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York Boulevard will go two way from Bay to Victoria not Queen to Victoria.
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York Boulevard will go two way from Bay to Victoria not Queen to Victoria.
So the Spec was wrong...
Wasn't it John Burman that also wrote about the fight on the "Main Street" (ie King) bus last year? More well-researched news.
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Renovation done by Thanksgiving

June 09, 2010
Mary K. Nolan
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http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/784809

The end is nigh.

A $14.4-million renovation of the Hamilton Farmers' Market and Central Library is two-thirds complete and expected to be done by Thanksgiving -- on time and within budget.

Motorists on York Boulevard have been alternately incensed by ongoing traffic congestion around the construction site and intrigued by the unique glass curtain that forms the new facade of the 30-year-old building.

It will become even more distinctive on completion of the installation of LED lighting.

What now looks like vertical blinds from the outside are actually 2.5 metre high strips of lights that can be programmed in unlimited colours and configurations.

They're similar to the lights that illuminate the CN Tower in Toronto, says chief librarian Ken Roberts.

The highly cost- and energy-efficient lights will add a lively and animated look to the exterior of the library/market complex, says Roberts.

In off-hours, when interior lighting is powered down, there's potential for the library to look like a darkened hulk, but the LED system will allow it to look "very exciting" from the outside, says Roberts.

Selection of new furnishings, which have to be colourful, comfortable, durable and sanitary, is almost complete, but Roberts will allow only that it's "fun" stuff.

A feature that library patrons will notice immediately is at the library entrances from Jackson Square and York Boulevard.

The vestibule area that was a completely separate space from the library itself will become part of the library with obvious displays of books, DVDs and other library materials.

"People walking through from Jackson Square or York weren't really in the library," says Roberts. "With security and turnstiles and elevators around the corner, it was a long time before you knew you were in a library. Now you'll not only know you're in it, you'll actually be in it."

The library will have a huge "green wall," with plants climbing to the ceiling and a public access computer area that will be divided into quiet space and a section for less quiet activity.

Some of the glass will double as projection screens where special exhibits or the works of local artists can be electronically shown.

"The library has good bones," says Roberts. It's not a building we're working against ... it's a building we're working with."

The biggest noticeable difference in the market will be the addition of a "spine" that runs east and west down the middle of the vendors' space.

The wall will be about 1.5 metres high, says Anna Bradford, the city's director of culture, and contain water and electrical access for all the stallholders -- something they've never had before.

The old market was built to replicate the original outdoor market where farmers would drive in to sell their products from the back of their trucks. So there were no sinks and very limited electrical connections, says Bradford, who's heard stories of vendors having to wash fruits in the bathrooms.

She's excited about the addition of a community room and kitchen, where cooking classes, nutrition education, birthday parties and other events can be held.

The market will have more natural light, better artificial lighting and improved restrooms.

Road work started May 31 that will convert York Boulevard to two-way street between James and Bay, add a bicycle lane, remove about 12 metered parking spaces and permanently close the south traffic lane to accommodate a new nine-metre wide sidewalk in front of the market building.

"I'm very excited," Bradford says of the whole project.

"I believe the market can be a real catalyst for downtown. I believe in buying local. I believe in the market experience."
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City PSA...

One Hour Free Parking at York Boulevard Parkade for
Hamilton Farmers’ Market Patrons Ending July 1, 2010


Hamilton ON – June 10, 2010 – The Hamilton Farmers’ Market today announced that one hour of free parking at the York Boulevard Parkade (28 York Blvd.) is available to Market patrons until Wednesday, June 30, 2010. As of July 1, regular hourly rates will apply for everyone parking at the Parkade.

In order to achieve a maximum 2% increase in the 2010 City budget, several municipal programs had to be reduced or eliminated. One of programs considered was the one hour free parking for Market patrons. The direct cost of providing the free parking cost taxpayers between $100K and $200K annually. Council approved eliminating this program as part of the overall 2010 budget approval.

The City will be letting the public know about the change through posters and postcards distributed at the Market and Parkade. The communications will include helpful tips on parking near the market and green commuting options. The signs at the Parkade will change on July 1.

There are several affordable Municipal Car Parks conveniently situated near the market:

96 James St N at Wilson
Hourly: $1.50; Minimum: $0.50

80 Main St W – Convention Centre
Hourly: $2.50; Minimum: $1.25; Daily: $8.00

14 Vine St.
Hourly: $2.00; Minimum: $1.00; Daily: $6.00

106 Bay St N and Cannon
Daily: $5.00

28 York Boulevard
Hourly: $2.50; Minimum: $1.25; Daily: $6.00

Bay and King
Hourly: $2.00; Minimum: $1.00; Daily: $7.00

In addition to car parks, there are many parking meters around the market vicinity. Please note these helpful tips:

• There is FREE on-street meter parking on Saturdays in downtown Hamilton.

• Meters take all coins except pennies. For a quick errand, you don't need to put in the full dollar amount; just insert the amount you need. For example, if you need 15 minutes, a quarter will do.

The City is also encouraging residents and market patrons to go “green”! Using public transit, biking and walking are also great for getting around downtown and visiting the Market. The Smart Commute Hamilton website (http://cms1.smartcommute.ca/hamilton/) contains more information on commuting in the city.

The temporary Hamilton Farmers’ Market in Jackson Square is open during Market renovations and the York Boulevard road conversion work. Market hours are Tuesday and Thursday, 7am-6pm; Friday, 8am-6pm; and Saturday 6am-6pm. The Market will be closed on Canada Day (Thursday, July 1).

For information about the Hamilton Farmers’ Market, call 905-546-2096 or visit www.hamilton.ca.
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Yeah... my thoughts exactly. The hour of free parking was a huge incentive for people coming from the burbs.
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So the Spec was wrong...
Wasn't it John Burman that also wrote about the fight on the "Main Street" (ie King) bus last year? More well-researched news.
Rarely a day goes by that I don't send in a correction to a spec article.
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That's ok. They've been doing this one right and I'm OK if it takes a little longer.

Maybe we can have some new ads that don't have American money in them...
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That's ok. They've been doing this one right and I'm OK if it takes a little longer.

Maybe we can have some new ads that don't have American money in them...
Agreed. Isn't much longer anyway, and if it'll result in a more polished end result, I'm all for it.
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Reno squeezes some vendors out of Hamilton Farmers’ Market

Emma Reilly
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...farmers-market

Market vendors feel squeeze Shane Coleman, front, and brother Ben Coleman are upset the city won't let their Dilly's organic produce stall back into the Hamilton Farmers Market following renovation.
Barry Gray/The Hamilton Spectator
Two dozen longtime stallholders are losing their spots at the newly renovated Hamilton Farmers’ Market.

The vendors say they’re outraged that people who have been doing business at the market for years — sometimes decades — have been given two months’ notice that they will no longer have a place to sell their products when vendors return to the space at York and MacNab streets, near the library, in January.

“The way they’re doing things is deplorable,” said Gord Williams, a farmer and vendor. “You don’t just throw people out on the street after 50, 60 years. This is how they build the downtown core? Throw people out on the street?”

But the city says building code requirements mean there are fewer stalls available and a new vision for the market means diversifying the products and emphasizing local food. It also says seniority doesn’t mean a vendor is selling high-quality goods.

“It’s getting back to not having significant number of people not selling the exact same thing. It’s not just about bringing everybody back — it’s about changing the dynamic,” said Anna Bradford, the city’s director of culture. “Seniority does not equate to quality.”

Before the renovations, the city’s market held 172 stalls. However, during the renovations the city added more washrooms — a building code requirement — and a community kitchen for classes and workshops. Now, there’s only space for 146 stalls.

To determine who would make the cut, the city asked all current vendors to fill out an application and invited applications from the community. Forty-eight vendors were selected: nine new vendors and 39 current stallholders. Twenty-three current stallholders were not selected to return. Letters were sent out on Friday alerting vendors of the city’s decision, and most stallholders received their letters on Monday.

The selection process was made through a points system, Bradford said. Representatives from several agencies, including the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs, Farmers’ Markets Ontario and local food organizations were asked to rate the applications based on several categories. Among the categories were local farming, worth 30 points; previous market experience, worth 5 points; and a completed application, worth 25 points.

The process has drawn ire from vendors such as Charlie Chiarelli, whose family has been running a market stand for 45 years. He buys produce from the Ontario Food Terminal for his stand and was not accepted ace. He says he’s planning to appeal the city’s decision.

“I’m going to fight right to the end,” he said.

Shane and Dilly Coleman’s family has had a stall in the market since the 1830s. With the help of other family members, the father-son team runs two stands, one selling organic Ontario produce and the other selling dried food. The dried food stand was accepted into the new market space; the produce stand wasn’t.

Shane Coleman, a recent city council candidate and president of the stallholders association, says he’s calling a general meeting for all vendors Friday. He says the vendors aren’t allowed to see their scores and weren’t consulted during the process. He’s now considering launching a class-action lawsuit against the city.

“We’re uniting the stallholders to work together as a group to say what the city’s proposing is unacceptable,” he said.

But not all vendors are outraged. Ron Jepson, who runs Jepson’s Fresh Meats, says though he disagrees with longtime vendors losing their spots, some of the changes are for the better.

“There are some people in here selling below-quality items. That hurts us all. Through this change, they’re going to eliminate that,” he said. “I like to look at the positive side.”

Bradford says it’s not correct that scores are being kept secret and stresses that all vendors are “more than welcome” to make an appointment with city staff to review the decision. She argues the city has also held a myriad of meetings since the renovation process began in 2006.

She points out the market loses an average of $300,000 a year, and vendors pay between $5,000 and $6,000 in rent.

“Over the years, there were many vendors selling the exact same things — and a lot of it was coming through the Ontario food terminal,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is make decisions that are based on the customer. Lots of variety, lots diversity of fresh products, and valuing local farmers and food producers.”
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Why don't they just rename the place to the Hamilton Farmers Supermarket. It's not a real Farmers market and hasn't been since they built that place.

When I was a kid I used to go to the old outdoor market there all the time with my grandmother. It was a real farmers market back then with real farmers selling products grown on their own farms. My grandmother used to buy live chickens and cart them home in a shopping bag on the bus. It was a place where you could haggle over the price. Now they are overpriced and too commercialized for my liking.

If you want a real Farmers Market go to the one on Ottawa St.
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They had said earlier that some people might lose thier stalls, but I was really surprised to see it was two dozen.

I'm also surprised that there are 172 stalls currently. It certainly doesn't seem like that many vendors are there.
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I actually think this is a positive step. If a number of the stalls are simply going to the Ontario Food Terminal for their produce, you're simply buying the same stuff from different stands.
Variety in a market is key.
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Why not keep the rejected vendors at the current Farmers' Market at Jackson Square?
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Speaking of the current location, what was there before the Farmer's Market? Was all that space sitting there unused?
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Yep, that was all vacant mall real estate. With all that unused space it's a shame anyone has to get the boot.
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Yale closed up a huge portion of the mall, when the City allowed property owners a discount on taxes if the land was vacant. It's also why the top ten floors of Stelco Tower are dark.

I believe this change in taxes came in effect around the early 90s. Just after the peak of Hamilton... around 1993ish since the early 90s recession, this city has never recovered, it's gone downwards in almost every metric.... and no mayor has done a damn thing about it, knowing full well you can't touch this, why? Well the same reason why you can't touch area-rating. That means the end to your political career (and in Hamilton a politician is definitely a life-long career with a pension).

This is what Hamilton gets when about 5 guys own about 90% of downtown .... they get together go to the mayor's chief of staff and City Manager, all together demand a discount on property taxes, because it's vacant land .... and o ya if you do what we ask, you'll get on our Christmas Card list.

We bloody well know that that Aerotropolis land will be cul de sacs in 5 years. I just hope Bratina can somehow reverse 'green' Fred's decision.

Try and buy land in Mount Hopeless right now ... I dare you to look into it. The same name speculators that own this city's staff own that land. (I have a bit of hope with Chris Murray and our new police chief DeCaire). These are the only guys that aren't on the certain Christmas Card lists... and so far I love these guys. That they will help make a difference and actually help us see that corner that we are supposed to be turning.

So, for fun, let's see the GDP, downtown population and jobs numbers from 2010 and 1985 for Hamilton, can someone do that? No. You know why, because we're down on every single metric. 25 years being considered a generation.. and look them and say, Hamilton did not lose an entire generation... and we're losing the next generation too.

I would like Bratina to post those numbers.... and measure his success from 1985 metrics. If anyone thinks downtown is doing great, they were never downtown in the 80s, or 90s. (Note: I worked in Jackson Square in 90s and at the Tivoli - a still vancant shithole since it 'fell' down ten years ago?) I wasn't alive prior to 70s that but downtown was even better from what I read and hear in the 70s, 60s, and 50s. Everyone likes to say "we're not going back the 50s", guess what?.... I'd love for Bratina to take us back to the prosperity of the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s that Hamilton enjoyed.

Hamilton was doing better in the 50s than the 2000s. We had a thriving downtown, tons of retail, destinations, people, stuff to do and OMG an electric Street Car network... Holy Crap... like LRT!!...ya just like our proposed LRT... but even better it was electric!.... omg no way... that would be like going back to the future. That's right son we need to go back to the 60s. But I thought Hamilton sucked in the 60s? What? Hamilton sucked in the 60s? Are you kidding? We've doubled our amount of roads and traffic lights in only the last 15 years (see the budget numbers) since 1960 but haven't doubled in population. But we seem to be on a good path, all we need to do is keep doing what we're doing. Just like a former mayor said, that we're on the right path. Keep doing it, keep doing it. Hamilton is just on the cusp of its potential. Guess what, in another 50 years Hamiltonians will be saying the same thing.. we're almost there, just keep trying. Hamilton could have been a Toronto or Montreal 80 years ago, now we aspire to be a Brantford or Port Colborne.... or worse a Mississauga, which is were we will end up.

Let's never go back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, we had electric street cars, a safe, alive thriving downtown with lots of things to do and places to go and people to see.

Sooooo, back to our tax policy that went into effect in the 90s... it actually pays you to sit on your vacant downtown land and speculate that a Harry Stinson or someone will come along and buy the land beside you and actually build something so that your land goes up in value.

When actually the City should do the opposite and charge you more for it being vacant.


In Hamilton we incentify downtown land owners to actually keep their land vacant, even if it has a building, so long as it has no tenants ... you get a reduction in taxes.

Just wait for a public-funded, tax-payer, development to come along. A Farmers' Market perhaps a library, or maybe if you're lucky a Public Housing or Meth Clinic.

While we're at it, let's allow them to make it a parking lot to pay for the property tax .... so long as they pay something to the City .... but still tax the land as vacant property.... even if it makes a profit as a parking lot.

Why is downtown a shithole again?
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Actually another city did something similar to this, it allowed a discount in property taxes if the land was used as "agricultural".

The city is called Detroit.
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I actually agree with bigguy, in that, it's hardly a farmers' market. If I can buy bananas, and citrus fruit, I don't think it's from local farms. The raspberries best-before date is 24 hours.

Shwarmas and whatever from Brumptum, cheese and meat trucked-in on evil petroleum fuel from Quebec.... ya.. that's a local farmers' market.

IT"S CALLED SOBEYS, in the Meadowlands. On Golf Links Road, just take the RedHill Expressway, exit at the Lincoln Alexander Parkway, then exit just before the 403 highway at Golf Links Road, continue another kilometer in your SUV and you'll see a humungus parking lot, lots of free parking and inside enjoy food from waaay beyond the 100-mile diet, foods from all over the world. Citrus, bananas, pomegranates from Egypt, at any time of the year. It's wonderful.

Or take the electric street car.... no... it doesn't exist..? ahh too bad. Ride your bike.... it's only February.
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