AUSTIN | Waterline | 1,034 Feet | 73 Floors | T/O

[deerhoof]

https://twitter.com/WalkableAustin/s...bZ2ou-l468iYCA

[myBrain]

Love that second rendering. This tower is sleek and will have an awesome profile rising out of the river.

I wonder where he got these? There have got to be more. This is the rendering quality to be expected of a KPF project

[bobbywest87]

Looks like Willow Street is no more:

[AusTex]

Both those fine renderings really show for the first time the continuous taper of the building all the way through the crown. It looks very sleek. I hope to see more of these quality renderings in the near future.

[We vs us]

Those renderings are beautifully done, but man, that tower is whack. It sets off all my OCD muscles. But whatever happens, it'll be one of the most memorable and iconic towers in North America. I can't think of any other buildings this size that are this weird.

[bobbywest87]

Originally Posted by We vs us

Those renderings are beautifully done, but man, that tower is whack. It sets off all my OCD muscles. But whatever happens, it'll be one of the most memorable and iconic towers in North America. I can't think of any other buildings this size that are this weird.

I know the idea is to have an open-air garden half way up, but I dislike how the tower takes a jump back for the top layer as opposed to just following the contour of the level beneath it.

[Nickelplate]

Originally Posted by bobbywest87

I know the idea is to have an open-air garden half way up, but I dislike how the tower takes a jump back for the top layer as opposed to just following the contour of the level beneath it.

Bobby I was thinking this exact thought before I arrived down to your comment. It would be more attractive with a continuous taper from top to bottom without any setbacks. Although I also believe the quality of materials and attention to detail this design may have will provide a more pleasing real life building than rendering.

[zx14]

I cant wait to see this under construction. It will be amazing to see Austin have a building on the Supertall forum page along side NYC and others. Also if the Texas Republicans get their way it will be the tallest building in the country JK LOL

[jkconno]

Looks like rebar is on site

[drummer]

• Video Link

Can anyone help me understand why a youtube link isn't working?

[jbjjbjbb]

Use this: [YOUTUBE]L4kS6S053b4[/YOUTUBE]
Instead of this: [YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/L4kS6S053b4[/YOUTUBE]

More details here

Originally Posted by drummer

• Video Link

Can anyone help me understand why a youtube link isn't working?

[drummer]

Originally Posted by jbjjbjbb

Use this: [YOUTUBE]L4kS6S053b4[/YOUTUBE]
Instead of this: [YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/L4kS6S053b4[/YOUTUBE]

More details here

Awesome, thanks!

And this is one of my favorite clips from a show. Stinkin' hilarious.

[The ATX]

A couple updates:


https://twitter.com/TheATX1/status/1539746435788423176



https://twitter.com/TheATX1/status/1540069824310792194

[bobbywest87]

This probably isn’t the right place to ask this, but if there were to be an economic downturn like everyone is predicting, would that stall or cancel this tower (and others) indefinitely? Just curious, as I don’t know how these types of industries are impacted.

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by bobbywest87

This probably isn’t the right place to ask this, but if there were to be an economic downturn like everyone is predicting, would that stall or cancel this tower (and others) indefinitely? Just curious, as I don’t know how these types of industries are impacted.

If we go into a recession, it seems to me that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. All of the talking heads seem to be doing a ridiculous amount of hand wringing and talking us into one. So now some of the worry warts that control purse strings are preparing for a recession even though there is not yet evidence that we are going into a recession. But by preparing for a recession, they may cause a recession. I know inflation is high, but the economy is still doing well. So, IMHO, it's mind numbing negative nancy-ism run amuck.

At any rate, I'm no expert, but I imagine most of these towers have already secured enough funding to get these buildings done. This isn't like the old Intel building which, if I'm not mistaken, Intel was funding itself and could just cut it off at a whim.

[bobbywest87]

Originally Posted by paul78701

If we go into a recession, it seems to me that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. All of the talking heads seem to be doing a ridiculous amount of hand wringing and talking us into one. So now some of the worry warts that control purse strings are preparing for a recession even though there is not yet evidence that we are going into a recession. But by preparing for a recession, they may cause a recession. I know inflation is high, but the economy is still doing well. So, IMHO, it's mind numbing negative nancy-ism run amuck.

At any rate, I'm no expert, but I imagine most of these towers have already secured enough funding to get these buildings done. This isn't like the old Intel building which, if I'm not mistaken, Intel was funding itself and could just cut it off at a whim.

Thank you for explaining it to me. My knowledge of how the economy works is limited at best. I should be worried about things other than whether some towers in Austin are going get built or not, but I just don’t want to see all these buildings get shelves and turned back into parking lots in a few years.

[the Genral]

Originally Posted by bobbywest87

Thank you for explaining it to me. My knowledge of how the economy works is limited at best. I should be worried about things other than whether some towers in Austin are going get built or not, but I just don’t want to see all these buildings get shelves and turned back into parking lots in a few years.

Just to be clear, here is a list of legitimate things to worry about in order of importance:
Tower's getting built in Austin, oxygen, water, food, shelter, money in the bank, and peace on Earth.

[StoOgE]

Originally Posted by paul78701

If we go into a recession, it seems to me that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. All of the talking heads seem to be doing a ridiculous amount of hand wringing and talking us into one. So now some of the worry warts that control purse strings are preparing for a recession even though there is not yet evidence that we are going into a recession. But by preparing for a recession, they may cause a recession. I know inflation is high, but the economy is still doing well. So, IMHO, it's mind numbing negative nancy-ism run amuck.

At any rate, I'm no expert, but I imagine most of these towers have already secured enough funding to get these buildings done. This isn't like the old Intel building which, if I'm not mistaken, Intel was funding itself and could just cut it off at a whim.

I mean - there are real economic forces that are harming the economy. The global supply chain is still a wreck, ocean freight costs are still astronomical, raw material shortages are extremely real, inflation is the highest its been in 40 years and the labor market is completely wrecked.

The fed is currently fighting 8% inflation and a labor market where non-college education workers are seeing a 14% annual increase in wages and trying to figure out how to curb inflation without bringing the economy to a screeching halt.

Now, the particulars of the Austin housing market is that it is absolutely red hot. i also imagine many of these towers already have financing but I also assume they are all looking at increased construction costs. Nationwide I assume we will see a slowdown in non public works construction but that does not mean that every single market will see a slowdown. Austin has real needs for apartments and condos. Hotel and office construction may slow down but its too early to say.

Its also not clear how long this particular recession (if it happens) will last. The 08 recession was an outlier. Most recessions are relatively short lived (11 months is average). I suspect a lot of the Summer/Fall starts on these towers will largely still rise but I suspect a few of the projects we think are about to break ground will fall through and projects in the earlier stages may be paused.

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by StoOgE

I mean - there are real economic forces that are harming the economy. The global supply chain is still a wreck, ocean freight costs are still astronomical, raw material shortages are extremely real, inflation is the highest its been in 40 years and the labor market is completely wrecked.

The fed is currently fighting 8% inflation and a labor market where non-college education workers are seeing a 14% annual increase in wages and trying to figure out how to curb inflation without bringing the economy to a screeching halt.

All very true. I admittedly glossed over a lot of this in an effort to not take us too far off topic. At any rate, these are issues. If they don't moderate, they could eventually cause enough pain to take us into a recession. So far, they haven't though. Some of those issues could start moderating for many reasons. If China ends their never-ending lockdowns, war in Ukraine ending, etc. Again, this is off topic and way more complicated than we can/should get into here.

My basic point is that much of the recession prediction game has been a lot of worrying and guessing rather than being evidence based. There's just not enough evidence yet to say that we're definitely going into a recession.

[bobbywest87]

Originally Posted by paul78701

All very true. I admittedly glossed over a lot of this in an effort to not take us too far off topic. At any rate, these are issues. If they don't moderate, they could eventually cause enough pain to take us into a recession. So far, they haven't though. Some of those issues could start moderating for many reasons. If China ends their never-ending lockdowns, war in Ukraine ending, etc. Again, this is off topic and way more complicated than we can/should get into here.

My basic point is that much of the recession prediction game has been a lot of worrying and guessing rather than being evidence based. There's just not enough evidence yet to say that we're definitely going into a recession.

Thanks everyone for the responses and helping me understand. My only reason for bringing it up on this particular skyscraper was because of the Reddit/r/Austin thread where people were questioning whether (or why) this tower is going up right before an “imminent” recession.