NEW YORK | 520 W. 41 St (2 Towers) | 723 FT Resi / FT Office| FLOORS

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder

great, because we need more glass boxes

Actually, we do. It's what the demand is. People who rent/buy apartments want those glass walls with floor to ceiling views, and office tenants want the wide open windows with the generous daylight they provide. There are some exceptions to the rule, obviously, for residential towers. But overall, glass is what is preferred.

Whether or not you like glass buildings, you have to live in the real world, where demand dictates what gets built.

[JayPro]

Not to jump in on the dogpile, but I do believe Guy's right.
Even well into the '90s the vast proportion of façades in both skylines were mostly metallic, stone and concrete...with some reflective glass in a small gamut of shades thrown in. Generally, the skylines looked rather earthen, if you know what I mean.

Over time, however, there may end up this question of whether the majority of blue-glass construction was done in one or two sections/neighborhoods. I don't think that this should be a problem, though. Just a thought.

[NYguy]

The public meeting took place on the 31st, today is the last day they were accepting written comments. I'm almost certain this will be approved, though who knows how much affordable housing Silverstein will have to build.

[ChiTownWonder]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Actually, we do. It's what the demand is. People who rent/buy apartments want those glass walls with floor to ceiling views, and office tenants want the wide open windows with the generous daylight they provide. There are some exceptions to the rule, obviously, for residential towers. But overall, glass is what is preferred.

Whether or not you like glass buildings, you have to live in the real world, where demand dictates what gets built.

no no, i love glass buildings. the thing i don't like is the box shape. im sure that there are ways to maintain floor to ceiling glass windows, while having an elegant and thoughtful design. i suppose its a filler though. just wish it had a bit more to the shape.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder

no no, i love glass buildings. the thing i don't like is the box shape. im sure that there are ways to maintain floor to ceiling glass windows, while having an elegant and thoughtful design. i suppose its a filler though. just wish it had a bit more to the shape.

Obviously there are, but Silverstein's site plan (footprint) is limited. You work from there up. This is not a higher end residential tower like the condos being built on 57th, so you won't see tapered floors with 1 or 2 units at the top that can sell for $100 million. He's going to squeeze as many units into this development as possible. But just for the record, I have no problem with this tower being a box. I think we get too carried away with skyscrapers being too much. I think the box is the skyscraper in it's purest form. Further, the box is perfectly suited to the Manhattan street grid and it's canyons. This will be a tall tower, but it won't be the tallest in Manhattan, or even on the west side, so if we end up with a flat roof, its no big problem.

[NYguy]

http://commercialobserver.com/2014/08/silverstein-seeks-demo-permit-for-hudson-yards-tower/

Silverstein Seeks Demo Permit for Hudson Yards Tower


By Lauren Elkies Schram
8/27/14

Larry Silverstein‘s Silverstein Properties is seeking a permit to demolish a Hudson Yards building, according to city records. That would pave the way for the developer’s planned mixed-use tower, which would soar 1,100 feet into the sky.

Attorneys for Silverstein Properties presented their case for changing the zoning of the Hudson Yards site at 520 West 41st Street in the proposal’s first public hearing at the Department of City Planning at the end of last month, as Commercial Observer previously reported.

Silverstein’s plans call for developing 1,400 residential units, 175 units of corporate housing, 300,000 square feet of retail space and a 10,000-square-foot covered public open space at the two-acre site

Siri & Marsik Architects is listed on the DOB application as the architect of record. No one was available in the firm’s office to comment. Silverstein declined to comment through a spokesman.

[chris08876]

I keep forgetting about this tower when it comes to the supertall game. The 1,400 units is a game changer for a residential supertall as the 57th St. towers really don't have many units. In terms of units, this is probably one of the the highest or up there in terms of a single tower.

[NYguy]

^ It's easy to lose site of one or another.


Demo filing...


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQu...passjobnumber=122093484&passdocnumber=01

DEMOLITION OF ENTIRE BUILDING. ERECTION OF SIDEWALK FENCE.

[Swede]

1400 apartments in slightly over half a block. I wonder: what's currently the most apartments in a Manhattan block?

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Swede

1400 apartments in slightly over half a block. I wonder: what's currently the most apartments in a Manhattan block?

Hadn't thought about it, but there could be more on the block just to the north when 605 is completed. I'm sure there are other blocks in the running.

[chris08876]

The census estimates will be interesting to see for Manhattan. So many housing units going up.

[NYguy]

The block where the Silver Towers stands could hold more as well. There will be many new people moving to the Hudson Yards area, so the shopping at both ends will be welcome.

[scalziand]

^The River Place/ Silver Towers block has 921 + 1359 = 2260 units.

[ILNY]

Originally Posted by chris08876

The census estimates will be interesting to see for Manhattan. So many housing units going up.

Population of Manhattan:

(2013) 1,626,159
(1910) 2,331,542

...still a lot to catch up. Over 100 years ago, Manhattan had 700,000 more people than it has now.

[SD_Phil]

Originally Posted by ILNY

Over 100 years ago, Manhattan had 700,000 more people than it has now. :???:

Tenements.

Nobody should have to live that way though. A quick trip to the tenement museum will make that especially salient.

[Perklol]

I wonder how bad congestion will be in 42nd street going to Midtown. There are going to be too many smaller buses carrying the residents of the buildings to subway stations.

[NYguy]

^ I doubt that would make a big difference, one way or the other.

Originally Posted by Eveningsong

I wonder how bad congestion will be in 42nd street going to Midtown. There are going to be too many smaller buses carrying the residents of the buildings to subway stations.

This building will soon be demolished, leaving the site clear for the eventual tower to rise...


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[N830MH]

Originally Posted by Eveningsong

I wonder how bad congestion will be in 42nd street going to Midtown. There are going to be too many smaller buses carrying the residents of the buildings to subway stations.

Yes, you may be right. Too many buses, taxi, and etc. Very overcrowded!!! Don't go there.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Please stop the bullshit and act like adults,no more bashing each other. If people keeps bashing fellow users and mods I will suspend you.

[dumbo]

I head down here from time to time, the chinese consulate is at the very end of 42nd. I think the bigger problem is that the far far west side is the connectivity. It's 15 minute walk to the subway. These fancy high rises must have shuttles to the time square station and back. Maybe if the S train were to go a bit farther?