Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Fort Rouge

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

My nomination for worst building (excluding everything in the suburbs) is the fake historic parkade on Lombard. Worst by a mile if you ask me.

Completely agree. Worst in design, usefulness, treatment of surroundings, compatibility with neighbourhood... everything. Maybe it'd be an easier pill to swallow if it were more than 2 storeys and kept us from needing more parkades in the East Exchange for a long time.

[Spocket]

Are we going on about gentrification again?

You know, I've noticed that the people who whine the loudest about the evils of gentrification have no experience living in areas prior to gentrification.

Well, enjoy your ghettos while they last. Be the first of your friends to move in! It's the people shooting at you and jerking it in your back yard that give the neighbourhood that soulful charm you're looking for!

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by trueviking

Fort Garry Place isn’t a bad building. It’s kitsch but remove the sculptures and it’s fine. It’s high quality materials, a thousand residential units.

My nomination for worst building (excluding everything in the suburbs) is the fake historic parkade on Lombard. Worst by a mile if you ask me.

I suppose what drives me nuts about Fort Garry Place is what could have been possible given the ambitious scope and scale of the building and its budget.

Although, I recently learned that FGP is actually better than what could have happened. The Perrin family, who used to own the hotel, had originally planned to build on the FGP site, but wanted to build a low rise 6 storey building so it wouldn't block the hotel views to the park. They lost the hotel because of a municipal tax bill that was later found to have been inflated by an order of magnitude (1m+ instead of $95k). So, if they hadn't had the hotel basically expropriated by the city, we would have ended up without all those residential units. So... I suppose it could be worse

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...501284661.html

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...501284661.html
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I think the new facade looks nice, gives it a nice modern refresh.


The new siding is all up. Next is the marquee.

We've come a long way, and we can't wait for it all to be finished!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7jOuJgbpx/

[buzzg]

The siding is nice – but the removal of the windows should not have been allowed. It's awful.

[LilZebra]

Re: Park Theatre exterior renovations.

The now previous fascade paint job was done in the late 90s (around 1997?). I remember an article about it from one of the community papers back then, Uptown or Perimeter or some such.

While wood siding CAN be nice. For a home. This jobie isn't.

[buzzg]

Some sort of cornice would make a huge difference. I feel like it’s just going to look so cheap and unfinished without one.

[borkborkbork]

Few new developments in OV from the City Centre committee:

Wardlaw between Scott and Donald:

Current:


Proposed by Paragon Design Build and Affinity Architecture:
12000 sqft, 4 stories, 30 units.



River and Nassau:

Current:


Proposed by Paragon Design Build and Affinity Architecture:
4 stories, 20 units

[buzzg]

Looks great!

[Jeff]

awww i actually really like that last house! womp womp.. more-soul sucking condos as much as i love the renewal the area is experiencing.

[Wpg_Guy]

Affinity Architecture Designs are such CRAP. We should demand better higher quality design in this area.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by LilZebra

Re: Park Theatre exterior renovations.

The now previous fascade paint job was done in the late 90s (around 1997?). I remember an article about it from one of the community papers back then, Uptown or Perimeter or some such.

While wood siding CAN be nice. For a home. This jobie isn't.

It's absolutely hideous. They wrecked it.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Affinity Architecture Designs are such CRAP. We should demand better higher quality design in this area.

Compare those generic pieces of cheap looking sh*t to the Congress Apartments or Moxam Court (which admittedly needs some work).

[Wpg_Guy]

The Park Theatre looking well in the sun!

@archiseekwpg May 14

[ediger]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Curious on what your stance is with all the old people who bought $500m+ new condos in the Exchange, and now spend every breath of their existence to stop new bars opening or anything exciting events from happening – even though though that's been the character of the area for a long time.

Not thrilled with it but that shark was jumped a long time ago.

Originally Posted by Spocket

Are we going on about gentrification again?

You know, I've noticed that the people who whine the loudest about the evils of gentrification have no experience living in areas prior to gentrification.

Well, enjoy your ghettos while they last. Be the first of your friends to move in! It's the people shooting at you and jerking it in your back yard that give the neighbourhood that soulful charm you're looking for!

You can take care of the murderers and public masturbators without pricing out the rest of the people and any existing businesses

[buzzg]

A friend of mine is moving out of Osborne and looking for an apartment in the suburbs. He’s a pretty “urban” guy, but said the violence, drugs, and filthiness in the village lately has gotten out of hand, and he can’t stand living there anymore. Not the first I've heard of this recently.

Said there’s always needles and garbage everywhere in the lanes, quite of few assaults and stabbing a that haven’t really made the news (I’ve heard Mad Cows have lots of ppl around there now) and it’s just generally gotten to be a rough place to live in the last year.

Nervous for my parents who just sold their house in River Heights to an apartment in the village.

[EspionNoir]

Originally Posted by buzzg

A friend of mine is moving out of Osborne and looking for an apartment in the suburbs. He’s a pretty “urban” guy, but said the violence, drugs, and filthiness in the village lately has gotten out of hand, and he can’t stand living there anymore. Not the first I've heard of this recently.

Said there’s always needles and garbage everywhere in the lanes, quite of few assaults and stabbing a that haven’t really made the news (I’ve heard Mad Cows have lots of ppl around there now) and it’s just generally gotten to be a rough place to live in the last year.

Nervous for my parents who just sold their house in River Heights to an apartment in the village.

Ouch

Yet many of city’s best character apartments are there

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by buzzg

A friend of mine is moving out of Osborne and looking for an apartment in the suburbs. He’s a pretty “urban” guy, but said the violence, drugs, and filthiness in the village lately has gotten out of hand, and he can’t stand living there anymore. Not the first I've heard of this recently.

Said there’s always needles and garbage everywhere in the lanes, quite of few assaults and stabbing a that haven’t really made the news (I’ve heard Mad Cows have lots of ppl around there now) and it’s just generally gotten to be a rough place to live in the last year.

Nervous for my parents who just sold their house in River Heights to an apartment in the village.

Corydon is getting just as bad too. Prime example: the carjackings, Bar Italia, the Tim Hortons usually has some... colorful characters...

As for Osborne, yeah totally agree, I've been hearing stories too from friends still in the city. You'd think after WPS spent all those years forcing the bikers out, they'd be a little more on top of this...? Or maybe the city letting the developers run wild and densifying Osborne, so the amount of people and businesses would gradually force out the riffraff...?

[esquire]

Osborne Village has really declined over the last 10-15 years or so. Where you really see it is when you compare it to similar urban neighborhoods across the country. So many of them underwent building booms, while Osborne remains pretty well the same as it was in the 80s with height limits and setbacks preventing anything decent from being built. Combine that with a spike in poverty and drugs, and you end up with a neighborhood that is a shadow of what it once was.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by esquire

Osborne Village has really declined over the last 10-15 years or so. Where you really see it is when you compare it to similar urban neighborhoods across the country. So many of them underwent building booms, while Osborne remains pretty well the same as it was in the 80s with height limits and setbacks preventing anything decent from being built. Combine that with a spike in poverty and drugs, and you end up with a neighborhood that is a shadow of what it once was.

Agreed... at this point, minus the Toad, church and Wild Planet, I'm almost completely in favour of just bulldozing it all & pulling a Calgary East Village/Vancouver on it. It'll only get worse from here, especially since theres no new industrial land in Winnipeg, no other major job creation either. The only thing that would save it is either being completely rebuilt from the ground up - or like they did in Shenzhen: make a special zone, cut 99.9% of the red tape, relocate a few NIMBY's and cut taxes down in the zone by half, or more.

Maybe THAT might get the ball rolling?