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Looking at the BioDistrict's master plan, it shows the new Loyola Streetcar line turning down Tulane Avenue for a block to connect with Rampart Street, instead of going down Loyola Avenue until Canal, then turning from Canal Street to Rampart Street and continuing down Rampart Street for the second phase.

I hope that's an error, because I liked the original plan better. Does anyone have an inside scoop?

http://biodistrictneworleans.org/wp-...g_02-04-11.jpg
No, the alignment hasn't changed. The BioDistrict's illustrator was just trying to simplify the plan for representation, I'm guessing; the current plan is kinda complex, splitting downriver traffic to the left of upriver traffic on a different street.

I like the alignment on the map better, actually... It keeps service in both directions on Rampart, so it's less confusing for people, and the two turns onto Tulane are easier to make than two turns onto Canal.
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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...ogh_no_11.html

I really hope this building can be saved, moved, or otherwise incorporated into the new hospital somehow. I know I've seen bigger buildings than this one moved before, so the only thing I fear is that the cost would be too great.

P.S. - Wouldn't it make a great new Civil Courthouse?

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Hi all, name should explain...

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the feeling that we're entering a second phase of rebuilding now? Except that this time the plans seem more realistic...

I have been reading these forums for 9 years, just finally registered.

Also, I feel like this post should probably have some substance, so let me point out two things; 1. When they compare census 2010 #'s to those of 2000, they take out St. John the Baptist... hence the 1.32 2000 # so often quoted, when our official pop for that one was 1.37.... and 2. I am moving to Mid-City based on an expected rise in value as of the date of completion of the hospital, so I may be a bit biased, but from my experience with the CDC, McDonogh 11 is way too small.

Anyway, I'm kind of a stats (census especially) geek, but I also have a great deal of interest in public transport, urban planning, etc... so I guess that's why I'm here.
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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...ogh_no_11.html

I really hope this building can be saved, moved, or otherwise incorporated into the new hospital somehow. I know I've seen bigger buildings than this one moved before, so the only thing I fear is that the cost would be too great.

P.S. - Wouldn't it make a great new Civil Courthouse?

I know this is long shot but I always thought that Building should be either mover or incorporated into the current master plan somehow and then given to the Deustch Hauss...
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I don't see why they can't move it to one of the sites planned for a parking lot.

Obviously the first phase requires the moving or demolition of McDonogh 11, but there's no reason that later phases can't be designed around the historic building if it were moved closer to Claiborne. I'm don't think it can be moved to the the BioDistrict's preferred school site at Tulane/Richardson, because the building can't fit under the I-10 viaduct.

Other than elsewhere on the LSU site, I'm not sure they can move it anywhere else. Individual homes are easy to move because there's a decent supply of vacant lots in the area. But a school requires at least half a block, or a full block if they can't leverage a nearby park for the recreational facilities.
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Hi all, name should explain...

Anyway, am I the only one who gets the feeling that we're entering a second phase of rebuilding now? Except that this time the plans seem more realistic...

I have been reading these forums for 9 years, just finally registered.

Also, I feel like this post should probably have some substance, so let me point out two things; 1. When they compare census 2010 #'s to those of 2000, they take out St. John the Baptist... hence the 1.32 2000 # so often quoted, when our official pop for that one was 1.37.... and 2. I am moving to Mid-City based on an expected rise in value as of the date of completion of the hospital, so I may be a bit biased, but from my experience with the CDC, McDonogh 11 is way too small.

Anyway, I'm kind of a stats (census especially) geek, but I also have a great deal of interest in public transport, urban planning, etc... so I guess that's why I'm here.
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After reading the story on The Lens about all the houses they have moved being essentially destroyed, I'm not sure moving the building would even be worth it.

http://thelensnola.org/2011/02/11/ho...-houses-moved/
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I'm sure many of the houses eventually will be renovated. The lots where they now stand are owned by the city, not by absentee slumlords, and the city has every incentive to sell them for pennies to developers who can fix them up for far less than the cost of building new. I'm personally interested in doing this kind of thing as soon as I graduate. It's just too good of an opportunity.

Take a typical shotgun double. I pick it up from the city for $1. It probably needs, say, $60000 of work (a new roof, new foundation, utility connections, fixing the damage from transport). If I can rent each side for $500 a month, then I get my investment back in only 5 years.

The loss of things like camelbacks and tall roofs is sad, but the city is full of structures that have had massive, unsympathetic modifications done to them. Camelbacks themselves are usually a later addition onto an even older house, so it's not some historical travesty if they get lost.
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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...ogh_no_11.html

I really hope this building can be saved, moved, or otherwise incorporated into the new hospital somehow. I know I've seen bigger buildings than this one moved before, so the only thing I fear is that the cost would be too great.

P.S. - Wouldn't it make a great new Civil Courthouse?

I have always thought that the Historic Trust and other Preservationist were a little misplaced in their fight against the VA and LSU hospitals. I usually tend to side with them due to my love of history and New Orleans architecture, but the importance of the hospitals, and considering the general condition of lower Mid-City and the city as a whole, justified the general demolition. But wouldn't a better fight for the National Historic Trust and other preservationist organizations from the start be to fight for the movement of some buildings and incorporation of other buildings or houses into the design rather than filing all those lawsuits trying to stop the construction of the hospital.

This school, along with the dixie brewery, the Green Mansion, some shotgun houses, and others are a good example of specific buildings that should be saved. And movement of those structures that can be moved to adjoining neighborhoods adds to the density of surrounding neighborhoods and would intensify the recovery of the neighborhood as the hospitals develop. Instead, the National Historic Trust and some others were fighting the State and LSU against the recovery of the city and medical services only for preservation of a few structures.

I think McDounough 11 should be saved no matter what. It is a great building that would add character to the hospitals. Be it incorporated into the design or raised to another site, but I'm afraid it is too late. These issues should have been raised a few years ago in order to make the design possible or to figure out a way to move it. If these organizations lended their support to the hospitals while requiring the preservation of some of the structures in the area, then they might have been able to provide more money and effort toward saving some structures and gaining support to save them by the VA, the State, and the City. Instead, huge fights and lawsuits just delayed the process.

I want to save as many structures as possible. But I'm afraid that the condition of the city, the future of the city, and the condition of medical services in the city warrant the construction of the hospitals at the expense of some of these structures. More shotgun houses will be saved all across town by saving the condition of the city and its economic status than by saving a few particular structures or a part of a neighborhood. Most shotgun houses in the neighborhood bit the dust because of several decades of economic downturn.

If we can push to save these structures, then lets do it. Is there money somewhere to do it? Can we force the VA or LSU to use it? I'm all for it, as long as it doesn't jeopordize the oportunity to build the VA or LSU. I am surprised that this school was not an issue before now. Why wasn't it a priority? It looks like a type of building that could easily be incorporated into the complex if time was taken to do it and if more people cared in the beginning.

My wife is currently 8 months pregnant yet there is only one hospital in the City of New Orleans that delivers babies. This is completely rediculous of a major metro area. I shouldn't have to leave my city of 350K people to have a baby. We need more hospital services, more groceries, better public transportation, and more basic services.
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This question is a technical one: how do you go about moving a structure that large, with that type of construction?

Also, could somebody give me even one example of a project where the surrounding buildings have been incorporated into the final build? I think there may have been a 15-story built downtown a few years ago, I'm just not sure... I fail to see how the facade of the Dixie Brewery can be saved without making the whole thing look cartoonish.
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we're losing both of our Borders:

http://www.publishersweekly.com/bina.../000/242-1.pdf

Metairie is on second page; St Charles is second-to-last
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I suspect Borders will cease to exist as a company in the very near future. They have not kept up with the change over to e-books.
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This question is a technical one: how do you go about moving a structure that large, with that type of construction?

Also, could somebody give me even one example of a project where the surrounding buildings have been incorporated into the final build? I think there may have been a 15-story built downtown a few years ago, I'm just not sure... I fail to see how the facade of the Dixie Brewery can be saved without making the whole thing look cartoonish.
Here is a rendering of how they plan to incorporate the old Dixie Brewery into the design. Now ideally I would prefer that the brewery be renovated and reopened as I really enjoy their beer, but this is a good "plan b" to me. And in reference to the new borders info, I would not be too surprised if Barnes and Nobles came into the louisiana location...

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I suspect Borders will cease to exist as a company in the very near future. They have not kept up with the change over to e-books.
I watched the first 20 years of Mardi Gras in my life standing in front of that building, so I think I'm qualified to comment here. I thank Borders for rescuing that building's facade for use in modern commerce. I wish they could've saved the interior, too, but whatever. That being said, I'm not all that sad to see Borders go, since I didn't find much use for it. Maybe something better will take its place. Any ideas? Instead of another chain bookstore teetering on bankruptcy (Barnes and Noble), how about a Banana Republic? Or a Gap? Yeah!!
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Just say no to e-books.
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I thought it was great having a bookstore uptown. I always preferred Borders' selection... the St. Charles location was great at finding interesting books to feature.

Regardless, I get paid on Friday and I expect to spend a bundle at their clearance sale.

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Stores like Banana Republic and Gap never locate by themselves... they either go to a mall or, in a city, they go to an established retail street with other chains. Even Magazine would be a bit of a gamble for them, since Magazine is almost entirely local businesses.

I don't know what I want to open up there. Hopefully Barnes & Noble will pick it up... they're not as good, but I can't think of another kind of store that can do alright in the middle of a residential neighborhood. It's too bad they already started renovating the Latter Library... that building is really tiny for the number of people who live Uptown, and the funeral home would allow for a MAJOR expansion.

Unfortunately, I'm guessing we'll end up with another version of that thing at Washington/Prytania... lots of little knick-knack shops that close by 4pm.
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Published: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 3:54 PM


BATON ROUGE -- The State Bond Commission cleared the way Thursday for the old Texaco Oil Building at 1501 Canal Street to get a new lease on life as an apartment complex for the elderly.

With little debate, the commission approved a request from the Louisiana Housing Finance Agency to sell up to $22 million in bonds to refurbish and convert the former office building near Interstate 10 and Canal Street to apartments.

Wayne Neveu, the attorney who handled the request before the commission, said that the building cannot be torn down because it has been protected as architecturally significant as an example of the building styles of the 1950s and 1960s.

Work on the building should begin in the next month or two, Neveu said.

The project must be "placed in service by the end of 2011" in order to take advantage of low-income housing tax credits, commission analyst Cassie Berthelot said.
Something isn't right here. I'm glad the building is being revived, but $22 million seems awfully low for the amount of damage that building sustained.

Given Khoury's track record, I have a feeling the completed renovation won't be any less of an eyesore.
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Former Texaco Building to be converted into apartments

http://www.nola.com/business/index.s..._to_be_co.html

Canal Street building to be converted into apartment complex
The projects has received bond approval. To qualify for tax credits, the building will need to be finished before the end of the year.

Edit: It seems you beat me to it.
It certainly is not a beautiful building, but as long as it's not full of broken windows and vandalism, it will be an improvement in my book. This timeline does seem very ambitious, but I really hope they can make it. Has the building been gutted already? It sure seems like it has.

We've already got the BioInnovation Center, Saenger Theater, and Hotel Indigo projects rolling. If this plus Iberville redevelopment and Kailas' tower go through, this area will be tremendously improved.
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A rebuilt streetscape, a host of new restaurants opening and a reinvigorated street party all slated for the coming months are accelerating the excitement and sense of renewal along the Freret corridor, residents said Tuesday night.

Ensslen, who said he receives calls from every developer with an idea for Freret, shared a long list of restaurants planned for the corridor in the coming months. The first, Dat Dog, a gourmet hot dog stand, is slated to open any day. In a building near the Napoleon Avenue side of Freret, two restaurants are planned, a traditional sit-down restaurant serving family fare, and a deli with a wood-fired pizza oven.

Farther up Freret, a gourmet hamburger restaurant and a deep-dish pizza restaurant are also in the works, Ensslen said. Since Friar Tuck’s closed, there has been a tremendous amount of interest in that building, though no firm plans have been shared, Ensslen said. Two other new live-music venues have been proposed, one with a more family-oriented style on the top floor of the bright blue Neighborhood Housing Services building, and a traditional jazz lounge geared toward older audiences between Sarita’s and the Freret Boxing Gym.
Went down Freret today... Dat Dogs looks open or at least very close to it. Nice, inviting NOLA-style place. The other proposed new restaurants sound great... Adolfo Garcia of A Mano and Rio Mar wants to open a Southern-style restaurant and a Neapolitan pizza joint.

The article mentions a Chicago-style deep dish pizza place, too. I'm kind of a purist, but I'm really hoping for the best. Chicago pizza entrepreneurs tend to fall in love with other cities and open satellite locations. Hopefully that's the case again - even though deep dish pizza has limited appeal outside of Chicago. (It really only works near concentrations of retired Chicagoans, like in Scottsdale or Naples.)
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