Regina Construction IV

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Pretty sure the high school would go north of Arcola. Edit: The City's concept plan says it will be on Aren's Rd. south of Chuka.

Yep, I'm going to be skeptical until there are shovels in the ground. At one point it was going to be where the Temple is. At another point, they had targeted the spot where the Celebration Church is on Renfrew near the Brewed Awakening on Prince of Wales.

City's Catalyst Committee is doing half-assed public consultations Oct 17-20 (Monday to Thursday 11-1pm and 5-7pm at Mosaic Stadium) with each day for a different development. This is looking very much like they don't really want much public input bc the decisions are probably already made.

https://www.cjme.com/2022/10/07/city...lyst-projects/

[TechnicalRecession]

Originally Posted by StealthGirl

Yep, I'm going to be skeptical until there are shovels in the ground. At one point it was going to be where the Temple is. At another point, they had targeted the spot where the Celebration Church is on Renfrew near the Brewed Awakening on Prince of Wales.

City's Catalyst Committee is doing half-assed public consultations Oct 17-20 (Monday to Thursday 11-1pm and 5-7pm at Mosaic Stadium) with each day for a different development. This is looking very much like they don't really want much public input bc the decisions are probably already made.

https://www.cjme.com/2022/10/07/city...lyst-projects/

So you will be attending and providing your input then?

[gecho111]

Greens storm channel extended up to Cumberland, so development might proceed north of Arens next year.

[Newstart]

Originally Posted by gecho111

Greens storm channel extended up to Cumberland, so development might proceed north of Arens next year.

The land north of Arens is mostly phase 3 lands and they haven’t even started Phase 2 lands. Until the land owners apply to move the phasing up nothing other than the school will be build north of Arens. The works are to facilitate the final two single family phases of Eastbrook and extending the storm channel is just part and parcel. 3-5 yrs before development north of Arens

[gecho111]

Originally Posted by Newstart

The land north of Arens is mostly phase 3 lands and they haven’t even started Phase 2 lands. Until the land owners apply to move the phasing up nothing other than the school will be build north of Arens. The works are to facilitate the final two single family phases of Eastbrook and extending the storm channel is just part and parcel. 3-5 yrs before development north of Arens

Things have been really moving this year. Row houses on Chuka made it all the way to Arens this year. The Trombley Street extension added last year is well populated all the way to Arens. The Green Stone extension added this year has a foundation on every lot and over the house frames are up. All the dashed roads in this map are either already paved (but not open) or should be paved by the end of the month (there's currently a hole between Green Turtle and Buckingham so there will be a gap there for now). Arens will almost certainly get connected to Woodland Grove next year.

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by TechnicalRecession

So you will be attending and providing your input then?

A couple of those days are impossible, but I'm going to try.

[caveat.doctor]

Originally Posted by gecho111

Economies of scale I guess. Many of the old schools were small single story buildings. I imagine the new ones tend to be bigger than the sum of the schools being consolidated which provides room for growth.

Definitely seems that way - these new schools seem huge! This one is the joint one replacing my old school St Pie X I think:



There is some shared community space as well in addition to the two school spaces: you can see the "Community entrance" here in the middle, between the St Elizabeth to the left and the Wascana Plains off image to the right:

Originally Posted by gecho111

Things have been really moving this year. Row houses on Chuka made it all the way to Arens this year. The Trombley Street extension added last year is well populated all the way to Arens. The Green Stone extension added this year has a foundation on every lot and over the house frames are up. All the dashed roads in this map are either already paved (but not open) or should be paved by the end of the month (there's currently a hole between Green Turtle and Buckingham so there will be a gap there for now). Arens will almost certainly get connected to Woodland Grove next year.

Really is growing like weeds! Hard to believe when I was growing up in Woodland Grove that that open field would fill up - first Windsor Park, then everything beyond. Popped by on Thanksgiving weekend and took some photos. I don't know all the street names yet so can't label them, but I started around Chuka Dr and went as far as the construction seemed to go:



Besides more row and semi-detached housing, overall much less stucco being used than 10-20 years ago



Streets still seem excessively wide for purpose even as an arterial road. Kind of annoyingly the speed limit goes down to 30 km/h near the school even though the road width and wide building spacing nudges you that you should be driving faster





Single detached homes seem to be kept on the side streets. The lighting is lower and a more human scale, but hardly any trees anywhere, not even saplings planted







I do notice though that parking lots in the last decade or so have more attention paid to landscaping. Compare to lots like Victoria Square Mall, or strip malls like Gardiner Square, I don't think they ever had landscaping or trees within the parking lots to soften up the space, provide shade or improve drainage







There seem to be more of these large open field parks in Regina's newer subdivisions than before. Passed by another one in the area that had a covered space for picnics and events, looked to be well used.



Almost abutting the new highway bypass - didn't take long at all!

[phone]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't stand how plastic looking new suburbs look, from the vinyl siding to the vinyl fences to the lack of trees. It doesn't feel human to me.

The lack of trees is what gets me the most. In Saskatoon, the difference between Briarwood, which was developed mainly over the 90s to early 10s, and nearby Rosewood, which started development in the early 10s, could not be more stark. Despite similar low density development patterns and boxy, garage fronted architectural styles, Briarwood has developed into a much more attractive area, largely due to the systematic planting of trees throughout the area.

[cityboy]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't stand how plastic looking new suburbs look, from the vinyl siding to the vinyl fences to the lack of trees. It doesn't feel human to me.

I live in the Towns and I have one of those white fences. I hate them too! I would have gone with something else but it would have looked weird when 99% of homeowners have used it.

I get your point about the trees but the developers around here (Terra, Dream) are actually doing a good job putting in decent size trees on Chuka, Greenstone, Buckingham and along the new path on Woodland Grove etc. Horizon Station Park has a huge number of trees. I live on Keller Ave and the builder actually put in a tree on every front lawn. The problem is most people haven't taken care of them and let them die and not replanted. One problem is further South in the Greens, when trees have died, they haven't replaced them-especially on Chuka.

[Festivus]

The neighbourhoods without trees are, frankly, disgusting. It's bad for the area, residents (psychologically), as well as for the environment.

[yveseluj]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't stand how plastic looking new suburbs look, from the vinyl siding to the vinyl fences to the lack of trees. It doesn't feel human to me.

I'd rather the look of Harbour Landing or The Greens as compared to like, early/mid 00's various shades of beige stucco.

[drm310]

I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you there. On a lot of Briarwood's streets, the lots adjacent to the collector roads have a tall, solid brick wall as their fence. From the street, it is a long unbroken barricade of brick on both sides. The neighbourhood looks like a fortress, deliberately designed to keep outsiders from invading their territory. The tree density, while nice, doesn't negate the feeling of a siege mentality.

Examples: Briarvale Road, Briarwood Road

The Arbor Creek neighbourhood also repeated these solid barricade fences, albeit on a little smaller scale: Kenderdine Road

Originally Posted by phone

The lack of trees is what gets me the most. In Saskatoon, the difference between Briarwood, which was developed mainly over the 90s to early 10s, and nearby Rosewood, which started development in the early 10s, could not be more stark. Despite similar low density development patterns and boxy, garage fronted architectural styles, Briarwood has developed into a much more attractive area, largely due to the systematic planting of trees throughout the area.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

This will be nice!

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Interesting. I wonder what changed.

I think one of the problems is that people have spent so much on the house and they can't afford to landscape the yard. There are a ton of yards in new areas that have the bare minimum of landscaping. And possibly, it just no interest in yardwork. Look at all the white vinyl fences; they are marketed as maintenance free, but I know a ton of homeowners who have had to replace vinyl fences that got damaged in the wind.

[ceedub1170]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I get that argument but like, how much does landscaping cost compared to the overall cost of a house? Average house size is also much higher nowadays compared to 20+ years ago, yet people have far smaller families. It is clear that people are spending much more time inside than out. I often sit in my front yard on a nice day and barely see anyone outside on my block, including kids. It's no wonder mental illness is rising among all walks of life. I can't be the only one who thinks comfort and convenience becomes a bad thing at a certain point...

I would think it would be about $100,000 for an average yard. A deck alone is $25,000-$30,000. Not a small chunk of change.

[jigglysquishy]

Sod is like a dollar a square foot and tree saplings are typically free from the city.

You can landscape a yard yourself for like $500.

$100k gets you a pristine California style lawn on a multi acre site.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I think people's inability to do any kind of skilled labour is allowing them to be ripped off.

Well... it is skilled labour. It takes time and quite often someone to show you how to do it to learn these things. Not many people have the inclination to learn how to landscape a yard themselves from books and youtube videos, much the same way that most people never learn how to do their own teeth fillings.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I swore we already had one of these

That would be the new visitors kiosk but it isn’t a warming centre.

[phone]

Originally Posted by drm310

I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you there. On a lot of Briarwood's streets, the lots adjacent to the collector roads have a tall, solid brick wall as their fence. From the street, it is a long unbroken barricade of brick on both sides. The neighbourhood looks like a fortress, deliberately designed to keep outsiders from invading their territory. The tree density, while nice, doesn't negate the feeling of a siege mentality.

Examples: Briarvale Road, Briarwood Road

The Arbor Creek neighbourhood also repeated these solid barricade fences, albeit on a little smaller scale: Kenderdine Road

Maybe it says something about the psychological effect that trees have that I still find Briarwood more appealing and inviting than Rosewood notwithstanding the "siege mentality" built environment that you rightfully point out (though perhaps overstate).

[esquire]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Lol landscaping and filling teeth are not at all the same thing. The margin for error in landscaping is a little more forgiving than that for dentistry (as long as you have the drainage right).

Haha. I exaggerate. But the point is that there is a lot involved in landscaping. If you want it done professionally, hiring someone who knows what they're doing is the most efficient way to do that.