601 Beach Crescent | 166m | 56 Fl | Proposed

[rofina]

Originally Posted by Vin

The base podium will look horrible if it is just concrete painted over. The L-shape green fins are tacky.

Love the tower, but please, no seafoam glass windows.

It does largely seem that we have moved past the sea foam towers of the early 2000's.

Even the generic proposals are somewhat distinct these days.

[fredinno]

I'm ok with it. Not every building has to look immensely unique. It's a relatively simple, but elegant design.

The concern is going to be w/ the materials...

[Vin]

Originally Posted by rofina

It does largely seem that we have moved past the sea foam towers of the early 2000's.

Even the generic proposals are somewhat distinct these days.

Still lots of building built with that kind of glass though. Other than the Brentwood mall towers and a few in Metrotown, pretty much every suburb building is like that. All the new downtown West End buildings, and also the Pacific Centre office tower reclad, are all using seafoam glass. So yeah, the trend persists.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by fredinno

I'm ok with it. Not every building has to look immensely unique. It's a relatively simple, but elegant design.

The concern is going to be w/ the materials...

I think you summed it up perfectly, and many will agree with you. I know I do.

[Feathered Friend]

No to a Gateway, No to Paid Parking, and No to Affordability – A Thumb is Placed on the Scales of Community Consultation

601 Beach
When Darren and I attended the pre-application event for Vancouver’s newest gateway tower, we noted how the opposition was divided; there were competing factions who were happy to block the others’ view, if it preserved their own. That changed by this open house, as these groups seem to have coalesced around a “throw everything and the kitchen sink” tactic.

Their main concern was obvious, as a couple dozen people spent much of their time gathered around the context model yelling at city staff. Many did not even look at the info boards, or the detailed design model. Their sole focus was to protest any impact to the views of their investments (homes), which have appreciated hundreds of thousands of dollars since they were built in 2005....

Sadly, some of those who submitted feedback in favour of the project, and even those who are planning to start a petition against it, may have their opinions overruled. In the time we spent at the event, we noticed, and were puzzled to see, a couple individuals, who were most concerned about the perceived lack of parking, filling out multiple feedback forms at the event’s one small table. It was only when they were leaving that we overheard their plans to later give these pre-filled forms to others so they can write their signature and mail it in.

More at:
https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/1...-consultation/

and in case anyone wants to send a comment form in afterwards:
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...h/feedback.htm

[VanCan604]

URBAN DESIGN PANEL - SPECIAL HIGHER BUILDING REVIEW

Feb 20 - 3pm - Town Hall Meeting Room - VANCOUVER CITY HALL

Chair: Jim Huffman

Panel Members:
Helen Avini Besharat
Amela Brudar
Jeniffer Marshall
Derek Neale
Grant Newfield
Colette Parsons
Susan Ockwell
Munsheen Sharma
Jeniffer Stamp
Yijin Wen
Matt Younger

Guest Panel Members:
Peter Cardew
Laura Jimenez
Mark Ostry
Robin Williams

https://vancouver.ca/your-government...ign-panel.aspx
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/higherbuilding022019.pdf

[Tommyrey]

https://www.straight.com/news/120033...ancouver-tower

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

More at:
https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/1...-consultation/

and in case anyone wants to send a comment form in afterwards:
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...h/feedback.htm

Can we just decide to stop having public consultations? These people are getting ridiculous.

[Prometheus]

Can you just stop repeating photos unnecessarily in every thread?

[officedweller]

Yeah, to edit the quoted post delete the [IMG] links but keep the other text and the [quote] at the front an end of the quote.

[red-paladin]

Another article about the review
https://www.tricitynews.com/proposed...iew-1.23633519

[trofirhen]

On 601 Beach, one my major concerns is the use of materials. I'd hate to see something glassy/spandrelly/tinny looking. I hope they'd use something like polished granite.

[logan5]

The tower looks blue in the render so that means generic seafoam green glass. No stainless panels here.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Well if we really want to start seeing such projects or something closer to them in Vancouver we really need to start making our voices heard much more than we already are, especially after just learning that the Butterfly and adjacent tower were going to be our city's tallest towers until another layer of shadowing height restrictions were arbitrarily slapped onto them (despite the fact the areas they would have shadowed are already shadowed by tree canopies)

Especially given all the new development potential around our major hubs (and so not be major hubs) something needs to give.

Hey Metro, in "office market discussions" Feb 7 /19, post 501, you summed it up perfectly!! This is an issue that IMO needs to be addressed with more force, as I replied.
(sorry folks, I don't know how to make a link between threads.)

[Tommyrey]

Haven't seen anything on this forum or online about what happened at the Feb 20th UDP for 601 Beach Crescent. Anyone know when we can expect to hear something? How long before an official report will come out?

Our neighboring building held its annual meeting and there appear to be a lot of legitimate concerns about traffic and parking with the development and Vancouver House retail given that Beach Crescent currently is a one way street in front to this development.

[Feathered Friend]

As noted in the 600 Robson thread, Darren from CityDuo was at the UDP event, but was pretty sick with the flu. I would expect he'll post something about the meeting next week, but it is safe to say that parking / traffic was not a concern shared by the panel.

[Feathered Friend]

UDP Approves of New Vancouver Gateway Tower – Taller is Simply Better

601 Beach
It may have only been three week ago, but this meeting of the Urban Design Panel seems a lot longer ago to me. That may be because 4 guest architects joined the usual panelists to form a so called “Super” meeting. Their mission was to review a building that hopes to become the taller dance partner of one of our city’s architectural gems, Vancouver House.

Even though I had just caught Hannah’s flu a couple days before, I knew I couldn’t miss this meeting, so I dawned a flu mask and dragged myself to City Hall. By the time I arrived, the town hall room was filled to the brim with people, and a spillover area had been set up in the lobby.

Sadly, the microphones in the town hall room didn’t pick up much audio, so I chose to spend the nearly 4 hour long meeting outside the western door, struggling to stay upright. Hopefully you feel my sacrifice was worth it, considering I think I captured most of the panel’s sentiments, though I’ll be more brief than the city staff who took 5 and a half pages of notes.

More at : https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2019/0...simply-better/

[Metro-One]

So this tower may even go taller in order to reduce the podium's mass?

That would be a welcomed change of pace.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

So this tower may even go taller in order to reduce the podium's mass?

That would be a welcomed change of pace.

In other words a point tower. That's a welcome change? Seems like more of the same. I would hate to see the podium reduced

[officedweller]

I think they wanted the tower itself narrower at its base.
The displaced density would be added to the top.
The narrower tower width/diameter would allow it to move to the north and not encroach the bridge setbacks for the tower.
That would then allow more light to the top of the podium amenity.

Ultimately, a shift in the curves/wave up the tower - so instead of wide, narrow, wide, it would be narrow, wide, narrow.