SHANGHAI | Shanghai Tower / 上海中心大厦 | 2,073 FT / 632 M | 128 FLOORS

[muppet]

^yes Lujiazui is a carcrash in terms of a ped-friendly environment that the council's found to its own expense. In contrast with the rest of the city it's installing the walkways
to make amends, but that's not great.

Note how new and less developed Pudong's side of the river is compared to the opposite Puxi side.

More gratuitous Shanghai pix coming up:


Shanghai by AnotherOz, on Flickr

Pudong was the old industrial area, plus paddy fields whilst Puxi is the traditional old city and everything else - although most is out of shot you can see the old buildings, with
reddish-brown roofs that blanket below the highrises, at the bottom and right of each pic. Contrast them with the fields of unbuilt-on land, golf courses and neat rows of 1990s
midrises and highrises in Pudong, which is much more 'suburban':



Shanghai by AnotherOz, on Flickr


In contrast, Puxi's density

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黄带 / Yellow Belt by blackstation, on Flickr

[muppet]

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By worship

http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...extra=page%3D1





Blackriver, http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3742

[muppet]

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old city - new city by Rob-Shanghai, on Flickr


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[WonderlandPark]

Summer seems like the time of year with the cleanest weather. great photos.

[Derchin]

I forgot how pretty Shanghai was.

[ColDayMan]

Amazing photographs.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by Derchin

I forgot how pretty Shanghai was.

A lot prettier then Beijing in my opinion. Larger and denser yet still retains its beauty in a way that keeps you staring at those aerials for a long time while your mind thinks.

[biggerhigherfaster]

Shanghai actually looks a lot more barren and unsettled than I thought, especially in that first pic on this page of the thread, which shows empty green land (is that farmland?) a few miles beyond the downtown core

[muppet]

^yep that's the new Pudong side of the city on the east bank of the river. It was mostly industry, warehouses and farmland before the 1990s and never developed because it was only reachable by ferries. Even after 20 years development 'only' 5 million of the 23 million Shanghaiers live there, and if anything much more building and growth has happened on the established Puxi side. Pudong is more of a planned garden city/ New Town, still struggling to attract people out there. Lujiazui (the bit nearest Puxi), which is gearing up to be the main financial centre is their best bet, still with acres of room to fill despite being the showpiece in the crown.


www.worldexecutive.com

http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com

By contrast the Puxi side claims the worlds largest city centre and highrises as far as one can see:



www.brianmicklethwait.com

[10023]

Originally Posted by muppet

Where is this, and would it be considered Shanghai's main urban park?

I haven't seen much parkland in photos of the city, which is a shame when they've had the opportunity to plan and set aside space for it.

[giallo]

^ That's Century Park in Pudong, and yes, it's the biggest of its kind in the city. My friend owns an apartment in the one of the white buildings on the righthand side of the photo. Standing on his balcony, and looking over that park, it doesn't even feel like I'm in Shanghai. That much green in one place looks alien in Shanghai.

Pudong has a lot of green space whereas Puxi has very little. Most of the parks in Puxi are tiny. It's one of my major criticisms of this side of the river.

[10023]

How big is it relative to the main parks in NYC, London, etc?

At least there's something over there that's developed with humans in mind, and that last photo makes it look nicer than most aerials. But I'd still live on the other side of the river given the choice. Have there ever been plans floated to create more green space in Puxi (obviously tough to do in a fully built up urban area, but if anyone can it's probably the Chinese).

[muppet]

Its about 60% the size of Central Park, or 80% the size of Hyde Park-Kensington Gardens.

Actually Chinese law stipulates that x amount of people need to love within y vicinity of z amount of green space since 2003. Theyve created parks (alot of criticism as many buildings were cleared to create them), and pocket parks. The new highrise blocks and developments often have landscaped gardens below.

But yes, what they lack are the really large spaces.



Andrew Rochfort, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=6056229



Superlover, http://img170.poco.cn/mypoco

[chris08876]

Does anyone have a figure for how many highrises (12+ stories) are in Shanghai?

[10023]

I love pocket parks and squares, but they can't replace real major parks with some semblence of nature and space to picnic or play sports or run. Even Hyde Park is only 4 miles in a lap.

[MolsonExport]

there are a fair number of lovely parks Puxi-side (e.g., Fuxing Park in the French Concession). Per-capita greenery is certainly much lower than many if not most other cities.

[MarshallKnight]

This is all so interesting. Having never been, I'm only learning about Shanghai through photos and these threads. Almost all of the cameras have been pointed towards Pudong (for understandable reasons), and I do love the drama of the Big Three jutting out into the river, but holy hell Puxi is incredibly dense. The only other cities I can think of that compare in terms of just endless highrises are Sao Paolo and Tokyo. And I'd say Puxi has the best looking buildings of the three.

Man, I need to go.

[franktko]

Originally Posted by MarshallKnight

The only other cities I can think of that compare in terms of just endless highrises are Sao Paolo and Tokyo.

Well, according to this site, Hong Kong would have almost 4x more highrises (>90m) than Shanghai...

http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

Pretty hard to imagine when looking at the aerial picture posted by muppet...

[muppet]

Trust me, Shanghai (and anywhere else on the mainland really) is severely undercounted. By 2007 alone it was adding as much highrise space as Manhattan yearly to cope with 10,000 newcomers a day. Back in 2005 when land subsidence became a major issue the report that led to a year-long moratorium on highrises cited 7,000 highrises and 2,000 more on the cards. Since then it's probably well over 10,000 by now.

http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/10383...1_sar_data.pdf

article from 2005

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...er=news_index:

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by muppet

Trust me, Shanghai (and anywhere else on the mainland really) is severely undercounted. By 2007 alone it was adding as much highrise space as Manhattan yearly to cope with 10,000 newcomers a day. Back in 2005 when land subsidence became a major issue the report that led to a year-long moratorium on highrises cited 7,000 highrises and 2,000 more on the cards. Since then it's probably well over 10,000 by now.

http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/10383...1_sar_data.pdf

article from 2005

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...er=news_index:

Sources like Emporis I've noticed really undercount some places.