Manitoba | Highways

[cllew]

We have not had any bridge/high truck contacts that I am aware of on the low approaches to the abandoned CN Oak Point crossing / Rt3 90 bridge on Wellington Crescent in a long while.

I guess the local furniture truck drivers a paying attention to the warning signs.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Hwy 433 going up to Granite Hills golf course has been announced its going from gravel to asphalt. This is huge for the area, it can get very busy with so many cottages, many who have become permanent year round plus the popularity of the golf course.

[esquire]

Good news: PTH 3 is being twinned

Bad news: It's a measly mile's worth of it

Manitoba confirms plan to twin Highway 3
Posted: 2:40 PM CDT Thursday, Jul. 13, 2023

A functional design study to twin a section of Provincial Trunk Highway 3 is underway, Manitoba Infrastructure Minister Doyle Piwniuk says.

The provincial government intends to widen a 1.6-kilometre section of the highway extending east from Winnipeg city limits. According to the province, reconstruction is necessary owing to increased traffic volumes and to enable development in the region.

Consultations are scheduled to wrap up by May.

[Glenn99]

Originally Posted by esquire

Good news: PTH 3 is being twinned

Bad news: It's a measly mile's worth of it



Consultations are scheduled to wrap up by May.

From Brady Rd to South Landing? After they just added lights and turning lanes.

[esquire]

IMO they should be twinning to just past Oak Bluff as phase one, and then go from there.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by esquire

IMO they should be twinning to just past Oak Bluff as phase one, and then go from there.

What! and forgo an opportunity to create a neverending phased project? Sacrilege!

[bomberjet]

As part of the interchange project, the highway is being twinned past oak bluff. This twinning fills the gap between the City and 101.

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

As part of the interchange project, the highway is being twinned past oak bluff. This twinning fills the gap between the City and 101.

Where did you hear this? The initial phase plans on MTI's website (to 2048) show untwinned PTH3l 3 and a single bridge for PTH 3 at Perimeter.

[bomberjet]

Oh right.. Maybe since they plan to twin PTH 3 in the short term, the interchange will also get the twinning treatment.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Oh right.. Maybe since they plan to twin PTH 3 in the short term, the interchange will also get the twinning treatment.

I hope so. I also hope that a few more of these south perimeter projects can be expedited, that would be nice. It's so painfully obvious to anyone driving through that we are stuck in the 60s on our road design...

[CoryB]

Apparently the Perimeter northbound at Wilkes is undergoing some maintenance work soon. Could this be FINALLY fixing the ramps on the existing bridge to address the massive safety issues?

[esquire]

^ In fairness, the geometry of the ramps there is probably no worse than with the other pre-1970 interchanges on the Perimeter (excluding the ones that have been significantly modified like 100 @ 1 on both the east and west ends).

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ In fairness, the geometry of the ramps there is probably no worse than with the other pre-1970 interchanges on the Perimeter (excluding the ones that have been significantly modified like 100 @ 1 on both the east and west ends).

I strongly disagree. There is no other interchange on the Perimeter and to my knowledge anywhere in Manitoba that has merging traffic go through a hairpin turn almost immediately before dropping them into a 100 km/h through lane of traffic at the top of the bridge so there isn't even a ditch or field to bail into in case of an error. And by chance if there is anything even remotely close to that dangerous elsewhere in Manitoba there is no chance that it has the same volume of traffic. The southbound side is almost as bad with the exit lane from the 100 km/h being on the blind side of grade separation. In most cases the exit it actually an added lane at the top of the grade separation which greatly improves visibility to traffic before they are at that point. There was one time not that long ago there was an accident on that very part and police needed to intentionally stage some of their vehicles further back to protect the accident scene.

What is super frustrating about that intersection is the land around it is currently undeveloped agricultural and similar uses. It would be trivial to move the two interaction points further south and have a stretch of added lane to support merge and exit actions in a much safer manner.

[bomberjet]

The MTI projects map (https://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/mipmap/map.html) says grading work on PTH 100. But dates are from last year. Not sure if that work was done, or is planned to be done this year as Cory mentioned.

I doubt, IMO, that any of the work proposed in the South Perimeter master plan will be completed without some sort of press release from the Province. Especially during election season.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Apparently the Perimeter northbound at Wilkes is undergoing some maintenance work soon. Could this be FINALLY fixing the ramps on the existing bridge to address the massive safety issues?

They are starting the overlay project between Wilkes and Hwy 3.

[Wpgstvsouth94]

https://www.chrisd.ca/2023/07/14/perimeter-highway-resurfacing-mcgillivrary-wilkes/amp/

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by CoryB

I strongly disagree. There is no other interchange on the Perimeter and to my knowledge anywhere in Manitoba that has merging traffic go through a hairpin turn almost immediately before dropping them into a 100 km/h through lane of traffic at the top of the bridge so there isn't even a ditch or field to bail into in case of an error. And by chance if there is anything even remotely close to that dangerous elsewhere in Manitoba there is no chance that it has the same volume of traffic. The southbound side is almost as bad with the exit lane from the 100 km/h being on the blind side of grade separation. In most cases the exit it actually an added lane at the top of the grade separation which greatly improves visibility to traffic before they are at that point. There was one time not that long ago there was an accident on that very part and police needed to intentionally stage some of their vehicles further back to protect the accident scene.

What is super frustrating about that intersection is the land around it is currently undeveloped agricultural and similar uses. It would be trivial to move the two interaction points further south and have a stretch of added lane to support merge and exit actions in a much safer manner.

221 / 101 is a mirror copy of Wilkes. Also they said they will be lengthing Wilkes on and off Ramps.

[pegcityboy]

Went golfing to Pleasant Valley yesterday ( by Pelican Lake , south end of it ) and saw road construction signs slow down east of Baldur , much to my surprise even shock , road crew working on the road at 11 am and even more shocking coming back to Winnipeg at 530 ish road crew STILL WORKING on the highway ! Highway 3 and 23 now in very good shape .

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by pegcityboy

Went golfing to Pleasant Valley yesterday ( by Pelican Lake , south end of it ) and saw road construction signs slow down east of Baldur , much to my surprise even shock , road crew working on the road at 11 am and even more shocking coming back to Winnipeg at 530 ish road crew STILL WORKING on the highway ! Highway 3 and 23 now in very good shape .

That’s great news. On the other hand I just arrived in Pleasant Valley (my sister lives there) Saturday from the south and 18 Highway from the US border to the Highway 3 junction is an insult to goat paths. From the Junction to the Vet Clinic corner it’s in midlife shape. From there to Ninette it’s brand new and from Ninette to the junction of Highway 2 it’s a goat path. Probably a couple of years before resurfacing commences. Folks out here expect a reduction of highway upgrades in this region if the NDP is elected. 🫤

[bomberjet]

Then maybe they should vote for the NDP?