Lister Block | ? | 6 fl | Renovation - Page 9

DC83 · #**161** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:06 PM**

^^ uh oh... is it a call-in show??

raisethehammer · #**162** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:09 PM**

if they're going to buy it they had better insist that the ground floor be retail.
LIUNA had axed the retail component in their most recent plans.

SteelTown · #**163** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:09 PM**

Yep

SteelTown · #**164** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:16 PM**

Hearing Mayor Fred? He's concerned about the parking if the City does move into the Lister Block. He says the replica is still on the table as City Council already approved it. He said office space for the first floor, not as retail.

realcity · #**165** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:22 PM**

of course LIUNA cancelled the retail. They want to gut the interior to nothing but floor plates and support columns. then lay down some berber carpet over the subfloor housing all the wiring for the computers and then install overhead flourescent lighting.

Who cares if its a historical building when inside it will look just like any floor of a 90s office building.

It will be gutted from the inside and to me that's the same as demolishing it.

realcity · #**166** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:24 PM**

parking? omg

this deal sucks. What would a 'renovation' involve from LIUNA? sweeping the floor and painting the walls for $20 million.

they need every available inch to accommodate all the staff, that's why the retail is gone.

SteelTown · #**167** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 2:50 PM**

Part of the renovation that LIUNA said in the past the aracade or the main floor will not be gutted. Just the rest of the floors will be.

DC83 · #**168** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:11 PM**

Parking would be an issue??
Where's that Google Earth diagram of downtown w/ all the highlighted parking lots? Someone needs to email that to Fred! There's a friggin parking lot right across the street!!!

Mayor Fred is so off!

realcity · #**169** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:11 PM**

Someone tell me how emptying out The Right House to save the Lister makes sense. After Public Health leaves Right House, the only thing left is Tim Hortons. And Tim's will probably move to a kiosk on the ground floor. Thus giving the 'retail' component for Lister.

Won't we be emptying one building for another?

DC83 · #**170** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:12 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown

Part of the renovation that LIUNA said in the past the aracade or the main floor will not be gutted. Just the rest of the floors will be.

ya, but what's the point of having an arcade if there's no retail?
Are you going to stroll down it looking at the frosted windows for the offices?
Makes no sense...

realcity · #**171** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown

Part of the renovation that LIUNA said in the past the aracade or the main floor will not be gutted. Just the rest of the floors will be.

we'll see. I don't believe it.

The building will look like this inside.

Is this historical?

SteelTown · #**172** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:17 PM**

Quote:

ya, but what's the point of having an arcade if there's no retail?
Are you going to stroll down it looking at the frosted windows for the offices?
Makes no sense...

That's the point, the first floor is open for the public, meaning all office space on the first floor will be dealing with customers like an office space for paying your parking fines, getting a marriage license, etc. Basically a one stop centre for everything you need from the City. The rest of the building will be private for workers only.

realcity · #**173** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:17 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC83

ya, but what's the point of having an arcade if there's no retail?
Are you going to stroll down it looking at the frosted windows for the offices?
Makes no sense...

Exactly. The building will be locked up and dark at 4:31 pm

realcity · #**174** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown

^ That's the point, the first floor is open for the public, meaning all office space on the first floor will be dealing with customers like an office space for paying your parking fines, getting a marriage license, etc. The rest of the building will be private for workers only.

Really I thought it was for public health. First floor is for standing in line to have your head checked for lice?

SteelTown · #**175** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:21 PM**

The Public Health department is going to where the School Board is.

realcity · #**176** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:31 PM**

Who's going into Lister? or was supposed to?

SteelTown · #**177** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:37 PM**

Instead of building an extension at City Hall for phase 2 (suppose to happen around 2014) I'm assuming they'll just use the Lister Block as part of City Hall.

raisethehammer · #**178** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:40 PM**

brutal...this is a friggin joke.
with no street retail, they are completely butchering this thing. what else would I expect from LIUNA and HiRise.
I'll tell you one thing, if Fred doesn't get his act together he's certainly lost this vote next election.
Go check out the new city office space in the old Eatons next to farmers market...that's what Lister will look like at James and King William. Brutal!!

realcity · #**179** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:40 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown

Instead of building an extension at City Hall for phase 2 (suppose to happen around 2014) I'm assuming they'll just use the Lister Block as part of City Hall.

Yes, but who was the intended tenant for Lister? Public Health.

SteelTown · #**180** Posted **Jan 11, 2008, 3:44 PM**

Public Health, they backed out instead for the School Board site. Makes more sense as it'll be located next to the new medical centre.