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Old Posted Sep 7, 2009, 7:20 AM
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Some crappy iPhone shots of my new riverside residency






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Wow...I didn't expect to see such a spirited debate over the virtues of crepe stands.


uaarkson - nice view out your window. Would you mind taking a few pictures of the renovated inside of the Riverfront Residence Hall? I was downtown last Thursday and was tempted to see if I could just walk right in to see the new look, but decided against it.
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About a year prior to the fence going up, the garage was open, with just simple sawhorse barricades warning of falling debris. The condition was not good of the parking garage. You wouldn't be able to drive a car through there since there were open holes with exposed rebar. It appeared that the garage was in the process of being repaired, but I have no sources whether or not it was completed.

My advice would be to stay away from there. After all, that's why they put the fence up.
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Is it really that dangerous? Some of my friends were talking about hopping the fence and seeing how far they could get, and I've always wanted to explore an abandoned building.
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Even if you did get the past fence, you wouldn't be able to get into the building. Trust me on this. Not worth getting busted just checking out a parking garage. You won't get into the offices. If it helps your curiosity, I think I might have taken a few pictures a very long time ago when the garage was open and unobstructed. I'd have to do some digging though. They were taken in 2004.
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I kind of doubt the office floors are in that bad of shape. There was a pipe burst in 2001 that was the final blow to the occupancy of the building (and I seem to remember it was in the garage), but I doubt that you would find anything real exciting above the parking garage. For all I know, the office floors are intact. And, as Hayward and I have both said, you would almost certainly NOT be able to get above the garage.

As I said above, it's not like this building has been vacant for very long. I can't imagine it would be anything like exploring the MCS or pre-renovation Durant.



If it were me, I try my luck with this old school. It's a few blocks off of Saginaw right next to the interchange of I-69 and I-475 (south of I-69). Always been one of my favorite abandoned buildings in Flint.

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Where exactly is that school?

@Hayward, yeah that would be cool.

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Taken 2004, when you could legally enter the garage. Again, I recommend you not go into this building. I'm only showing a few:




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Yikes

They'll have to do a lot of work if they ever want to use the building again
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Where exactly is that school?
It's the lone building on the east side of Harrison St. with the connector ramp from I-69 to I-475 behind it.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...19119&t=h&z=16
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How did that building (genesee towers) get into such bad condition after only a few years of being abandoned?
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Most likely because it was never properly maintained even when it was occupied.
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Updates from last week

"Stevans on Stevens" Grocery Store - brick has been painted, and things seem to be on track




A nearly completed Rowe Building - tenants are supposed to be moving in soon




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Witherbee's Market (kitty-corner from the Durant)

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http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde..._toward_t.html

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Flint takes first step toward turning Chevy in the Hole brownfield site into park
By The Flint Journal
November 03, 2009, 12:03PM

The Flint Journal | Jean Johnson

FLINT, Michigan — The first phase of converting the Chevy in the Hole into a green space has begun.

The city dumped its first batch of leaves into the 150-acre brownfield redevelopment site today, the first day of compost pickup for residents.
The contaminated site -- once a backdrop for the Sit-Down Strike of 1936-37 -- holds a prominent place on the riverfront between downtown Flint and Kettering University.

We’re going to turn this old abandoned site into a new green corridor,” Flint Mayor Dayne Walling said during a press conference this morning, adding the leaf and yard compost will be used to form the vegetative cap and green space for the park.

Rebecca Fedewa, Flint River Watershed Coalition executive director, said by adding the compost, contamination of runoff can be avoided to decrease contamination of the river.

“This is a really great step forward for the city and the river,” she said. “Flint can be a real leader of how these things can be done.”

The park should take about four years, said Steve Montle, green cities coordinator for the mayor’s office. He estimated that the cap would need to be about one- to four-feet deep, depending on the area.

“We currently pay $300,000 a year to have our leaves and compost taken away and an additional $400,000 to have topsoil brought in to backfill demolition sites,” Montle said.


“By combining Chevy in the Hole with our compost operation it is expected to save the city up to a half million dollars a year, while at the same time moving us one step closer to repurposing that site as a green space for the community.”

Walling said he thought the solution was good for the city’s bottom line.

It’s really an innovative solution to what is a costly problem,” he said. “We’re going to save half a million a year for the next five years.”

Walling learned last week that the Army Corps has placed both the Chevy in the Hole and the Hamilton Dam under 216 authority, which means the projects will be included in its 2010/2011 budget.

The Army Corps of Engineers will spend a year planning and evaluating the cost of repair of the dam and the rehabilitation of Chevy in the Hole. Initially the cost was estimated at $14 million. The Army Corps will pay 75 percent of the project and the city will pay 25 percent.

Montle said the Army Corps will begin its work at the channel, the city will begin at Kearsley Street, and the two aim to meet in the middle.

The project is estimated to take up to four years to complete.

“While this may be a longer process than we had hoped for, I am pleased to know that the Army Corps of Engineers see value in these two sites in our community and is committed to their future development,” Walling said.

What is happening here???!! Someone in the City of Flint came up with an innovative idea that saves money, is environmentally friendly, and can help to "green" one of the largest brownfield sites in the country?

Seriously, this is huge.
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That's going to be one big-@ss park. We just got three moonscapes (GM is keeping hold of what would have been #4) here in Lansing that we're trying to figure out what to do with, though, it seems that the city and township leaders are under the impression that they'll actually be able to develop them.

I'm confused, though, are they turning the whole thing into a giant compost heap, or just part of it? Is there any map or masterplan of the potential layout of the park? This is an incredibly large area to work with, and you could concievably develop a host of different park amenities on it.
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Yeah, the article wasn't very clear to me either. I'm guessing that the city will just start making one big compost pile, and as the actual "work" progresses, then it will spread out the newly formed dirt. They'll also use the new dirt to backfill demolitions.

There was a proposal put out a while back (2007 or 2008, I believe) that the Land Bank put out, detailing two plans for Chevy-In-The-Hole: either do a more extensive/costly clean up of the site and make it into a "urban" riverfront, or turn it into a park and let nature take it's course in cleaning the site up. The proposal actually called for it to be a State Park, but I don't think that's going to happen.

http://www.thelandbank.org/Landuseco...n_the_Hole.pdf


edit: After reading the proposal again, I realized the "urban" riverfront idea involved first creating a city park on the site, then developing it as needed.

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Great Lakes Tech Center Auction

This kind of snuck up on me. The owners of the Great Lakes Technology Center (former GM factory-turned-office/mixed use facility) recently decided to split the property into 4 parcels and auction them off. Most of the Center has been empty for quite a while, so hopefully the new owners will be able to put their respective parcels to good use.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde..._great_la.html

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By Ron Fonger | Flint Journal
December 15, 2009, 11:42AM
FLINT -- The first parcel up for auction at the Great Lakes Technology Centre sold just minutes ago, fetching $885,000.

The identity of the online buyer was not immediately known. About two dozen people were at the auction with five others participating online, officials said.

The buyer had the option of choosing which of four parcels the complex has been divided into for sale. The winning bidder chose the east parcel of the center.

The east parcel includes underground parking and a steel atrium.

The second auction has just begun with bidding at $250,000.

The Great Lakes complex once housed thousands of General Motors white and blue collar workers but the company's last workers are leaving here by the end of the month. The complex has been divided into four parcels for today's auction.

An auction official told the small crowd here that someone was going to get bargains in today's sales.

"I think the actual structures ... I think we're going to sell them for a tiny fraction of what it would cost to reproduce them today," the official said.

Second parcel sells for $525,000

Third parcel of property sells for $350,000

Final parcel sells for $230,000
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owe building opens its doors to the public in downtown Flint

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Rowe building opens its doors to the public in downtown Flint
By Jean Johnson | The Flint Journal
January 26, 2010, 3:15PM

FLINT, Michigan — The Rowe building opened its doors Tuesday, as more than 200 guests toured the site following a ribbon cutting.

The $22.7 million project combined three adjacent buildings in the heart of the downtown business district, combining them into a four-story, 83,000-square-foot building on S. Saginaw Street.

"We mark another significant milestone in the redevelopment of Downtown Flint," said Tim Herman, CEO of Genesee Regional Chamber of Commerce and president of the Uptown Reinvestment Corporation. "The Rowe Building is testimony to what is possible when private, public and non-profit partners work together toward a common goal."

Rowe Professional Services Company — which occupies the second and third floor of 504 S. Saginaw St. — features open brick walls, high ceilings, and huge windows. The engineering firm has signed a 10-year lease for the headquarters, which drew approximately 100 professionals to the city.

"Those 100 plus employees will have a tremendous impact and that just can't be overstated," Flint Mayor Dayne Walling.

The surrounding business should feel the effect, he said. The project redefined downtown Flint, and depicts the future of the community.

"We're moving past the boarded-up windows, and the broken sidewalks and the neighborhoods that need repair to a place that's renovated and modern."

The project began in 2006 but faced a huge stumbling block with the partial collapse of the building in August of 2007.

"While the partial collapse of the building was a definite setback and very frustrating ... Rowe never lost it's its enthusiasm for seeing this project completed," said Rowe CEO John Matonich.

After the ceremony, Rowe and residents opened their doors to gawkers so they could see the inside of Flint's newest edition.

"This is wonderful for Flint," said Gracie Harris, of Fenton. "I love the clean lines — it's nicely done. I like that it's open and airy."

Prior to the development's completion, each of the eight fourth-floor lofts were leased. Currently 14 people occupy them.

For resident David Custer, his mind was set as soon as he saw a building rendering. He lives in one of the eight fourth floor lofts with his pug, Mona.

His 2,100-square-foot loft is stylish, with a first floor master bedroom equipped with a full bathroom, kitchen, and second full bath. Upstairs is a second bedroom, which Custer converted into an office and a balcony that overlooks the kitchen and main room with high vaulted ceilings.

Custer, who moved to the building from Goodrich Township, said that lofts like these makes downtown living accessible.

"The people in this building, we want to be in Flint," Custer said. " I hope to attend more of these types of openings."
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By Kristin Longley | Flint Journal
January 29, 2010, 7:00AM

FLINT, Michigan — You can call it shrinking, repatterning or something else entirely, but it’s still the same concept — and it’s coming to the city.

Home by foreclosed home, bulldozers will soon flatten areas potentially as large as blocks in some Flint neighborhoods to make way for greenspace and a hope of future development.

Demolition in three target areas will be funded by $2.5 million of a $25-million stimulus grant awarded to the city for neighborhood stabilization and to fight blight.

Now, after a year of talking about sweeping demolition in Flint, the city now has the resources to make it a reality.

City leaders say it’s not truly shrinking the city — at least not in the way it’s been portrayed by some.

Instead, only foreclosed homes will be targeted.

Under no circumstances would residents be forced to leave their homes to move elsewhere, Flint Mayor Dayne Walling has said.

However, residents in blighted areas could be offered relocation assistance if they chose to move, City Administrator Gregory Eason said.

The $2.5 million grant is Flint’s opportunity to clear some space for redevelopment, commerical opportunities or alternative uses, like urban farming or sidelot acquisition in the areas surrounding Flint Park Lake, Hurley Medical Center and University Avenue.

The foreclosure rate is so high in at least some portions of those neighborhoods that it could mean razing entire blocks of empty homes, Eason said.

"Most of the acquisition in areas of blight, the city will acquire (the properties), the land bank will clear titles and we'll go through and clear out the land," he said. "It will allow the city to purchase large blocks of housing where speculators haven't had the resources to do that."

A plan presented to Flint City Council members says 247 foreclosed homes will be demolished in the three areas.

“This is our first opportunity here to remove a lot of blight and hopefully put together a strategy on how to renovate our infrastructure,” Eason said.

Flint’s population is shrinking at one of the fastest rates in the nation. Now the city plans to shrink its most broken-down housing stock along with it.

Patrick Ryals, who lives in the Flint Park Lake area, supports ridding his community of blighted homes, but wants to make sure the resulting empty land is managed properly.

After all, Flint is a city, he said — not the countryside.

“Some of these neighborhoods have already been decimated,” he said. “We want to make Flint a city that’s going to be a city again.

“We need to keep these neighborhoods going.”

City Councilwoman Jackie Poplar worries about what people in those areas will make of the demolitions, and asked city officials to communicate their plans with residents.

“When Grandma Susie is watching television and she sees the bulldozers come down her street ... how are we going to get the message out that we’re not shrinking her city?” she said.

Carriage Town resident Phillip Barnhart said he would rally against bulldozers razing the area’s historic homes located near Hurley Medical Center before they can be preserved. He said he would try to dissuade the city from demolishing any of Flint’s historic buildings and encourages rehabilitation instead.

“Any structure with historic value needs to be saved,” he said. “That’s so you don’t degrade the quality of the historic potential in the neighborhood.”

However, Barnhart also said he supports Flint’s revitalization and rehabilitation efforts.

“It’s exciting to see the city cross over this peak and start to see things happen,” he said.

Others question whether the stimulus dollars go far enough. Flint is made up of dozens of neighborhoods, but only a handful will see these stimulus dollars.

Eason said the three demolition target areas were chosen by the federal government based on their high rate of foreclosures.

But Councilman Bernard Lawler, whose 5th Ward is barely represented in the target areas, said some areas in his ward is riddled with foreclosures. The 5th Ward also had the highest rate of some crimes in the city last year.

“I think somebody made a mistake,” Lawler said.

Eason said the grant will also provide assistance to people who want to leave blighted areas and relocate elsewhere in the city.

“It’s a holistic approach whereby the city and the Land Bank identify and relocate people into good areas,” he said. “It’s an opportunity to talk about a lot of different ideas and approaches.”

But moving people within the city is a sensitive issue for some.

Ryals, who’s lived in the same house for 40 years, said the city should think very carefully about how it plans to offer relocation assistance.

“That might be a politically bad move,” he said. “We’re the ones keeping a neighborhood going. Without us, what’s a neighborhood going to be?”


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