Phoenix Area Low- and Mid-Rise Development Thread

[biggus diggus]

Maybe someone here knows the answer but hasn't billboard advertising become pretty inexpensive? I recall a kid buying a billboard recently to mock Robert Sarver, seems pretty frivolous so I assume cheap.

[TJPHXskyscraperfan]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Noticed that yesterday. Not sure if it means construction is starting or not they removed the Billboard at the corner a year ago.

Surprised because im sure that board was making them plenty of money.

I doubt they would have multiple tractors on site if construction wasn’t eminent. Fencing would be one thing but I would have to assume construction will start this month

[PHXFlyer11]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Maybe someone here knows the answer but hasn't billboard advertising become pretty inexpensive? I recall a kid buying a billboard recently to mock Robert Sarver, seems pretty frivolous so I assume cheap.

Some of these are digital now, so they can sell cheaper because they can sell the board to multiple advertisers at once and schedule specific time periods vs. all day every day and also having to pay for printing and installation.

[fawd]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Maybe someone here knows the answer but hasn't billboard advertising become pretty inexpensive? I recall a kid buying a billboard recently to mock Robert Sarver, seems pretty frivolous so I assume cheap.

All depends on the location... highway is always the most expensive obviously. But outdoor is going through a bit of a renaissance the past couple of years so pricing has held up pretty well compared to TV/Radio/Print. Couple examples:


We have one on the i10, broadway curve. $90k per year.
Have another on the San Tan 202 that's month to month. $4,000 per month.


Installation + printing is usually around $800 for the vinyl boards NOT including any extensions or 3D. If you need pricing for a specific area DM me, I'm sure I can give you an idea.

[biggus diggus]

The two of you have jogged my memory, the kid bought a piece on an electronic board so that's probably how it was affordable for him.

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Noticed that yesterday. Not sure if it means construction is starting or not they removed the Billboard at the corner a year ago.

Surprised because im sure that board was making them plenty of money.

Definitely full blown construction. Lots of equipment onsite including water trailer and full site grading is happening.

[muertecaza]

A few zoning/PUD packets for infill projects in the works:

Big apartment complex at 7th St./Oak, filling the space between Monterrey Park and 7th St., replacing everything except the restoration company on the north end:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...PZ/Z-52-20.pdf

16 townhomes at 16th St./Maryland, replacing a couple of SFHs-turned-offices:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...Z/Z-69-20n.pdf

Another Broadstone on an interesting configuration of parcels at 7th St. between Missouri/Bethany Home, replacing a 4-story office building and associated parking:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...Z/Z-65-20n.pdf

Another Alta at the 51/Camelback, replacing Bluewater Grill:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...f%20Report.pdf

[biggus diggus]

Thanks for posting those. The one on 7th Street and Montebello has a mislabeled map that took me a moment to make sense of. This is the building with the obnoxiously large address numbers across from The Yard. More density south of Bethany Home doesn't offend me.

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Thanks for posting those. The one on 7th Street and Montebello has a mislabeled map that took me a moment to make sense of. This is the building with the obnoxiously large address numbers across from The Yard. More density south of Bethany Home doesn't offend me.

Yeah--labelling Montebello as Missouri on the map threw me off as well.

[ASUSunDevil]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

Another Broadstone on an interesting configuration of parcels at 7th St. between Missouri/Bethany Home, replacing a 4-story office building and associated parking:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...Z/Z-65-20n.pdf[/url]

Another innovative design from ORB

[Obadno]

That location at 7th and Oak reminds me of MUSE

[TJPHXskyscraperfan]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

A few zoning/PUD packets for infill projects in the works:

Big apartment complex at 7th St./Oak, filling the space between Monterrey Park and 7th St., replacing everything except the restoration company on the north end:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...PZ/Z-52-20.pdf

16 townhomes at 16th St./Maryland, replacing a couple of SFHs-turned-offices:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...Z/Z-69-20n.pdf

Another Broadstone on an interesting configuration of parcels at 7th St. between Missouri/Bethany Home, replacing a 4-story office building and associated parking:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...Z/Z-65-20n.pdf

Another Alta at the 51/Camelback, replacing Bluewater Grill:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...f%20Report.pdf

Living walking distance to Total Wine might not work for me,lol.

[combusean]

That townhome project is minor, but removing SFHs, especially ones that aren't viable as residences and have become offices, is probably my favorite form of densification.

[CrestedSaguaro]

Crane for Broadstone Portland coming down this morning.

[Chestnut1]

A few items midtown:

A rezoning case was filed for the NWC of 2nd St and Catalina to cap an existing parking garage (one level above grade, one below) with a four story apartment building.

Construction has started at Windsor 7, a 24 unit townhouse development at the SWC of Windsor and 7th St.

It looks like the facade / glass is starting to go up on the Central / Camelback office building conversion

[combusean]

^ Looking forward to what they have for that 2nd St/Catalina project.

The structure there doesn't match up with the brief summary but there is a subterranean parking garage. There is a rezoning in the works on the hard corner, Z-67-20, but has no staff report written out yet.

Seems like they're going to demo the building, might preserve some of it, but otherwise get rid of a gross surface parking lot and get those government tenants somewhere else in the Central Corridor which will obviously help with local office leasing.

Good stuff I'm hoping.

[combusean]

DEA and ICE occupy this building and are looking to vacate. So yeah, it's on the chopping block.

https://www.ten-x.com/commercial/lis...12/1000013259/

[Chestnut1]

Yes, that's the zoning case. You made me work hard to figure out how to post these images, lol. Hopefully I did it right. Pretty standard fare designwise...

https://i.imgur.com/GEAX8LT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0KXuvl1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BXMjGr8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NI9kDNu.jpg

[combusean]

I'm wondering what the logic is in repositioning a building with a good parking ratio works with less parking. Maybe there's some weirdness in the zoning code that lets them use off-street parking.

How did you get this letter Chestnut? I've always struggled with how difficult these letters are to find in Phoenix.

[biggus diggus]

obviously I'm not chestnut but these letters are required to be sent to property owners when there is a zoning change or GPA.

https://www.phoenix.gov/pdd/planning...ndment-process

I have talked about this before but I have a few places in Garfield and receive GPA letters frequently. Most recently something about a big change at Alwun House and a community garden. I don't remember really, it just gets filed away. And I have a handful of places at 41st avenue and camelback, have received the same kind of letters about that place for a major U Haul zoning change on the corner there. It's SOP.