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Old Posted Sep 25, 2025, 6:09 PM
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You're right.

Langley gets a $6B Skytrain extension with less density than 33rd presently has, if there's a will to find the money, there's a way.

I just don't see Translink/the Province being that motivated while they're still locked in to the P3 operating contract. Once that's wrapped up, it'll be an easier sell as Translink will at least get all the fare revenue from the added station.
Does the P3 expire in 2035?
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2025, 6:37 PM
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Does the P3 expire in 2035?
2040 is the expiry year. Might even be on to phase 2 of the Heather Lands by then
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2025, 3:03 PM
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New zoning on Cambie and Broadway approved by city.
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Crane is up for Ashleigh at Oakridge

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2025, 11:22 PM
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New zoning on Cambie and Broadway approved by city.
'Sea change:' Vancouver city council rezones thousands of properties in Broadway and Cambie corridors
Vancouver's sweeping rezoning of more than 4,200 properties aims to shorten the development process by a year or more. 'Less site-by-site, customized rezoning. And more standardization and predictability,' said the city's chief planner, Josh White
Author of the article: By Dan Fumano
Published Oct 07, 2025
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...nds-properties-broadway-cambie-corridors
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'Sea change:' Vancouver city council rezones thousands of properties in Broadway and Cambie corridors
Vancouver's sweeping rezoning of more than 4,200 properties aims to shorten the development process by a year or more. 'Less site-by-site, customized rezoning. And more standardization and predictability,' said the city's chief planner, Josh White
Author of the article: By Dan Fumano
Published Oct 07, 2025
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...nds-properties-broadway-cambie-corridors
Ah yes thank you.
I like to leave the details to the experts like you 😉
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2025, 4:56 AM
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This proposal faced some fierce opposition. More than 70 people signed up to speak to council about the changes at a public hearing last month, and while some were in support, many were vehemently opposed.
So fierce.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 9:38 PM
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37 storey tower adjacent to the new Ashley Mar towers.
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8427-8483 Cambie Street - To rezone from RT-2 to CD-1 under the Marpole Community Plan to allow for the development of a 37-storey mixed use residential building with commercial at grade. The proposal includes 330 strata residential units and 55 social housing units. A FSR of 7.73 and building height of 117 m (384 ft.) are proposed.
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=265207165
https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/8427-8483-cambie-st


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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 9:41 PM
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Nice break from the usual tower colours.
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Their level 1 floorplan looks really good to. Will be some great TOA even without the development going ahead soon south of the transit loop
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There's still a potential development site fronting Marine Drive to the north.


https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/48704/widgets/205135/documents/158901
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Vancouver's Heather Lands developers want tower heights increased 18 storeys

The Nov. 20 public session, from 5-8 p.m., will examine an application by the MST Nations and Aquilini Development to increase the allowable height of some buildings on the 21-acre site from 28 storeys to 46 storeys. This would result in a significant increase in density, growing from 2,612 units to 4,250 units.

The maximum allowable height would rise from 304 feet to 463 feet.
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Under the plan, the buyer will own the home (under a 99-year lease), but initially finance and pay only 60 per cent of the market price for the unit using a traditional real estate transaction such as a down payment and financing through a mortgage.

The province covers the remaining 40 per cent of the market price.

The 40 per cent contribution is then repaid by the buyer to the province either when the owner sells the unit or after 25 years from the purchase date, whichever comes first.
https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/4911-5255-heather-637-657-w-37-ave-and-620-689-w-35-ave
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Yeah, only if they built the future Canada Line station at 33rd Ave.
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Yeah, only if they built the future Canada Line station at 33rd Ave.
Isn't this a prime opportunity to extract CAC for this kind of thing? Give them as much density as it requires to fund it.
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Vancouver's Heather Lands developers want tower heights increased 18 storeys

The Nov. 20 public session, from 5-8 p.m., will examine an application by the MST Nations and Aquilini Development to increase the allowable height of some buildings on the 21-acre site from 28 storeys to 46 storeys. This would result in a significant increase in density, growing from 2,612 units to 4,250 units.

The maximum allowable height would rise from 304 feet to 463 feet.
For the Heather Lands, and all tower projects in general, short 28 story towers are counterproductive. I would go even higher than 46 stories, but any increase in height and density allows the developer to lower the cost per unit, potentially lowering the cost for the consumer. It also allows more units to come to market faster.
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Isn't this a prime opportunity to extract CAC for this kind of thing? Give them as much density as it requires to fund it.
Exactly!
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2025, 12:20 AM
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For the Heather Lands, and all tower projects in general, short 28 story towers are counterproductive. I would go even higher than 46 stories, but any increase in height and density allows the developer to lower the cost per unit, potentially lowering the cost for the consumer. It also allows more units to come to market faster.
I've talked to a number of GCs that said the 30-35 floor tower is the sweet spot for efficiency and cost. After that your core needs to get quite a bit larger and then you really need to target 45+ to make things work, mostly due to needing another elevator and how that eats into a floor plate. Once you get to 45 stories, you also have to start worrying about wind, the swaying of a building and how to counteract that which can be expensive. All that to say, increased density will certainly reduce your cost of land on a buildable square footage basis, but it can be offset entirely by increase in costs and the usable floor area of a building being diminished.
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Isn't this a prime opportunity to extract CAC for this kind of thing? Give them as much density as it requires to fund it.
this better be what happens.
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this better be what happens.
Doesn't sound like that's happening. From the rezoning document

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1. A 4.4 Acre Public Park – the design and extents of this park and of the larger public
realm at the Heather Lands site remain consistent with the 2022 rezoning. We have
worked to ensure that the generous public realm and community amenities remain
as an important foundation of this livable community. The cultural and sustainability
initiatives related to this important landmark will be further developed through a joint
design development process with the City’s Parks Board.
2. $13,000,000 CAC contribution for local transit initiatives – this contribution has already
been paid to the City and we look forward to seeing these funds used in support of the
extensive on and off-site works being developed for the Heather Lands site.
3. 1-acre leased site for a CSF school – this site remains consistent with the 2022 rezoning
in that Parcel D will be leased to the Conseil Scolaire Francophone as a new 50,590
square foot facility to expand existing francophone school programs in Vancouver.
4. 125 space Indigenous-owned Childcare Centre – This amenity has been enhanced from
the 2022 rezoning by adding a proportionate buildable area to reflect the additional
density on site. The original zoning allocated 11,000 square feet of space for this
facility, and the new space will be over 15,000 square feet. In addition, the facility will
move to a for-profit model to allow a significant increase in available capacity (was 74
spaces, now 125 spaces), and to allow MST to operate this facility to the benefit of their
communities.
5. 10,000 square foot MST Cultural Centre – the original zoning proposed a 25,000 square
foot free standing cultural centre. This facility has been reduced to 10,000 square
feet through discussions with MST leadership. The need for a stand-alone facility that
would exclusively serve MST communities is an interesting concept, but ultimately
the location of this facility away from each Nation’s respective neighbourhood and
other support facilities limited the usefulness of this sort of programming. Instead,
we propose a smaller flexible space that can support a variety of activities (gathering,
celebration, performance, exercise, cultural, etc.) that can serve both MST and the
Heather Lands community.
6. Affordable Housing – this rezoning initiative intends to provide two kinds of affordable
housing:
A. Social Housing – the proposed 477,370 square feet of social housing remains
largely consistent with the 2022 rezoning. Parcel E will be fully constructed and
delivered by the development partnership and will provide 281 units of social
housing to be run by an MST non-profit housing society. Parcel A will be a
dirt site dedication to the City of Vancouver, intended to provide an additional
331 units of social housing operated by an MST housing society pending the
successful completion of a funding initiative led by the MSTA Partnership.
B. AHI Housing – this rezoning proposes an additional 2,937 units of AHI housing,
which will provide Vancouverites with an unprecedented opportunity to own an
affordable home in the heart of Vancouver.

7. DCLs – the increased density proposed through this rezoning will provide the City
with a minimum of $111,691,920 of fees through the permitting and construction of
the development parcels. This is in addition to the significant developer-built, on-andoffsite civil works as laid out in the Heather Lands servicing agreement and various
engineering submissions to the City.
8. Public Art – through this rezoning initiative , the public art budget will increase to
approximately $5.8 million to reflect the increased density on site. A Coast Salish public
art initiative has already begun and is an integral part of the cultural design expression
at the Heather Lands site.
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applicatio...620-689-w-35-ave/application-booklet.pdf
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