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Old Posted May 27, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Where did you find this, and where could I find a breakdown of the Winnipeg CMA?
Because I have a soft spot for Winnipeg, I made a chart for you Winnipeggers.
West St. Paul building boom?


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Looks like they over estimated by about 27K.
Nah, 2024 estimate. I would trust that figure more than Stats Can. The city itself is over 300,000 as of last year according to municipal estimates.
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Looks like they over estimated by about 27K.
My interpolation of StatsCan numbers has that number only 17,000 below it, not 27,000 below.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 2:55 AM
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Because I have a soft spot for Winnipeg, I made a chart for you Winnipeggers.
West St. Paul building boom?

Thank you!
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 5:40 AM
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As someone who moved to Hamilton, this always struck me as coming from older native Hamiltonians.
Which part. "The Six" or "Hamil-nn"???

Yeah, having to change the area code was seen as a 'big deal' amongst the older folk, as it was viewed as being Toronto-centric (never mind that statistically it probably made the most sense). The pubic relations around it was a huge fail... not that anyone should have expected better from the Powers that Be.

Mispronouncing a place name smacks of ignorance or arrogance.

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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 1:42 PM
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My interpolation of StatsCan numbers has that number only 17,000 below it, not 27,000 below.
StatsCan has the population at 352,093, and he showed an estimate at 379,886.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 2:58 PM
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Which part. "The Six" or "Hamil-nn"???

Yeah, having to change the area code was seen as a 'big deal' amongst the older folk, as it was viewed as being Toronto-centric (never mind that statistically it probably made the most sense). The pubic relations around it was a huge fail... not that anyone should have expected better from the Powers that Be.

Mispronouncing a place name smacks of ignorance or arrogance.
The Hamilton part. I don't view it mispronouncing so much as a very British-style shortening. aka "Birming'm", "Luffbra", "Lester". Which aligns with my impression that it's older, white/British stock people doing it.

People using "The 6" skew way younger and generally informs me I need no further interaction with them.
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The Hamilton part. I don't view it mispronouncing so much as a very British-style shortening. aka "Birming'm", "Luffbra", "Lester". Which aligns with my impression that it's older, white/British stock people doing it.

People using "The 6" skew way younger and generally informs me I need no further interaction with them.
I don't think I've ever heard "Hamilton" contracted. The "i" does tend to sound like "uh".
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 7:38 PM
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According to the latest StatCan estimates, I have calculated that at 880 875, the Quebec City CMA counted for 9,92% of Quebec's population which was at 8 874 683 by that time.

As of today, Quebec's population is now at 9 068 107. When using the same percentage (9,92%), I get 899 556 for the Quebec City CMA as of today.

Let's say we're pretty much at 900 000 now.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 8:27 PM
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I remember when I moved from Montreal to Quebec City about 13 years ago. We had just passed the 700 000 mark!
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I don't think I've ever heard "Hamilton" contracted. The "i" does tend to sound like "uh".
It does.
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People using "The 6" skew way younger and generally informs me I need no further interaction with them.


This is true for me as well, though they probably skew way WAY younger, in my case.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 10:09 PM
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StatsCan has the population at 352,093, and he showed an estimate at 379,886.
First number from 2023 mate. Second number is SREDA estimate for current year, 2024. North42's estimate is for 2024.

Apples and oranges mate.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 10:24 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard "Hamilton" contracted. The "i" does tend to sound like "uh".
I bet you have never heard the French pronounciation of it...

"À mille tonne"

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2024 State of the Region prepares for one million residents May 28, 2024
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Waterloo Region – This morning, the Region of Waterloo hosted the 2024 State of the Region at the Region of Waterloo Ken Seiling Museum.
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This year’s theme, 1 Million Ready, explores how the work to prepare Waterloo Region for one million residents by 2050 must start now. “We stand on the cusp of significant growth and change, with our community poised to become home to one million people before we know it,” said Regional Chair Karen Redman. “This journey excites me because we have the opportunity to shape the change that lies ahead.”...
Transcript of the State of the Region Address / May 28, 2024


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Old Posted May 29, 2024, 12:06 AM
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I bet you have never heard the French pronounciation of it...

"À mille tonne"

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We've had Andre Proulx refereeing CFL games for years. So yes, "À mille tonne" fans have heard it.
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Old Posted May 29, 2024, 12:26 AM
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Calgary took roughly 15 years to go from 700k to 1m and Ottawa took roughly 20 years to go from 700k to 1m, so it seems plausible to me that Kitchener would by 2050.

I'm interested in how the dynamics between Kitchener and Guelph would change in that time where they are now clearly distinct places despite Guelph being no further from Waterloo than Cambridge is. Certainly projects like 2WAD GO, improved GO Bus connections b/w Kitchener and Guelph and the prospect of a connection between Cambridge and Guelph with GO and the eternally promised upgraded Highway 7 promise more integration, but it seems hard to imagine much changing when Guelph is also being pulled so strongly in the other direction and has such as strong sense of place of its own.

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You're correct that a CMA retains its independence and doesn't get absorbed into an adjacent CMA but CMA designation can be lost. I do recall CBRM (Sydney) having CMA designation 10-15 years ago but got downgraded to a CA when its population fell below 100,000.

It was my understanding that a CA has to have 100,000+ people for 5 years in a row to be upgraded to a CMA so shouldn't CBRM have gotten its CMA designation back? CBRM has been above 100,000 for 5 straight years now. Maybe the core city population is too small?
Are you sure that CBRM was a CMA in the past? Since 2006, the rule changed from 100k in the core to 100k overall with 50k in the core population centre, which would be Sydney in the case of CBRM with a population of about 31k. It doesn't meet the core population requirement now, but it seems hard to believe it would have in the past as well, though I could be mistaken.

In any case, you can review the criteria on the Census Dictionary: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r....cfm?ID=geo009
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Old Posted May 29, 2024, 12:37 AM
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I'm interested in how the dynamics between Kitchener and Guelph would change in that time where they are now clearly distinct places despite Guelph being no further from Waterloo than Cambridge is. Certainly projects like 2WAD GO, improved GO Bus connections b/w Kitchener and Guelph and the prospect of a connection between Cambridge and Guelph with GO and the eternally promised upgraded Highway 7 promise more integration, but it seems hard to imagine much changing when Guelph is also being pulled so strongly in the other direction and has such as strong sense of place of its own.
Better transportation connections among KWC and Hamilton and London have been lagging for a long while. I think they'd be good investments.
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