Winnipeg | Portage and Main

[Geebrr]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

We came back from Winnipeg yesterday. Amazing city!

We at at the Exchange a couple times and we were actually quite impressed accessibility wise (and of course for the spectacular preservation of the district). We had breakfast in a basement restaurant (Clementine's) and noticed they had an elevator at the back for accessibility. We also went to a place called Kevin's and it looked like the floor had been lowered to ground level, with the basement windows now at feet level.

Portage and Main though was pretty ridiculous. I went there with a pretty solid familiarity of the situation and layout yet still got a confused at the circus level, trying to figure out where to go in order to access the Walkway System (as opposed to going up to street level). My in-laws had no idea the intersection was closed to pedestrians and would of had a lot of trouble if I had not been there.

Quick shout-out to the MTS Centre and True North Square. Pictures don't do them justice.

Thanks for sharing!

[windypeg]

Originally Posted by Ando

Unfortunately, people don't vote in favour of change, that has been proven again and again. The vast majority of voters who don't care about the downtown area, and in fact never go there, are likely to be in opposition. That's why polls have shown the NO side in the majority. Governing by referendum is a terrible way of governing. I'm not optimistic but obviously hope for a miracle.

"I never go downtown but that won't stop me from opposing whatever you want to do with the downtown!!" - Winnipeggers

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by windypeg

"I never go downtown but that won't stop me from opposing whatever you want to do with the downtown!!" - Winnipeggers

Reminds me of the Blake Wheeler signing. From 1979-2017:

"The Jets are too cheap to ever compete for the Stanley Cup. We will never sign our best players!"

From 2017-present:

"Are the Jets nuts? Now that we have signed old man Wheeler, we will have no cap space for our young players! Who cares if he was a Hart Trophy nominee? We should have traded him for draft picks!"

[buzzg]

Frankly anyone who says that is a moron. This is an incredible contract.

Wheeler has just reached his prime. He had more points last year than Tavares ever has.

Most points in last 3 NHL seasons:
Patrick Kane - 271
Sidney Crosby - 263
Connor McDavid - 256
Nikita Kucherov - 251
Blake Wheeler - 243

Tavares is signed for $11m/yr til he’s 37; wheeler signed for $8.25m/yr til 36. Tavares took a hometown “discount” to play in Toronto, and was fetching $13m from NYI and others.

Compared to other players of his caliber or considered to be better in the league, this is n absolute steal. He said he knew he could have got much more somewhere else, but wanted to stay here – and this is usually when players take sunset contracts.

With Enstrom gone and Trouba almost guaranteed to be gone by the deadline, we have enough room, especially as the salary cap increases every year.

[buzzg]

I apologize didn’t even realize this wasn’t a P&M thread lol

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Most points in last 3 NHL seasons:
Patrick Kane - 271
Sidney Crosby - 263
Connor McDavid - 256
Nikita Kucherov - 251
Blake Wheeler - 243

That is an amazing stat.

[Jets4Life]

hey guys, I just got a kickass job and Im drink.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by buzzg

I apologize didn’t even realize this wasn’t a P&M thread lol

It is but Black Wheeler is the best guy to step foot at Portage and Main ever.

[Ando]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

hey guys, I just got a kickass job and Im drink.

Congrats - I think you'll make a fantastic Starbucks barista.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Ando

Congrats - I think you'll make a fantastic Starbucks barista.

Not even sure what a barista is, and I am too lazy to Google it.
Not sure what Starbucks has to do with anything, unless you are implying that people who are employed at Starbucks should be ridiculed.

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Not even sure what a barista is, and I am too lazy to Google it.

I'm surprised you don't know, but it doesn't matter anyway.

Congrats, I guess...

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by The Jabroni

I'm surprised you don't know, but it doesn't matter anyway.

Congrats, I guess...

I never go to Starbucks anyway......If I get coffee, it's either Tim Hortons or McDonalds.

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

I never go to Starbucks anyway......If I get coffee, it's either Tim Hortons or McDonalds.

Same here.

Anyway, back on topic...

[Jets4Life]

Just open the damn thing already. The "no" side are a bunch of naysayers, who are afraid of change.

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Just open the damn thing already. The "no" side are a bunch of naysayers, who are afraid of change.

"I love this city, but it's so shitty. Why is crime so bad downtown? Keep Portage and Main closed, because I'm gonna be late for my pilates class, and then I have to drop my kids off to hockey practice. Also, Go Jets Go! Let's go to Portage and Main when the Jets win a playoff series! Also, why the hell is it so hard to access Portage and Main by foot!?"

~ Winnipeggers, probably.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by The Jabroni

"I love this city, but it's so shitty. Why is crime so bad downtown? Keep Portage and Main closed, because I'm gonna be late for my pilates class, and then I have to drop my kids off to hockey practice. Also, Go Jets Go! Let's go to Portage and Main when the Jets win a playoff series! Also, why the hell is it so hard to access Portage and Main by foot!?"

~ Winnipeggers, probably.

I think this is a pretty common attitude among some people in many cities. We just see more of it because we are so close to the issue, and the consequences of this attitude are so personal to us. I do believe that Winnipeg has that love/hate thing going on, but I think it exists in other cities too. IMO it's just more "socially acceptable" to voice it publicly in Winnipeg for some reason.

[CoryB]

My challenge to the "open" side is hold a demonstration on how pedestrian traffic crossing P&M during the evening rush hour will have not noticeable impact. Time it to occur after Oct 1 and before the election day so that people can make fully informed choices and support your side.

[trueviking]

would be great....and if the City was interested in actual public consultation that could have been done....I am not sure they can so easily change the light cycles to the ones proposed in the study though...and close off the right turn to portage east.

i think they should just add 3 seconds a day for 20 days and say ha ha...you didnt even notice the delay.

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by trueviking

would be great....and if the City was interested in actual public consultation that could have been done....I am not sure they can so easily change the light cycles to the ones proposed in the study though...and close off the right turn to portage east.

i think they should just add 3 seconds a day for 20 days and say ha ha...you didnt even notice the delay.

Notwithstanding, it will always be challenging to determine if any "delay" is a direct result of pedestrian light cycles or because of traffic backed up southbound on the PM commute at St. Anne's/Bishop, St. Mary's/Fermor, St. Anne's/St. Mary's junction, St. Mary's/Marion etc etc - domino effect...

No doubt the blame will always be pedestrians at P&M no matter what, but the cause could be a whole number of other things...I can just see it now though - "why is traffic so bad today?!?!"..."must be because of pedestrians at P&M"...

[Ando]

It's all a red herring anyway. People will quickly adapt and not even notice the difference.