would be 1.94 per 100,000. That's certainly higher than in recent years and would probably be the highest in the UK but I guess its lower than Philadelphia.

[ilcapo]

What are the hotspots for murder in these cities? Such as Montreal, Toronto, London etc.

[Doady]

Originally Posted by aquablue

London is huge. Its murder RATE is far lower than these smaller cities like Philly and Chicago.

When I've been in London on vacation, the streets in the West End always felt pretty safe. I'd feel safer there compared to Downtown Chicago, Downtown DC, etc. There are far fewer guns on the street.

I'm not convinced the murder rate is the proper way to compare cities. We shouldn't give cities as pass simply because they are bigger. Fact is, there are more murders happening in London than a lot of other cities. No doubt it has a greater number of dangerous neighbourhoods than Toronto and other smaller cities.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by ilcapo

What are the hotspots for murder in these cities? Such as Montreal, Toronto, London etc.

Not Toronto and certainly not Montreal.

[softee]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Not Toronto and certainly not Montreal.

I think they meant what neighbourhoods in those cities have the highest murder rates.

In Toronto homicides seem to be pretty distributed all across the 6 boroughs of the city, but there are certain areas with higher concentrations of public housing and gang activity such as Regent Park, Moss Park, Alexandra Park and Parkdale in Old Toronto; Malvern, Orton Park, Tuxedo Court and Kingston/Galloway in Scarborough; Jane-Finch, Jane-Wilson (Jane corridor) Lawrence Heights ("The Jungle") and Flemingdon Park in North York; Dawes Road in East York; Weston, Mount Dennis and Oakwood-Vaughan in York; and Rexdale and Dixon Road in Etobicoke.

[softee]

Toronto is at 36 after a man was shot and killed while walking along the sidewalk on Bay Street in the city's upscale Yorkville neighbourhood last night.

[nito]

Originally Posted by Doady

I'm not convinced the murder rate is the proper way to compare cities. We shouldn't give cities as pass simply because they are bigger. Fact is, there are more murders happening in London than a lot of other cities. No doubt it has a greater number of dangerous neighbourhoods than Toronto and other smaller cities.

As noted by Jonesy55, London stood at 70 murders with a population of just shy of 9mn as of the 22nd May. That is certainly up on previous years, although the April figure is down year-on-year, so February and March could have been outliers. I can’t see a conversation revolving around giving certain cities a pass.

Philadelphia with a population of 1.6mn had 116 murders as of the 24th May. Toronto has a third of the population, but only half the rate, so is higher when factoring in population.

Originally Posted by ilcapo

What are the hotspots for murder in these cities? Such as Montreal, Toronto, London etc.

The Metropolitan Police provide a detailed crime data dashboard (up to the end of April 2018): https://public.tableau.com/shared/8B...play_count=yes

Breakdown by London Borough
[6] Hackney
[5] Haringey
[4] Camden + Waltham Forest
[3] Barking & Dagenham, Barnet, Greenwich, Hammersmith & Fulham, Newham + Redbridge
[2] Croydon, Ealing, Islington, Lambeth, Southwark + Wandsworth
[1] Bromley, Enfield, Hounslow, Kensington & Chelsea, Kingston upon Thames, Lewisham, Merton, Richmond upon Thames, Sutton, Tower Hamlets + Westminster
[0] Bexley, Brent, Havering, Harrow + Hillingdon

[LMich]

Detroit through May 29 year-over-year after a particularly violent holiday weekened:

2016: 116
2017: 107
2018: 98

A recent Detroit News article also states that at least in Detroit, the weather appears to make little difference when you split the year into summer and winter months.

[Acajack]

You are right. Oops.

Originally Posted by softee

I think they meant

what neighbourhoods in those cities have the highest murder rates.

In Toronto homicides seem to be pretty distributed all across the 6 boroughs of the city, but there are certain areas with higher concentrations of public housing and gang activity such as Regent Park, Moss Park, Alexandra Park and Parkdale in Old Toronto; Malvern, Orton Park, Tuxedo Court and Kingston/Galloway in Scarborough; Jane-Finch, Jane-Wilson (Jane corridor) Lawrence Heights ("The Jungle") and Flemingdon Park in North York; Dawes Road in East York; Weston, Mount Dennis and Oakwood-Vaughan in York; and Rexdale and Dixon Road in Etobicoke.

[Jonesy55]

Originally Posted by Doady

I'm not convinced the murder rate is the proper way to compare cities. We shouldn't give cities as pass simply because they are bigger. Fact is, there are more murders happening in London than a lot of other cities. No doubt it has a greater number of dangerous neighbourhoods than Toronto and other smaller cities.

And no doubt a greater number of neighborhoods with no murders too, in fact just a greater number of neighborhoods, because it's bigger...

If you have 10 murders in a village of 500 people and 12 murders in a metropolis of 30 million people which has the biggest murder problem?

[begratto]

Originally Posted by ilcapo

What are the hotspots for murder in these cities? Such as Montreal, Toronto, London etc.

I provided a link to the Montreal homicides map in this post. There are no real hotspots in Mtl. But then, we don't have many homicides either.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Update for LA city as of 5/19/18

2018 - 92
2017 - 108
2016 - 101

Down 14.8% from last year and 8/9% from 2016

Total violent crime down 2.7%, shots fired down 18.7% and shooting victims down 26%!

All going in the right direction again after a couple years of plateauing and increasing slightly after a decade of declines.

[Gresto]

Originally Posted by nito

Philadelphia with a population of 1.6mn had 116 murders as of the 24th May. Toronto has a third of the population, but only half the rate, so is higher when factoring in population.

I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but the City of Toronto has a population of 2.9 million (July, 2017; probably over 3 million now), and the 36-homicide number is culled from that populace.

[Jonesy55]

And 3m is one third of the 9m in London...

[pip]

Originally Posted by LMich

Detroit through May 29 year-over-year after a particularly violent holiday weekened:

2016: 116
2017: 107
2018: 98

A recent Detroit News article also states that at least in Detroit, the weather appears to make little difference when you split the year into summer and winter months.

I read that too. It goes against conventional train of thought.

[softee]

37 for Toronto now after a man was shot and killed right in Yonge-Dundas Square at 11pm last night.

These brazen shootings lately in busy areas in the heart of downtown are a little unnerving.

[robk1982]

Flint has had 15 murders as of May 18, 2018, according to this news article. Same as last year.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde..._in_flint.html

[ilcapo]

Originally Posted by softee

37 for Toronto now after a man was shot and killed right in Yonge-Dundas Square at 11pm last night.

These brazen shootings lately in busy areas in the heart of downtown are a little unnerving.

Are these 37 murders for greater toronto or city?

[333609543]

Originally Posted by ilcapo

Are these 37 murders for greater toronto or city?

Likely greater Toronto but the city proper holds almost all iirc

Edit: I was wrong

[softee]

Originally Posted by ilcapo

Are these 37 murders for greater toronto or city?

They're for the city proper.

Greater Toronto has somewhere between 50-60 right now.