Salt Lake MSA Development Thread - Page 89

John Martin · #**1761** Posted **Nov 4, 2009, 10:13 PM**

That's good. I seriously had a dream last week that I went to In-n-out and got a double double at 4 AM because for some reason I had woken up and thought "I want a double double now!"

Green Bro · #**1762** Posted **Nov 4, 2009, 10:27 PM**

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I'll be at the Draper one.

Doing what? Working or first in line?

TonyAnderson · #**1763** Posted **Nov 4, 2009, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by John Martin

That's good. I seriously had a dream last week that I went to In-n-out and got a double double at 4 AM because for some reason I had woken up and thought "I want a double double now!"

Sure it was a dream?

StevenF · #**1764** Posted **Nov 4, 2009, 11:24 PM**

mmmmmmmmmmm, the fating of America.

Future Mayor · #**1765** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 12:17 AM**

And lusting for the national chains. I'll stick with Chadders if I want the IN n Out taste!

MetroFanatic · #**1766** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 2:02 AM**

I'm a fan of a hearty home-cooked meal.

wrendog · #**1767** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 3:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

And lusting for the national chains. I'll stick with Chadders if I want the IN n Out taste!

If Chadders hadn't gone down the toilet after a nice start, I would agree with you. Chadders hasn't put out a good product since they starting expanding. In n Out is always consistently good. Can't wait!

urbanboy · #**1768** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 4:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by MetroFanatic

I'm a fan of a hearty home-cooked meal.

You would like the Bayleaf Cafe then.

SLC Projects · #**1769** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 5:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

And lusting for the national chains. I'll stick with Chadders if I want the IN n Out taste!

Chadders will go under once the AF In n Out opens just down the street. Besides why would people want to eat at Chadders when they can have the real thing?

Neuroguy · #**1770** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 5:55 AM**

is that supporting a local "chain" is better than eating up all the national stuff that comes along. That being said, I will visit In N Out probably regularly, but I will continue to support Chadders too. As for the quality of Chadders I would agree with the statement regarding quality when referencing the AF location, but the one here in Provo is very good:clean store, fresh and consistent taste. I recently introduced it to some work buddies from Chicago. Since they have never had In N Out, I wonder if for them In N Out will now be the copy cat.

TonyAnderson · #**1771** Posted **Nov 5, 2009, 6:16 AM**

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I'm a fan of a hearty home-cooked meal.

That's soo 50 years ago.

Green Bro · #**1772** Posted **Nov 6, 2009, 9:43 PM**

Is there any new news on that 12 story building that might be getting built in Cottonwood Heights? I was in Cottonwood Heights the other day, driving on I-215 East bound and approaching the 6200 exit, I noticed a few buildings that looked pretty nice. I thought it would look really cool to see that 12 story building and maybe another around 15 story building. I think it would be neat to see Cottonwood Heights have their own little skyline. It's a beautiful area and a little skyline would look really neat with the mountains so close.

SLC Projects · #**1773** Posted **Nov 10, 2009, 5:22 PM**

oK, so what do you guys think about this development? I can see both sides to this story.

Proposal could change the way Big Cottonwood Canyon develops
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=8609402
COTTONWOOD HEIGHTS -- Is it prudent planning, or simply opening the door to a whole different kind of development in Big Cottonwood Canyon? That question comes as the city of Cottonwood Heights considers a land use ordinance that could affect the way the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon develops.
Several areas of Cottonwood Heights that have development potential would be influenced by the city's land use ordinance.
But city planner Michael Black says the area likely to be affected first is the stalled Tavaci development, located at the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon. Black says the city is at the front end of future land use questions.
"We're looking out to the future and saying, ‘Should it change? And if it were to change, what change would be the best for the city, the users, the property owners are concerned?' Black says.
Originally zoned for single-family homes, the Cottonwood Heights land use ordinance could open the door to condos, high-end hotel and retail space and restaurants. The guidelines are in the very early stages right now and are subject to intense scrutiny by the public and city council.
But groups like Save Our Canyons are watching closely. Save Our Canyons fought the original land rezoning and development of this road in court, but lost.
Allowing high-density projects here would "widen the scar on the mountainside," according to Jennifer Kecor, who is with Save Our Canyons.
"We just think that it would expand further development where maybe development isn't warranted. You know, expanding that scar," Kecor says.
Tavaci developer Terry Diehl says the city is pursuing this land use ordinance independently; Black confirmed that, acknowledging the tough fight Diehl endured to get the road built.
For the city, though, it's all about economic development in the future.
"Our general plan gives us a goal and objective to look at this area with an eye toward economic development, specifically with the ski industry," Black says.
The first draft of the land use ordinance will be unveiled to the public at Tuesday night's city council meeting at Cottonwood Heights. The begins at 7 p.m. at the Cottonwood Heights City Council Chamber, located at 1265 E. Fort Union Blvd.

Developers Website.
http://www.tavacislc.com/

Orlando · #**1774** Posted **Nov 10, 2009, 6:10 PM**

I think some reasonably sized mixed-use/hotel development at or near where the gravel pit is along Wasatch Blvd. would be great. But, I think once you've entered the Canyon area that should stop. I like the Tavaci single-family luxury house development up on that bench would be wonderful!

Green Bro · #**1775** Posted **Nov 10, 2009, 10:35 PM**

I'm all for the idea of that!!!!

Also, the Cottonwood Height business park will be interesting to watch too. They have a 12 story tower planned and more buildings as well.

John Martin · #**1776** Posted **Nov 11, 2009, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Green Bro

Is there any new news on that 12 story building that might be getting built in Cottonwood Heights? I was in Cottonwood Heights the other day, driving on I-215 East bound and approaching the 6200 exit, I noticed a few buildings that looked pretty nice. I thought it would look really cool to see that 12 story building and maybe another around 15 story building. I think it would be neat to see Cottonwood Heights have their own little skyline. It's a beautiful area and a little skyline would look really neat with the mountains so close.

It's funny how they would build a skyline so close to their border, and surrounded to the west, north, and east by another city. Most of those buildings are actually in Holladay. Here is a map of the boundary in that area, Cottonwood Heights in blue, and the proposed 12-story tower is in red. The rest is Holladay.

It gives you an idea of why this is such a sensitive area... it may technically be Cottonwood Heights, but it's not really their neighborhood they're affecting the most.

delts145 · #**1777** Posted **Nov 11, 2009, 2:38 PM**

True... but also keep in mind that the ultra upscale nature of the surrounding residential of Holladay and many of it's well heeled residents, are among the pushers of this Class A business park. This park gives it's surrounding residential clients some very convenient and attractive amenities. Also, this is the 'All American/Cotton Heights Way' of providing it citizens with an excellent tax base.

I say just keep the upscale commercial and residential development out of the Canyon itself. I'm happy, as long as I-215 and surrounding arterials are sufficient transportation to accomodate the influx.

i-215 · #**1778** Posted **Nov 11, 2009, 11:35 PM**

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I say just keep the upscale commercial and residential development out of the Canyon itself. I'm happy, as long as I-215 and surrounding arterials are sufficient transportation to accomodate the influx.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY!

Orlando · #**1779** Posted **Nov 12, 2009, 1:32 AM**

Nice. Without knowing you a little more I would have taken you seriously, especially with your namesake.

delts145 · #**1780** Posted **Nov 12, 2009, 2:54 PM**

Park City, Boyer Co. may team on development

Quinn's Junction » City Council expected to buy in on the 50/50 real estate deal.

By Christopher Smart
The Salt Lake Tribune

Park City is about to go into the real estate development business with The Boyer Co. -- partners straight up the middle in a big residential development.

This evening the City Council is expected to vote on a proposal that would buy the municipality a 50 percent stake in a 200-acre development at Park City's back door -- Quinn's Junction --- the intersection of U.S. Highway 40 and State Route 248.

For a cool $5.5 million, Park City would become co-developer in what has been dubbed Park City Heights. The development is zoned for about one residential unit per acre. Potential profits could be in the millions.

The proposal comes after long months of behind-the-scenes negotiations, and officials on both sides say it's a winning solution for the project that already is five years on the drawing board.

Park City Mayor Dana Williams said profit motive is not the city's main focus.

"With this [partnership], we can go in and have a lot more say in one of the final parcels on our eastern entry corridor," Williams said. "We want the entry statement to be something this community can be proud of."

Among other things, the city will push for a larger mix of work-force housing, more open space and possibly even housing for the elderly.

If the real estate market turns around, the city could plow profits back into its capital budget or perhaps the purchase of more open space, the mayor said.

Such a partnership is unique for Park City, said Councilwoman Candy Erickson.

"There are no cons. It's all pros," Erickson said. "Boyer is an honorable partner. We want to decrease the [proposed] density, and they have signaled they're all right with that."

The proposal is the fruit of a Boyer Co. initiative. And the Salt Lake City-based developer is delighted to have the municipality on board, said project manager Patrick Moffat.

If the proposal passes, "the city becomes a player and it commits us to working together," Moffat said. "There is still a long road ahead, but we're committed to a quality project."

The proposal includes an option, according to a Park City staff report, that should push it forward. "If an agreement on the development plan is not reached within two years, Boyer can exercise a 'Put Option,' and the city will buy the remaining 50 percent interest [for] $5.5 million."

City officials have been concerned that a large development along Route 248 would add to an already congested entryway, said Phyllis Robinson, community affairs director.

A Park City/Boyer Co. partnership will give city planners more latitude in project design as well as mitigating its traffic, she said.

If the council adopts the agreement, a new planning phase will begin. There is no timetable for ground breaking.

What's in it for them
Boyer » gets its project annexed into Park City and receives water and other city services.

Park City » gets a bigger say in project design, including affordable housing and open space.