What Is The Weather Today? (No Mercury Jockeying!)

[wave46]

Let the weather pissing match begin!

[esquire]

Originally Posted by wave46

Let the weather pissing match begin!

What are you talking about, it's been going on for years here...

[wave46]

Originally Posted by esquire

What are you talking about, it's been going on for years here...

Fair, but this is now "the Prairies" versus "Southern Ontario" chapter starting again.

I await with bated breath to who can twist weather statistics into 'winning'.

Will we extend the boundaries of region to such dubious size that they win?
Will someone bust out the 'humidex' argument?
Will someone drop the bomb that the US 'heat index' accounts differently?
Will someone dig up a fact that in 1941 or whatever, such and such a place had the hottest day?
Will we go into the 'mean temperatures' argument?

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by wave46

Fair, but this is now "the Prairies" versus "Southern Ontario" chapter starting again.

I await with bated breath to who can twist weather statistics into 'winning'.

Will we extend the boundaries of region to such dubious size that they win?
Will someone bust out the 'humidex' argument?
Will someone drop the bomb that the US 'heat index' accounts differently?
Will someone dig up a fact that in 1941 or whatever, such and such a place had the hottest day?
Will we go into the 'mean temperatures' argument?

There is nothing like a good old weather contest initiated by SaskScraper and his second account.

[Denscity]

38 days at or above 30C.
9 days at 29C.
Highest high 37.4C

[Skygazer]

Saskatoon has had 9 days over 30 degrees this year, between late May and a couple days ago.

So we have in fact had 5 months this year with a record high above 30, and I imagine this is the case in many other parts of Saskatchewan, but that's definitely not the same as 120 days hitting 30C so I'm not sure why he brought that particular number up.

[flar]

We could look at something like crop heat units

Extreme SW Ontario: ~3800
Southern Saskatchewan: ~2500

For comparison:
Niagara Region: ~3700
Okanagan Valley: ~3100
Ottawa Valley: ~3000
Southern Manitoba: ~2700
Annapolis Valley: ~2700

https://climateatlas.ca/map/canada/chu_baseline

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Skygazer

Saskatoon has had 9 days over 30 degrees this year, between late May and a couple days ago.

So we have in fact had 5 months this year with a record high above 30, and I imagine this is the case in many other parts of Saskatchewan, but that's definitely not the same as 120 days hitting 30C so I'm not sure why he brought that particular number up.

It was just such a risible statement to make. There is nowhere in Canada that has anywhere near consistently that kind of heat.

If we're counting southern Arizona as part of the Prairies, I could see making such a claim. That's a different argument though.

[someone123]

Why would you even want 120 days of 30 degree temperatures? Many people who live in places like Arizona get sick of the summer heat. California is more desirable and LA mostly stays in the 20's in summer.

I don't get the competition over who hit 37 vs 40 degrees either. I'd rather have a day that is 0 than +40.

[craneSpotter]

15 to 16 and clearing in Victoria just before noon. Forecast for today is for a high of 18 with a mix of sun and cloud.

Yesterday was rainy once again - highs of 14 (Airport); 15 (UVic) & 16 (Langford). Lows were in double digits. I think the coolest day we've had this summer.

[Marty_Mcfly]

I just came home from work in rain, drizzle, fog, wind, and 8 degrees. Thankfully I need to drive to and from my new job, so the cold, stupid weather doesn't get to me as much. Back to seasonable weather tomorrow though.

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by someone123

Why would you even want 120 days of 30 degree temperatures?

Not surprising that the wording was confusing, but was the point of the poster in tropical Saskatchewan that there was a sum total of 120 30-degree days from all of the weather stations on the prairies? Meaning, Regina had 5 + Edmonton had 2 + Winnipeg had 8 etc. = 120?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by rousseau

Not surprising that the wording was confusing, but was the point of the poster in tropical Saskatchewan that there was a sum total of 120 30-degree days from all of the weather stations on the prairies? Meaning, Regina had 5 + Edmonton had 2 + Winnipeg had 8 etc. = 120?

What I understood was that there was a period of 120 days in a row where you could find at least one station somewhere on the Prairies where the temperature reached 30C.

Because I would suspect that the grand total of all of the 30-degree days at all stations on the Prairies would be a lot more than 120.

Most of southern Manitoba went above 30C 1-2 days this week. If you think there might be a dozen stations that would produce a "score" of "25" just in those two days.

[BradFromTO]

Nice day. 22 and sunny, perfect day for shooting some hoops outside

Just starting to see the first leaves turning colours. But still 99.9% green.

[Denscity]

The rain has begun and a high ofnonly 16C.

Average high for today 20.9C so way below normal.

[hipster duck]

Originally Posted by someone123

Why would you even want 120 days of 30 degree temperatures? Many people who live in places like Arizona get sick of the summer heat. California is more desirable and LA mostly stays in the 20's in summer.

120 consecutive days of anything is depressing. Even if there were 120 consecutive days of cloud-free, wind-free 22C days, most lawns would look like baked potatoes and most cities would be blanketed by dust and smog.

I don't get the competition over who hit 37 vs 40 degrees either. I'd rather have a day that is 0 than +40.

I prefer the heat to the cold, but there is a threshold above a certain temperature where things can get very unpleasant, very quickly. For everyone it’s different and for me it’s a humid 30 or a dry 35.

I would rather have a day of -20 than +40. I don’t think people realize what +40 is in the Canadian context; it is a record high temperature in the hottest parts of the country. In most Canadian cities a temperature of +40 would result in a few dozen deaths.

[flar]

Originally Posted by someone123

Why would you even want 120 days of 30 degree temperatures? Many people who live in places like Arizona get sick of the summer heat. California is more desirable and LA mostly stays in the 20's in summer.

I don't get the competition over who hit 37 vs 40 degrees either. I'd rather have a day that is 0 than +40.

Pretty much why I chose my current location. We have lots of days over 25, but only a few over 30. I like hot weather, but with our humidity, 30+ days are only good if you're beside a pool or at the beach. Work is impossible.

So far this year we've had 121 days over 20 and 80 over 25, but only 11 days over 30. Those numbers are actually a bit low, since May and June were total crap.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by hipster duck

120 consecutive days of anything is depressing. Even if there were 120 consecutive days of cloud-free, wind-free 22C days, most lawns would look like baked potatoes and most cities would be blanketed by dust and smog.

I know a lot of Californians, living in places like San Jose, who complain about this. The summer is long and monotonous and it gets very dusty and dirty after a few months with no rain. There are worse things to be sure but endless days of sun and heat aren't really ideal.

I mentioned this before but I think it's my least favourite aspect of Vancouver's climate. We can have this during dry summers (along with forest fires, though not so much this year) plus we have the monotonous winter rain during most years. If we got 2-3x the sun in the winter and 2x the rain in the summer the climate here would be quite good.

I like that you can rely on the weather being a certain way at certain times of the year (e.g. August long weekend is almost always nice here) but I think I'd rather have variety.

I would rather have a day of -20 than +40. I don’t think people realize what +40 is in the Canadian context; it is a record high temperature in the hottest parts of the country. In most Canadian cities a temperature of +40 would result in a few dozen deaths.

I've been in +40 a few times, once in the BC interior, but also in places like Mexico. Even in Mexico people don't do a lot outside when it's 40 degrees. It can be dangerous without AC, particularly for the elderly, and AC consumes a lot of power.

I like summer days that are around 22 and about 14 at night. Anything above that and my place becomes unpleasant and I put the AC on. I'm in a condo building that gets evening sun. A house wouldn't be as bad.

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by flar

So far this year we've had 121 days over 20 and 80 over 25, but only 11 days over 30.

So, uh...did one weather station in the Prairies somewhere actually have 120 days over 30 degrees? Or is pointless trying to clarify this little contretemps?

[flar]

Originally Posted by rousseau

So, uh...did one weather station in the Prairies somewhere actually have 120 days over 30 degrees? Or is pointless trying to clarify this little contretemps?

Pretty sure they meant there was a 120 period where 30 degree temperatures occured, non-consecutively. Crystal clear

In fairness, the southern prairies get around 20 days over 30 each year. It's a continental climate, so subject to extremes.