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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 2:24 AM
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Anyone go to the open house about the 170 St. work to be done next year? wondering what they are proposing?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 2:26 AM
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Remember Oxford? 240glt, one of those new forum members, was saying something about a 24-32 storey tower by Oxford in that parking lot between the Bell tower and the Greyhound Station. However, I must stress that he was speculating at that.

Isn't Mandel on a trip to China or something?? I remember seeing in the Journal about a litle teaser in an article stating that he's probably got a couple of big announcements to make when he gets back. Better hope it's way better than what Reimer came up with when she made a trip to Taiwan/China once years ago! (don't ask me if I remember exactly what, but I remember that it was disappointing compared to to other mayors did on their overseas biz trips to promote their cities!)
Her big announcement was that Shaw left the city and the "too many cats" bylaw passed.

(....dark days in Edmonton's history...)
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 2:49 AM
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Her big announcement was that Shaw left the city and the "too many cats" bylaw passed.

(....dark days in Edmonton's history...)
That probably was it, though I remember all too well both of these.

BTW, how was your trip to Vancouver?
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 3:12 AM
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no that cant be true. Look at this Russian block!


Man! We DONT need a GLUT like this in our CITY CENTER! Who wants to live in a FACTORY!?!? NOT ME!!!!
Wait. The building design may be L-shaped. I dont think the walls of the two diagrams at the bottom are lined up with the rest of the building. You can also tell by the roofing at around the the third floor. Also, the Meridean does have curtain walls. I got a feeling the the curtain wall corner of the building is either rounded like downtown sobeys or diagonal.

If they use brick or decorative marble, then I like this building because I can start thinking of Paris. If it's all stucco, then yes it's just another Russian block.

I think the top left diagram (the good side) is facing east along 111 St while the bottom left will face south toward parts of the Devonian Building.

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 3:17 AM
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The building is definitely L-shaped but the roof still makes it looks like a fatter version of Peregrine Point. There`s just no imagination there at all.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 3:36 AM
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Worse comes to worse if they use stucco

Like I said, it can be beautiful if bricks are used. Let's just wait until we can see the colour of the Meridian. IMO, I think Altavista towers are more of an eyesore than the Meridian.

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 3:52 AM
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If they use brick or decorative marble, then I like this building because I can start thinking of Paris. If it's all stucco, then yes it's just another Russian block.

I think the top left diagram (the good side) is facing east along 111 St while the bottom left will face south toward parts of the Devonian Building.
To make it look like Paris, everything about it would need to be changed; particularily the balconies and the windows.. and pretty much everything.

This is Paris (I took this photo )


The Meridian is NOT Paris! No Matter how much Marble you use. Marble cannot fix a building that has no, I repeat, NO architectural inspiration. I could have made the same building with a milk container, a pair of scissors and some duct tape. Hell, my morning @#$# has more inspiration that this dump.

This is JUST another unimaginative, boring, sloppy, non-unique, uninspired, bland, typical crap, sorry excuse for a building. Why anyone would choose to live in it is beyond me.

If this thing gets built I swear to god I'm going to cry. I will publicly admit that the Venetian looks like the Taj Mahal compared to this mistake.

Lets start to place bets on the color of its roof? I say green.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 3:56 AM
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Worse comes to worse if they use stucco

Like I said, it can be beautiful if bricks are used. Let's just wait until we can see the colour of the Meridian. IMO, I think Altavista towers are more of an eyesore than the Meridian.
I'm sorry, but this is the exact same reason why crap like this gets built. People like (Murman word is erupting!!!) Mediocrity.. This thing goes beyond Mediocrity. It's atrocity!

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Would be neat. That lot needs to go
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"Hi, this is the EDC. I know we don't have any authority over this building. I just wanted to remind you that at some point you will have to come forward and face us. Keep that in mind as you proceed. This will be brought up every time you come to see us.

Whether that's a good or a bad thing is 100% up to you.

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My gut tells me that the Meridan will be an extension of the existing seniors residence across the street from it. Could someone confirm if this is the case?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 5:39 PM
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anyone have a link to info on this 130 story Enigma building?
     
     
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There's an article today by Lisa Rochon in the Globe about Calgary's downtown. Even though this is an Edmonton thread it's still fairly applicable. Nothing new here, although she manages to make it sound like both a sterile dead zone and some kind of lawless favela. The obvious moral of the story: "Make your downtown better." Thank's for the tip, Lisa!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061108.wxrochon08/BNStory/Entertainment/home
     
     
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City may park idea of Southgate park-and-ride lot
Susan Ruttan, The Edmonton Journal

Published: Thursday, November 09, 2006

EDMONTON - City council may solve its park-and-ride problem at the planned Southgate LRT station by simply not building a park-and-ride lot there, The Journal has learned.

Council next week is expected to consider a committee recommendation to skip the park-and-ride at Southgate Centre, leaving commuters to drive down to the next stop, at Century Place, to park their cars.

The city has had trouble finding a site for the Southgate park-and-ride. The initial plan was to put the site on the shopping centre parking lot, above a new Southgate extension. That deal fell through in a dispute over Southgate's asking price.


Malmo residents rally Wednesday at City Hall to voice their concerns about the city's possible expropriation of their homes for an LRT parking lot.
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Font: ****The alternative, expropriating homes across from Southgate Mall in the Malmo Plains neighbourhood to build a park-and-ride, is being resisted strongly by Malmo residents.

About 50 Malmo residents, many of them elderly, rallied at City Hall Wednesday afternoon to press council to spare their homes.

They presented the two ward councillors, Bryan Anderson and Mike Nickel, with a scrapbook made by residents to show their attachment to Malmo.

Both councillors support the option of skipping the park-and-ride at Southgate.

"I don't think we need park-and-ride at Southgate," Nickel said. "It just didn't make sense to me or Coun. Anderson that you whack people's homes so people can park their cars."

Anderson said Southgate's owners, Ivanhoe Cambridge, have been talking again in recent weeks with the city about a possible deal.

"We want to turn over every rock," he said. "We want to make sure that every possible option has been looked at."

The original south LRT extension plan proposed 1,000 park-and-ride stalls be put at Southgate, which is a major transit centre already, and another 1,200 at Century Place, the new condo development going up at 111th Street and 23rd Avenue.

Century Park has welcomed the LRT and is willing to have more park-and-ride stalls at its site.

Edmonton Transit's light rail transit plan is to add four more stations past the Health Sciences Station by the end of 2009, with Century Park the final stop.

Alex Khan, spokesman of the Malmo residents' group, told the rally Wednesday that free park-and-ride is a subsidy to car drivers, encouraging car use and urban sprawl.

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 6:08 PM
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Globetrotting business writers impressed with city
Upcoming article on Alberta will reach influential worldwide audience
Gary Lamphier, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Thursday, November 09, 2006
Gabriel Gutierrez and Mieke Hesemans jet around the planet about as frequently as you or I drive to the local corner store for milk.

Now, the two young globetrotters have landed here in Alberta, where they've begun researching an upcoming report on the province's red-hot economy.

As editorial staffers for London-based Insight Publications, which produces international feature reports for U.S.-based Forbes magazine -- one of the world's most influential business publications -- Gutierrez and Hesemans have what most writers would describe as dream jobs.


Edmonton from a new angle?
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Font: ****Gutierrez, who was born in Mexico and studied international economics in London before joining Insight last year, has worked on special projects on Kazakhstan, Tanzania, Serbia and Trinidad-Tobago.

Hesemans, who is from Belgium, completed applied economics and MBA degrees before joining Insight's staff in 2004. Since then, she's travelled to a dozen countries, producing reports on everything from Islamic banking in the Middle East to the Quebec economy.

The latter is due to hit the newstands in December.

On Tuesday, I caught up with the two bright-eyed twentysomethings over coffee here in Edmonton, where they've spent most of the past 10 days interviewing local execs and politicians. The list includes Epcor boss Don Lowry, PCL chief Ross Grieve, Alberta Energy Minister Greg Melchin, and Edmonton Mayor Stephen Mandel, among others.

The Insight team's upcoming report -- tentatively titled Alberta: Investing In The Future -- will be distributed to some 2.5 million Forbes readers sometime next spring. Millions more will read it online, at www.forbes.com.

It's a big, powerful and important audience by any measure, and one that could boost Edmonton's profile on the international map.

Some 206,000 Forbes readers boast household assets of $3 million US or more; 242,000 are millionaires; 218,000 are CEOs; and 58,000 are chief investment officers. In total, the investment pros who read Forbes manage a staggering $14.5 trillion worth of assets.

"Alberta is internationally known for oil and gas, and people know Calgary due to the (1988) Olympic Games," says Heseman, who admits she's having a tough time adjusting to the chilly Alberta weather.

"So they know Alberta is very hot, it's booming, and there's cowboys and oil here. But there must be so much more."

Indeed there is, as she and her partner have quickly discovered. And although they're slated to head to Calgary on Friday, where they'll set up camp for the next few weeks, Gutierrez and Hesemans vow to return to Edmonton, a city that has pleasantly surprised them.

Although they knew it was the provincial capital, they didn't know Edmonton is also Alberta's manufacturing centre, the province's oil refining and petrochemical hub, the banking, biotech and retailing capital, and the leading health care and post-secondary education centre.

Now they know better. "I'm very surprised with Edmonton," says Hesemans. "We knew it was the political capital, but that was it."

"Edmonton has much more to offer than that. I'm gladly surprised."

Typically, when major U.S. media outlets dispatch reporters to chronicle Alberta's booming economy -- as The Wall Street Journal did last summer, and USA Today did last year -- their research seldom extends beyond the office towers of downtown Calgary or the strip mines of Fort McMurray.

So give Forbes some credit. Instead of engaging in the usual drive-by analysis, Gutierrez and Heseman will spend a couple of months in the province, doing their best to get behind the headlines so they understand the magnitude -- and the sustainability -- of Alberta's economic boom.

And as they now know, Alberta has two major business centres, not one.


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Connect2Edmonton (www.connect2edmonton.ca), an informal online community of city boosters formed last March with the support of EEDC (Edmonton Economic Development Corp.), wants to hear from you.

Until Saturday, Nov. 18, C2E's members are invited to contribute their ideas and comments by posting on the website's Great Ideas for a Greater Edmonton forum. Those who do are eligible to win airfare for two to London, England, courtesy of Edmonton Airports.

A top-10 list of "the most transformational ideas" for Greater Edmonton will be compiled by C2E's volunteers, and unveiled in early December. The site currently boasts some 580 members in nine countries. Anyone can register for free.

Ideas can be submitted online, or by visiting the C2E's display booth at the Shaw Conference Centre's open house on Nov. 18, from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.

Forget drive-by journalism. Now the folks at Bloomberg News are practising why-even bother-driving-there journalism.

A story the wire service carried Wednesday, entitled Oil Boom May Be Fueling Homicide Surge in Alberta's capital, was written by a reporter in (wait for it) Ottawa, and handled by an editor in (you guessed it) Toronto.

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Have you guys contributed your "ideas" to the C2E contest yet? I just added mine. I'd be interested to hear what you think of it:

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1172
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 6:38 PM
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Great article on the Forbes Writers...

As for Southgate...IT NEEDS A PARK AND RIDE...simple as that.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2006, 6:47 PM
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yeah, with the 'mud right there, it's stupid to think otherwise. I'm sure people will just park in Southgate's lot, and then it will all start to hit the fan.

As per C2E, not yet... but I should.
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