Winnipeg | CentrePoint | Alt/Glasshouse | 20F | 21F | 72.5M | 70M | Completed

[1ajs]

theres no basement

[Biff]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

theres no basement

Yes, the foundations have already been put in. The podium should rise pretty quickly actually. The first construction you will see on site will be walls above street level.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

There's no basement

I find this kind of odd. Any idea why underground parking is not being used here? Is it not worth it?

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by Riverman

I find this kind of odd. Any idea why underground parking is not being used here? Is it not worth it?

They have above ground parking anyway, thus the parkade.

Also underground in that area, being such a high water table would not be cost effective so I am sure when they did their study they decided the parkade would be better. I rather them waste money on an above parkade, so there is more money left for the actual towers.

Remember how the Hydro tower was going to have a deeper parkade, but they ran into to much or to high a water table.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

Remember how the Hydro tower was going to have a deeper parkade, but they ran into to much or to high a water table.

I forgot about that. I've heard that when Winnipeg's large underground parkades were built the water table was much lower due to the huge amounts of water the meat packers were sucking out of the ground,

[DonaldSmith]

Originally Posted by Riverman

I forgot about that. I've heard that when Winnipeg's large underground parkades were built the water table was much lower due to the huge amounts of water the meat packers were sucking out of the ground,

Also the brewery.

[Mininari]

So, in the interest of making underground parking feasible, we should all wash our cars and water our lawns daily all day?

[DonaldSmith]

Originally Posted by Mininari

So, in the interest of making underground parking feasible, we should all wash our cars and water our lawns daily all day?

Our water is no longer drawn from the water table. That would only make things worse.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

Also the brewery.

Really? Well water is not all that good around here.

[Shinook]

I doubt the wellwater is any worse in Winnipeg than any other city in Canada.

[Mininari]

I know, J/K.
I suppose the lower water tables of the table perhaps was what made the idea of a subway here in the 50's? not an impossible and expensive feat as it would seem to be today? The high water table would make that very difficult to build and maintain.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Mininari

I know, J/K.
I suppose the lower water tables of the table perhaps was what made the idea of a subway here in the 50's? not an impossible and expensive feat as it would seem to be today? The high water table would make that very difficult to build and maintain.

I agree. But you look at a city like Manhattan. Essentially and island at sea level. Subways below sea level. May be difficult but not impossible.

And I'm not comparing Winnipeg to Manhattan! Just an example that came to mind.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I agree. But you look at a city like Manhattan. Essentially and island at sea level. Subways below sea level. May be difficult but not impossible.

And I'm not comparing Winnipeg to Manhattan! Just an example that came to mind.

Do you see the engineering to make a parkade in New York is or some asain sea cities. It is mammoth, plus even the world trade center holes are continually pumped out. They have a basin in those buildings that pumps the water out.

Here it is Sand, dirt, Clay, and in some places crappy fragmented limestone, thus the reason the pilings in the new Museum are such different depths, yet only a 100 feet apart. Just shows how bad the rock strata is.

Originally Posted by Riverman

Really? Well water is not all that good around here.

Lived in Vermette, perfect well water, but if you go close to say Fort Whyte, the water turns very very salty. It all depends on how deep you go and where. Our farm when we had it in Vermette, our first well was 300 feet, it was fine, then the water table shifted, so we had to drill another down to 900 feet, cost a lot then hate to think now, but it was straight through all the rock that lay way benieth that area. The water was as clear as a spring in the mountains. But I am unsure how it is now as the area is pretty much filled in with houses and septic fields.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

Do you see the engineering to make a parkade in New York is or some asain sea cities. It is mammoth, plus even the world trade center holes are continually pumped out. They have a basin in those buildings that pumps the water out.

Here it is Sand, dirt, Clay, and in some places crappy fragmented limestone, thus the reason the pilings in the new Museum are such different depths, yet only a 100 feet apart. Just shows how bad the rock strata is.

Good points.

I said it was possible, not easy! I've seen the "bathtubs" created in New York and other places. I also knew Winnipeg has less than ideal underground conditions. Cobble layers, etc.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Shinook

I doubt the wellwater is any worse in Winnipeg than any other city in Canada.

Well water is not commonly used for drinking in cities in Canada.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

Lived in Vermette, perfect well water, but if you go close to say Fort Whyte, the water turns very very salty. It all depends on how deep you go and where.

Same north of the city. The water around St. Andrews airport is undrinkable, and in Middlechurch/Rivercrest is is not much better.

[Shinook]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Well water is not commonly used for drinking in cities in Canada.

I am well aware of that. But you are making out to sound like the well water there isn't as "up to snuff" as it is elsewhere, when I'm saying that isn't the case.

[Riverman]

Whatever you say.

[JamieDavid Exchange]

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[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

It must be costing a pretty penny just having that huge LITZ crane sitting there doing nothing for the last 4 weeks and counting.

Maybe, but then again there is not much use for those in the dead of winter.