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[SIGSEGV]

Look at all those predominantly African-American wards that Lightfoot won:

(from the Trib)

[Via Chicago]

Lol

[Mr Roboto]

Honestly suprised by the results. I thought it was between Preckwinkle and Daley. I totally underestimated Lightfoots chances, looks like she has a great chance of becoming mayor in the runoff. Guess she doesnt have any major baggage, maybe that's why shes winning.

[bnk]

Lakefront liberals strike again.

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

(from the Trib)

Why did Joyce run? No chance of winning...Stalking horse against Bill?


I want to hear from a well to do DT worker that commutes to explain why Lightfoot is the best choice. Those that voted for her.


From a pro business and general development viewpoint that Rahm would have run on.


I think it is Lightfoot's race to lose. She should get the Daley vote, the a good chunk of the Mendoza vote and Joyce's outer areas. And perhaps a percentage of Chico's votes.

W Wilson's area could go TP by a margin.


All added up it should be an easy Lightfoot's win with pro business money if she asks for it.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Mr Roboto

Honestly suprised by the results. I thought it was between Preckwinkle and Daley. I totally underestimated Lightfoots chances, looks like she has a great chance of becoming mayor in the runoff. Guess she doesnt have any major baggage, maybe that's why shes winning.

I agree, but I should have realized she was going to do well. Most of the more liberal whites I know voted for her. That is demonstrated by the ward map vote.

She seems reasonable enough. She has my relatively unenthusiastic vote.

[Via Chicago]

joyce won both airports. impressive.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by Via Chicago

joyce won both airports. impressive.

I guess Ken Griffin would have been better off paying Joyce a million dollars to stop running.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

I guess Ken Griffin would have been better off paying Joyce a million dollars to stop running.

I see what you did there... That would have pushed him to at least 19% Daley should give the millions in his coffers for the second run from Ken Griffin to Lightfoot in the General.


Its not like you can use it to buy a vacation house unless he is going to run for another post. More likely He will donate some and donate the rest to so some other Dems out running for election if that is legal, if not he should either donate it to a worthy cause or return it. There is no way he spent it all on the first election.

Well played.

[ardecila]

This a complicated topic, there’s lots of voting blocs and it goes way beyond black-white-Latino. It’s really interesting how the black community split among Preckwinkle and Wilson, with nary a vote for Lightfoot. I think many in that community don’t trust her after her years as a prosecutor working with and defending cops. Preckwinkle basically took her home turf on the South Lakefront, plus a respectable share citywide from CTU people and progressives. The more hardscrabble black neighborhoods on the South Side, plus the West Side, went for Wilson.

For white North Side voters that are predictably appalled by Chicago corruption, the Burke-Solis scandal breaking just weeks ago rocked this election. It knocked out Mendoza as a choice for North Side voters and probably reminded them in even stronger terms why they should not elect another Daley. Lightfoot was there with a strong ground game to capture those disaffected voters far more effectively than Vallas, Enyia, or the other remaining candidates, and she could plausibly claim to be a crusader against corruption.

[galleyfox]

Take a look at the map of the second place finishers in each ward though. That's where things get interesting between Lightfoot and Preckwinkle.

[Chicago Shawn]

So with Alderman Arena and Moreno out, Waguespack unopposed and Rosa staying put; I suspect the Milwaukee Avenue corridor boom will completely shutdown from Devon to Division, at least for everything needing a zoning change over the next four years. Land values meanwhile will continue to increase and eventually the lid will blow off the pressure cooker when someone more favorable to development comes along. Anyone want to place bets as to where major neighborhood TOD investment might be migrating to in the interim?

Lori Lightfoot was my second choice after Daley, in large part because she wants to declare all out war on aldermanic prerogative. I think she has a lot of potential to be a good mayor, though her stance against the Amazon bid and Lincoln Yards being ‘too dense and too rushed’ gives me caution.

[Chicago Shawn]

And of course the plot twist I sure didn’t see coming tonight:

Jerry Joyce of Mount Greenwood is the son of Jeremiah Joyce, former alderman and state senator and strong ally of the Daleys. Mt Greenwood being a neighborhood full of public safety and city employees and a traditional stronghold for the Daley Dynasty, came out strong for Jerry. It had the highest number of votes of any ward tonight.

In short, if Jerry Joyce didn’t run, Bill Daley would be in the runoff

[Kenmore]

Results were good, glad to see forum conservatives having temper tantrums

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

So with Alderman Arena and Moreno out, Waguespack unopposed and Rosa staying put; I suspect the Milwaukee Avenue corridor boom will completely shutdown from Devon to Division, at least for everything needing a zoning change over the next four years. Land values meanwhile will continue to increase and eventually the lid will blow off the pressure cooker when someone more favorable to development comes along. Anyone want to place bets as to where major neighborhood TOD investment might be migrating to in the interim?

Lori Lightfoot was my second choice after Daley, in large part because she wants to declare all out war on aldermanic prerogative. I think she has a lot of potential to be a good mayor, though her stance against the Amazon bid and Lincoln Yards being ‘too dense and too rushed’ gives me caution.

Yeah not good for the Milwaukee corridor. Of course all that will happen is rents will increase even more as fewer units are built and deconversions will take out smaller apartment buildings. The market always beats government intrusion.

[tjp]

Ugh and there are so many Logan Square parking lots I was excited to get rid of

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

So with Alderman Arena and Moreno out, Waguespack unopposed and Rosa staying put; I suspect the Milwaukee Avenue corridor boom will completely shutdown from Devon to Division, at least for everything needing a zoning change over the next four years. Land values meanwhile will continue to increase and eventually the lid will blow off the pressure cooker when someone more favorable to development comes along. Anyone want to place bets as to where major neighborhood TOD investment might be migrating to in the interim?

Lori Lightfoot was my second choice after Daley, in large part because she wants to declare all out war on aldermanic prerogative. I think she has a lot of potential to be a good mayor, though her stance against the Amazon bid and Lincoln Yards being ‘too dense and too rushed’ gives me caution.

Yup, this was actually an excellent election for me from a business perspective. I expect the demand will do three things:

1. Migrate to small multi family properties in the area eviscerating whatever affordable stock is remaining possibly by the next election.

2. Move to the West and Southwest sides (hello little village)

3. Manifest itself in the one section of Milwaukee Avenue that isn't controlled by a complete idiot: Ward 30. That's assuming Reboryas wins the runoff, but Jessica Gutierrez is probably corrupt AF given who her father is so I'm sure the developers will have a heyday either way.

Here's what won't happen: Guys like LaSpata won't be able to magically extract more affordable housing from whatever developers are dumb enough to ask for a zoning change in their ward. That's not how the market works, the math needs to pencil out on these projects and the ARO already pushes the limits of what can be achieved when you are getting anything less than downtown or Lincoln Park rents.

Originally Posted by Kenmore

Results were good, glad to see forum conservatives having temper tantrums

Literally no one is having a tantrum, bnk is a bit worked up as always, but my investments just gained a ton of value since growth is going to be pushed wholesale in my favor. I just think it's unfortunate that the people these idiots purport to represent are going to be harmed by imbecilic policy decisions. For example, I was hoping for Rosa to lose because he is really unresponsive to the neighborhood and makes policy decisions that hurt everyone, but I'll be damned if him staying in office didn't just jack up the value of property I own in his ward that's already zoned for a large condo building. Looks like I'll probably be cashing in on that (i.e. destroying 3 units of relatively cheap housing and putting up $600k condos) sooner than later.

Originally Posted by tjp

Ugh and there are so many Logan Square parking lots I was excited to get rid of

There really aren't, not in Moreno's ward at least. They eviscerated everything along Milwaukee in the first ward. Really only the CVS is left. There's nothing in Rosa's ward except the Emmitt street lot. All the remaining vacant lots are north of Central Park and mostly lie in Reboryas' ward. Assuming he wins the runoff expect a flurry of proposals for the area around Milwaukee, Belmont, and Pulaski which is basically 50% vacant lots all of which are up for sale. I have half a mind to go get all of that under contract right now so I can flip out of the contract at a much higher price other developers if he wins.

I can't say how happy I am that Moreno is out, he's everything that's wrong with our system. He already cleared out pretty much all vacant lots in that area so that's great, but developers really shouldn't be able to buy a zoning change with campaign donations.

The only result I'm truly upset about is that Daley didn't edge Toni out of the runoff. The more I learn about Lori Lightfoot, the more I like her. I would love to see her come in and spend a whole term attacking perogative and reforming the building code. Our city needs to run more like all other cities in the US, with predictable planning and rules and norms and NO CORRUPTION. Again, I don't know why anyone is upset to see a slimebag like Moreno lose no matter how much of a nutty progressive his replacement is. As bad as it is to see a guy like Rosa totally shut down development in an idiotic ploy to prevent the inevitable, it's just as bad or worse to see a guy like Moreno totally abusing the system even though his policy choices single handedly created more affordable units (and market rate too!) than just about anywhere else in the city. Corruption resulting in good policy is worse than bad policy coming from a misguided young alderman. But both cases demonstrate exactly why planning decisions should not come from politicians. Land values just massively shifted all over the NW side and the whole city for that matter based upon last night's outcome. That makes no sense and isn't good for anyone except those savvy enough to read political tea leaves and cash in. And that's exactly the issue, you shouldn't have to be an expert in Chicago ward level politics to do business in this city. It generates massive uncertainty and is why a lot of national and international players avoid investing in the provincial backwaters known as Chicago neighborhoods.

[UPChicago]

I really don't know who will win the runoff but I'm happy with either. Toni came second in many of Lori's Wards and Lori came second in many of Daley's Wards. Toni will get most of, if not all of Wilson's wards. I think Mendoza and Joyce's wards are the toss-ups.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

And of course the plot twist I sure didn’t see coming tonight:

Jerry Joyce of Mount Greenwood is the son of Jeremiah Joyce, former alderman and state senator and strong ally of the Daleys. Mt Greenwood being a neighborhood full of public safety and city employees and a traditional stronghold for the Daley Dynasty, came out strong for Jerry. It had the highest number of votes of any ward tonight.

In short, if Jerry Joyce didn’t run, Bill Daley would be in the runoff

Yep, Joyce pretty much ruined Daley’s chances

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

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There really are, not in Moreno's ward at least. They eviscerated everything along Milwaukee in the first ward. Really only the CVS is left. There's nothing in Rosa's ward except the Emmitt street lot. All the remaining vacant lots are north of Central Park and mostly lie in Reboryas' ward. Assuming he wins the runoff expect a flurry of proposals for the area around Milwaukee, Belmont, and Pulaski which is basically 50% vacant lots all of which are up for sale. I have half a mind to go get all of that under contract right now so I can flip out of the contract at a much higher price other developers if he wins.

Development will still happen. Even these starry eyed losers will have to take developer money, they don’t have any other source of income. Being a socialist in America is a dead end career.

But things will indeed slow down and yes, landlords will simply face less competition from new construction leading to rent increases and further displacement.

I don’t think Milwaukee/Belmont is that much to get excited about, though. No L access

[UPChicago]

Originally Posted by bnk

If either McCarthy or Vallas didn't run Daley would have secured a spot.

But the same thing can be said if Wilie Brown didn't run that his votes would have gone to some of the female black candidates.


14 running was too many. The Business community and the Rahm vote was behind Daley. But the turn out was so low, the largest minority majority is whites in population and votes. Blacks in second even though now there are more Hispanics but they do not vote as a high as a percentage.


The point is a very large segment that did vote were white, of course the teachers union white or rainbow voted for TP while the guilty Lakefront liberals voted for Lightfoot, I suspect.

The issue here is that we have no pro business mayor candidates thus far. I guess it will Coalesce around Lightfoot now that Daley is unable to make up the margin in a two way battle.



I want to know who Lightfoot's voter base is?

I see nothing pro business in her website or platform. But I suspect the business community and Daley will now have to support her in the runoff.


The fact that of the four top vote getters were black in a city with the largest percentage of whites voting is something.

Three of them were black, one a lesbian. The other black man was a joke.


So that is 43% of the total votes going to 3 blacks out of the top four and Daley getting at best 16%.

So add up those numbers and Bills numbers and clearly whites voted for someone else not named Daley even though those that did vote had good paying jobs and likely little memory of Richie.

I still think Rahm was the best choice and would have won in a runoff against anyone.



But who are all of these white voters coming out of the woodwork and demographics of them to vote for a LGBT black female over another black female in such a degree not even a staunch lifelong democrat that worked with Obama as Chief of Staff and commerce cabinet post and knows the ins and outs of DC and their money lines were inundated by whites voting for blacks? There are threads dedicated to the reverse migration from the Great Migration still posting in this site. The Black population will continue to bleed and lose population projected to 2035 where they will be 50% of what they were when Mayor Washington ran, who also needed a rainbow collection of north shore liberals, blacks and Hispanics and every other color in the spectrum in the early 80's.



Is there anything in Lightfoot's platform that is superior to PW concerning being pro big business . I see nothing to see that she will continue the Rahm like approach for poaching talent, from hopefully one day out of state one day, and I do not see much about her taxing program or how to pay to expand the CPS system.

What in the actual fuck......