Salt Lake MSA Development Thread - Page 87

SLC Projects · #**1721** Posted **Oct 10, 2009, 9:49 PM**

Murray City Skyline.

Notice the new 6-story office building to the far right.

DMTower · #**1722** Posted **Oct 11, 2009, 1:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by MetroFanatic

I think it would be cool if the Trax train had to go inside a somewhat large station that is integrated with the airport.

My guess is they will have a larger, integrated Trax station in the airport when they finally rebuild it.

John Martin · #**1723** Posted **Oct 11, 2009, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Here is a conceptual rendering of an Airport LRT station.

http://www.ffkr.com/#boards/airport_light_rail

I really hope they'll have ticket gates at the airport station. I think tourists would be more likely to buy week-long passes (if those even exist) if they thought tickets were actually needed to use the system. In general, really, I wish they'd try to utilize gates instead of the "random-ambush" tactic of checking tickets for TRAX...

jtrent77 · #**1724** Posted **Oct 11, 2009, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by John Martin

I really hope they'll have ticket gates at the airport station. I think tourists would be more likely to buy week-long passes (if those even exist) if they thought tickets were actually needed to use the system. In general, really, I wish they'd try to utilize gates instead of the "random-ambush" tactic of checking tickets for TRAX...

Maybe one reason that they didn't use gates to being with was because the stations are located in the middle of streets downtown....you hardly want a back up of people trying to get through gates and causing traffic problems.

John Martin · #**1725** Posted **Oct 11, 2009, 11:30 PM**

That's true, but all of downtown is in the free fare zone anyway. Further south, I think it makes more sense to enforce it.

jtrent77 · #**1726** Posted **Oct 12, 2009, 2:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by John Martin

That's true, but all of downtown is in the free fare zone anyway. Further south, I think it makes more sense to enforce it.

True enough, but then how do you enforce people that get on in the downtown area and then get off in Sandy? Certainly UTA doesn't want to pay to put in gates everywhere and also still pay for random ticket checks. Right now it is an imperfect system, hopefully they will find something that works a bit easier as they develop more lines.

H4vok · #**1727** Posted **Oct 12, 2009, 4:51 AM**

Does anybody know how the light rail ticket system works in Portland? Is it similar to SLC?

Stenar · #**1728** Posted **Oct 12, 2009, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by H4vok

Does anybody know how the light rail ticket system works in Portland? Is it similar to SLC?

Yes, and that's how they do it in the majority of transit systems in Europe, too.

MetroFanatic · #**1729** Posted **Oct 12, 2009, 5:43 AM**

In Boston, at the stations outside of the core, they have a machine on the trains that you slide your card into.

cololi · #**1730** Posted **Oct 12, 2009, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by DMTower

My guess is they will have a larger, integrated Trax station in the airport when they finally rebuild it.

The airport station is temporary, meaning that if or when they built the new terminal(s), the station will move. There are many options as to where to move it, none of which has had enough study to determine the best option. I do think that a station inside a terminal is very unlikely. My best guess is that a station will be located inside the planned parking structure or adjacent to it.

The space available at the current location limits the size of the station.

delts145 · #**1731** Posted **Oct 14, 2009, 11:55 AM**

RSL's stadium already a 'game changer'

Sandy » After one year, Rio Tinto complex drawing fans, TV time and attention for the city.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_13554812

Fans check out the new stadium, as Real Salt Lake played their first game at Rio TInto Stadium in January. (Rick Egan / The Salt Lake Tribune)

Sandy » In just one year, Real Salt Lake's stadium has staged 19 big-league soccer matches, a nationally televised all-star game, an internationally viewed World Cup qualifier, mega-concerts by Kenny Chesney and the Eagles, even a revved-up monster-truck rally...

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Orlando · #**1732** Posted **Oct 14, 2009, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

RSL's stadium already a 'game changer'

Sandy » After one year, Rio Tinto complex drawing fans, TV time and attention for the city.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_13554812

Fans check out the new stadium, as Real Salt Lake played their first game at Rio TInto Stadium in January. (Rick Egan / The Salt Lake Tribune)

Sandy » In just one year, Real Salt Lake's stadium has staged 19 big-league soccer matches, a nationally televised all-star game, an internationally viewed World Cup qualifier, mega-concerts by Kenny Chesney and the Eagles, even a revved-up monster-truck rally...

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In January???!! What?

Stenar · #**1733** Posted **Oct 14, 2009, 10:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

RSL's stadium already a 'game changer'

Sandy » After one year, Rio Tinto complex drawing fans, TV time and attention for the city.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_13554812

Fans check out the new stadium, as Real Salt Lake played their first game at Rio TInto Stadium in January. (Rick Egan / The Salt Lake Tribune)

Sandy » In just one year, Real Salt Lake's stadium has staged 19 big-league soccer matches, a nationally televised all-star game, an internationally viewed World Cup qualifier, mega-concerts by Kenny Chesney and the Eagles, even a revved-up monster-truck rally...

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And they only held 3 of 18 concerts they predicted, which were necessary for them to pay for it. How are they going to pay for the stadium when they're not getting the concerts they expected and everyone told them they would not get?

delts145 · #**1734** Posted **Oct 18, 2009, 5:00 PM**

Who's using all the new beds, facilities?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...acilities.html

The new $200 million patient care pavilion at University Hospital. A large part of the funds for the addition came from bonding. (Mike Terry, Deseret News)

...By the time the new Riverton Hospital opens in early November, more than $594 million in major medical facilities will have opened or been announced along the Wasatch Front this year alone. This as word comes that Intermountain is now considering construction of a new $22 million, 50-bed hospital on 70 acres in Layton...

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Orlando · #**1735** Posted **Oct 20, 2009, 9:34 PM**

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ettlement.html

delts145 · #**1736** Posted **Oct 21, 2009, 11:46 AM**

Riverton Hospital to open next month

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...-Riverton.html

Intermountain's new Riverton Hospital will include a Primary Children's satellite campus. (Tom Smart, Deseret News)

Primary Children's Medical Center just moved closer to tens of thousands of Utahns, whose children can now get specialized treatment at Intermountain Healthcare's new Riverton Hospital...

...The $162 million facility incorporates a three-story satellite facility for Primary Children's patients, the first of its kind to extend the hospital's reach beyond the University of Utah campus...

Hospital expected to invigorate Riverton

Health care » Murray mayor points to development around new IHC complex.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_13603986#

Riverton - Intermountain Healthcare's new hospital here promises to bring much-needed medical services to communities on the southwest end of the Salt Lake Valley.

The $160 million hospital complex, though, with its three buildings on 63 acres at 3741 W. 126000 South, will do more than provide hospital beds, physician offices and emergency services.

It also is expected to serve as a catalyst for future economic development in Riverton and surrounding communities...

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wrendog · #**1737** Posted **Oct 21, 2009, 4:06 PM**

So, what are the odds that the Ogden metro is added back to the SLC metro for this next census?

Orlando · #**1738** Posted **Oct 21, 2009, 8:02 PM**

Official confirm plans for spy center at Camp Williams. More details announced for $2 billion center.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ter-plans.html

Wasatch_One · #**1739** Posted **Oct 21, 2009, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by wrendog

So, what are the odds that the Ogden metro is added back to the SLC metro for this next census?

I don't think it will ever be a part of the actual SLC metro again, however, I think they will create a new designation of a CSA (Consolidated Statistical Area) which is how they designate metros like Chicago, SF, LA, NYC etc that really are multiple MSA's put together.

We have three MSA that they would keep separate and then have a CSA to consolidate them.

TonyAnderson · #**1740** Posted **Oct 21, 2009, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

I don't think it will ever be a part of the actual SLC metro again, however, I think they will create a new designation of a CSA (Consolidated Statistical Area) which is how they designate metros like Chicago, SF, LA, NYC etc that really are multiple MSA's put together.

We have three MSA that they would keep separate and then have a CSA to consolidate them.

Well Ogden is already officially part of the SLC CSA. I think Provo will be added to that.

I'm not sure if Ogden would get added back to Salt Lake's metro, but it's possible that the boundaries for the metros may change - such as adding Davis County to Salt Lake, or something along those lines. It just makes no sense to see North Salt Lake, Bountiful, etc. included as part of Ogden. Then again, major cities like Minneapolis and St. Paul, Dallas and Ft. Worth, etc. are included together. The Frontrunner could change things, but that will be for 2020.