London Roads - Page 85

Nintentario · #**1681** Posted **Mar 2, 2025, 4:44 PM**

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One of our fine London drivers forgot how to navigate a curve in the road and took out the hydro pole.

Perhaps we could make changes to that curve to slow down drivers and reduce the risk of accident. Stupid folk aren't going away.

CanadianTalk · #**1682** Posted **Mar 20, 2025, 4:43 AM**

Bostwick Road will be widened to 4 lanes, with two new roundabouts added: one at Bradley/Pack and the other at the future Hayward Drive extension. Construction is expected to start in two years.

Here is a staff report for the detailed design contract, which will be approved by Council next month: https://pub-london.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=114655

Djeffery · #**1683** Posted **Mar 20, 2025, 10:55 AM**

I'm not necessarily against this, but why this ahead of that 2 lane piece of Southdale? Or is that not post-2030 now itself? How about the Bostwick to Wonderland link for Bradley?

jammer139 · #**1684** Posted **Mar 20, 2025, 6:50 PM**

I'm curious why they have shown a slight jog in the Pack Rd and Bradley alignment for the roundabout? You'd think the alignment even with a roundabout would be ok without shifting it a 80 meters south.

Also not shown in map is the southerly end of Bostwick. Will it be connected to Hamlyn or Wonderland Rd? It will create a rather odd intersection point.

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Originally Posted by CanadianTalk

Bostwick Road will be widened to 4 lanes, with two new roundabouts added: one at Bradley/Pack and the other at the future Hayward Drive extension. Construction is expected to start in two years.

Here is a staff report for the detailed design contract, which will be approved by Council next month: https://pub-london.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=114655

ericmacm · #**1685** Posted **Mar 20, 2025, 8:30 PM**

If I had to guess, they might have shifted the roundabout southward and changed the alignment slightly is because they could want to preserve those woodlots just north of the intersection.

Hard to say now regarding the southern portion of Bostwick since it isn’t really part of the scope of the project, my guess is that it will intersect with Hamlyn Street in alignment with one of the new subdivision roads on the south side of the street, and become a subdivision road itself.

CanadianTalk · #**1686** Posted **Apr 1, 2025, 3:26 PM**

The city has released their annual map and list of construction projects for 2025 (link below)

https://london.ca/sites/default/files/2025-04/2025%20City%20of%20London%20Infrastructure%20Map.pdf

Top 10 Projects

Clark’s Bridge Widening (Rapid Transit - Wellington over Thames River)
East London Link Phase 3; Highbury Bridge (Rapid Transit)
East London Link Phase 4; Oxford Street East (Rapid Transit)
Wellington Gateway Phases 3 & 4 (Rapid Transit - Wellington from Wilkins to Exeter)
York Street Infrastructure Renewal (Clarence to Colbourne)
London Downtown Sewer Capacity Expansion Project
Sunningdale Road and Richmond Street Intersection Improvement
Adelaide Street North Bridge Rehabilitation (between Windermere and Kipps)
Colonel Talbot Two Lane Upgrades
Bradley Avenue Road Extension

Overview of Top-10 projects: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/b1639e0c3f564b968f3331e7344cd704

These arterial roads will be rehabilitated:

River Road (Gore to west of V/M Parkway)
Gainsborough Road (west of Hyde Park Road)
White Oak Road (Hwy 402 to Hwy 401)
Commissioners Road E (east of Highbury to Chelton)
Dundas Street (west of Clarke Road)

These intersections will be getting new traffic signals:

Bryon Baseline at Lansing Avenue
Longwoods Road at Westdel Bourne
Morgan Avenue at Wharncliffe Road

These intersections will be getting new pedestrian traffic signals:

Fanshawe Park Road W at Foxwood Avenue
Adelaide Street at Victoria Street
Fanshawe Park Road W at Hyde Park Trail
Sunningdale Road E at Canvas Way
Plane Tree Drive at Richmond Street
Queens Avenue at Quebec Street
Townsend Drive at Highbury Avenue
Oxford Street W at Summit Avenue
Leathorne Street at Adelaide Street S

These roads will be getting either new or enhanced cycling infrastructure:

Ridout Street (King to Horton)
Clarke Road (connects new Wavell bike lanes to Argyle Mall)
Windermere Road (Doon Drive to Adelaide Street)
Adelaide Street (Windermere to Thames Valley Parkway)
Commissioners Road E (Meadowgate to Chelton)
plus some of the earlier "Top 10" projects are also introducing new cycling infrastructure

Plus many many more construction projects

https://london.ca/sites/default/files/2025-04/2025%20City%20of%20London%20Infrastructure%20Map.pdf

CanadianTalk · #**1687** Posted **Apr 10, 2025, 1:28 AM**

According to the Renew London map, construction on the new traffic signals at Longwoods and Westdel started this week... Very much needed.

https://maps.london.ca/renewlondon

CanadianTalk · #**1688** Posted **Apr 10, 2025, 1:32 AM**

Looks like the Kilally construction project has been delayed a year.

Stage 1 will now take place in 2026 and Stage 2 will take place in 2027.

https://getinvolved.london.ca/kilally-infrastructure-project

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The City is planning upgrades to Kilally Road from Webster Street to Clarke Road.

Construction is expected to start in 2025 and will be completed in multiple stages, see proposed timeline below.

Stage 1 (2025): Construction will take place from Sandford Street to Clarke Road.
Stage 2: (2026): Construction will take place from Webster Street to Sandford Street.
Stage 3 (2027): Construction will consist of minor cleanup work and the placing of surface asphalt.

This project includes:

Upgrades on Kilally Road between Webster Street and Sandford Street from the current 2-lane rural road with ditches and gravel shoulders, to a 2-lane urban road with concrete curbs and gutter, bike lanes and sidewalks.
Kilally Road between Webster Street and Clarke Road will be reconstructed as a rural cross-section with ditches, gravel shoulders and wider asphalt to accommodate on-street bike lanes.
New watermains, sanitary and storm sewers are also an integral part of this project which will support residential development in the northeast of London.
Sandford Street will undergo asphalt rehabilitation.

A public webinar meeting about this project will be held on November 20th.

jammer139 · #**1689** Posted **Apr 10, 2025, 12:18 PM**

We are overdue to hear a financial update on the current BRT construction projects. It's been about a year since we heard they were over $175M over budget. Wonder where the budget numbers are now?

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Originally Posted by CanadianTalk

Looks like the Kilally construction project has been delayed a year.

Stage 1 will now take place in 2026 and Stage 2 will take place in 2027.

https://getinvolved.london.ca/kilally-infrastructure-project

jammer139 · #**1690** Posted **Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 PM**

Talbot underpass feeds again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/londonontario/comments/1kavddd/talbot_st_bridge_strikes_yet_again/

Djeffery · #**1691** Posted **Apr 29, 2025, 9:45 PM**

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Talbot underpass feeds again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/londonontario/comments/1kavddd/talbot_st_bridge_strikes_yet_again/

University moving season lol

CanadianTalk · #**1692** Posted **May 24, 2025, 12:12 AM**

Gainsborough Road is getting rebuilt west of Hyde Park Road this year, and the councillor for the area (Corrine Rahman) wants to change the design of the road.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/london/article/lo...h-road-rehab-citing-congestion-concerns/

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Currently, vehicles traveling east use what appears to be two lanes of traffic, with the inside lane becoming a left-turn lane at the light. The new design calls for a single lane both east and west, while maintaining the left turn [lane] for eastbound traffic. It would also add a bike lane on each side.

“The changes could result in, you know, more congestion in the area,” said Ward 7 City Councillor Corrine Rahman, who’s not sold on the new design.

She’s calling for a redesign that would support not one, but two eastbound lanes, with vehicles in the inside lane either turning left or proceeding straight.

Unless I am reading the article wrong, this is I think a good example of why we should leave road designing to city engineers and not politicians because this seems confusing and dangerous.

If I'm understanding this correctly, it looks like Rahman is calling to convert the eastbound left turn lane on Gainsbourgh at Hyde Park into a left-turn AND straight lane... this seems dangerous because if there is a westbound car wishing to turn left from Gainsborough onto Hyde Park, they will not be able to see around a potential eastbound left-turning car in the left lane for eastbound traffic going straight in the right lane

jammer139 · #**1693** Posted **May 24, 2025, 12:52 AM**

Not more than 20 years ago it was totally rebuilt as it appears now. They should have had the vision and planning to have rebuilt it then with multiple thru lanes and left and right turn lanes for both Hyde Park and Gainsborough and we wouldn't need to be rebuilding it yet again. If I lived and worked there I would be more then pissed that I have to live thru major construction and disruption to businesses yet again because of bad planning on the part of the city.

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Gainsborough Road is getting rebuilt west of Hyde Park Road this year, and the councillor for the area (Corrine Rahman) wants to change the design of the road.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/london/article/lo...h-road-rehab-citing-congestion-concerns/

Unless I am reading the article wrong, this is I think a good example of why we should leave road designing to city engineers and not politicians because this seems confusing and dangerous.

If I'm understanding this correct, it looks like Rahman is calling to convert the eastbound left turn lane on Gainsbourgh at Hyde Park into a left-turn AND straight lane... this seems dangerous because if there is a westbound car wishing to turn left from Gainsborough onto Hyde Park, they will not be able to see around a potential eastbound left-turning car in the left lane for eastbound traffic going straight in the right lane

Djeffery · #**1694** Posted **May 24, 2025, 1:48 AM**

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If I'm understanding this correct, it looks like Rahman is calling to convert the eastbound left turn lane on Gainsbourgh at Hyde Park into a left-turn AND straight lane... this seems dangerous because if there is a westbound car wishing to turn left from Gainsborough onto Hyde Park, they will not be able to see around a potential eastbound left-turning car in the left lane for eastbound traffic going straight in the right lane

That last bit isn't the real problem because it would be the same as if there was a single straight through lane and a left turn lane. Westbound still couldn't see if there was something coming straight through, which is what many intersections are like now. The problem is if there is a westbound car making a left, and not realizing the car behind the guy making a left from the eastbound inside lane isn't making a left but going straight through. You go to make your left, westbound to southbound, and a car is making a left opposite you and all of a sudden a car pops out from behind that guy going straight through. I hate these dual use left turn lanes, its not going to really reduce congestion because there will always be somebody turning left there. Then the people behind trying to go straight will be making last second lane changes, slowing down the flow or adding to collision risk.

Could be worse though, they could do what we have too many of here in Woodstock. Left lane goes left or straight, right lane is for right turns only. More people turn left than go straight or right at the one intersection by my work (Lansdowne and Devonshire), so there we sit with an empty right turn lane and traffic backed up past the side streets with cars trying to turn left and the people going north into the subdivision are stuck behind us.

CanadianTalk · #**1695** Posted **May 24, 2025, 2:03 AM**

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That last bit isn't the real problem because it would be the same as if there was a single straight through lane and a left turn lane. Westbound still couldn't see if there was something coming straight through, which is what many intersections are like now. The problem is if there is a westbound car making a left, and not realizing the car behind the guy making a left from the eastbound inside lane isn't making a left but going straight through. You go to make your left, westbound to southbound, and a car is making a left opposite you and all of a sudden a car pops out from behind that guy going straight through. I hate these dual use left turn lanes, its not going to really reduce congestion because there will always be somebody turning left there. Then the people behind trying to go straight will be making last second lane changes, slowing down the flow or adding to collision risk.

I agree with you mostly, but the difference is that at those regular intersections (including how the intersection is currently set up)... you have the ability to maneuver your car to easily see oncoming traffic around the opposing left turning car (I think it's called the s-turn??). ... see image below

But if the intersection were to be redesigned for a shared left/straight lane, you would not be able to do that maneuver safely because, as you mentioned, the car behind the opposing left turn car might be going straight, and you would be in their way if you're stuck in the middle of the intersection...and that could cause all sorts of conflict issues... I don't know if I explained my thinking right lol.....

But all in all, I think this redesign would create a completely unnecessary risk and to your point, would not significantly improve congestion....

CanadianTalk · #**1696** Posted **May 24, 2025, 2:17 AM**

You know.... I didn't even realize until I looked at the aerial photo in my previous post that on the east side of the intersection, the buildings are almost right up to the sidewalk, which means there is no room to widen the road to add that second eastbound lane after the intersection. Therefore, you would have to convert either the westbound left turn lane or westbound right turn lane into an eastbound through lane... and wouldn't removing an existing westbound turn lane worsen congestion??

I seriously would love to know the thinking behind the councillor's proposal and how she believes it will help solve the congestion... because it looks like by all metrics it would worsen congestion and increase the risk of collisions.

Djeffery · #**1697** Posted **May 24, 2025, 3:00 AM**

She probably feels that the westbound side can have a left turn lane and a shared right turn/through lane. Because for some reason, this city likes taking away right turn lanes anyway (Exeter/Wellington is still a sore point for me lol).

jammer139 · #**1698** Posted **May 29, 2025, 6:41 PM**

Oxford and Richmond intersection is a shitshow with lane closures and construction work. Best to avoid.

jammer139 · #**1699** Posted **Jun 1, 2025, 2:47 PM**

Tokala Trail to be closed for private utility service hookups for the future block of townhouses planned on the north side.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/london/article/tokala-trail-to-be-closed-for-work-starting-monday/

jammer139 · #**1700** Posted **Jun 11, 2025, 3:18 PM**

Rectory Street to close for work starting Wed until the Fall

https://www.ctvnews.ca/london/article/rectory-street-closed-beginning-wednesday/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/section-of-rectory-street-closed-until-fall-1.7558004