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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 7:51 PM
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Agreed.
I never heard anyone pronounce this city, but how would one pronounce Coquitlam, in the Lower Mainland?

I keep skipping the q entirely, and going for a 'Coight-lam', which sounds like a strange knock off of Detroit.
You've never heard it pronounced? Seems like it's occasionally in the news, especially since it's in the name of a federal riding or two.

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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 8:13 PM
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Agreed.
I never heard anyone pronounce this city, but how would one pronounce Coquitlam, in the Lower Mainland?

I keep skipping the q entirely, and going for a 'Coight-lam', which sounds like a strange knock off of Detroit.

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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 9:07 PM
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During my time in Toronto, I was hearing Chrono more and more. I like it.
And there's The Six, which I hate. Probably because before area codes got more plentiful as available phone numbers began to be used up, the "905" region was "416" and people/businesses had to change.

Hamilton gets mispronounced sometimes. I remember when Michael Landsberg was still with TSN he would often pronounce it something like "Hamil-nn" but I've heard others do that too, and it just sounds weird.

The "ton" tends to get spoken fast so it doesn't sound like the measure of weight, but the "t" is not dropped by most people.
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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 10:47 PM
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Mawn-tree-all is painful to the ears and an instant cue to just respond with quoi?
Quebecois is painful to the ears.
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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 10:58 PM
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Quebecois is painful to the ears.
What I'd call middle age - boomer Tim Hortons hoser Canadian English might be worse

edit: Bob & Doug McKenzie accent. Aka Mike Myers doing his high school buddies from Scarborough impression.

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What I'd call middle age - boomer Tim Hortons hoser Canadian English might be worse
Why? I have that accent and pronunciation of words and am quite proud of sounding classically Canadian. It's better than sounding like boring monotone Yankees, which seems to be what many Canadians try to emulate, unfortunately.
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Is it just me or did @MikePMoffatt get the growth % wrong at the Census Division level (which then found it's way into the media, fact-check anyone?)? I think he used 2023 as the denominator when it actually should have been 2022. For example for Waterloo Region: 37162/675227=0.055036 but 37162/638065=0.058241. I believe the same holds true for Toronto, etc.. In fact you'll see a different growth percent listed for Toronto 4.0% (Census Division) 4.2% (City).

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/region-...mark-1.6897985
Region of Waterloo sees 5.5% population growth, Kitchener breaks 300,000 mark CTV News Kitchener May 23, 2024
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2023 was a big year for the Region of Waterloo. According to new numbers from Statistics Canada, the population grew by a staggering 5.5 per cent last year, jumping from 638,065 people to 675,227. The data, assembled by Canadian economist Mike Moffatt, also shows the Region of Waterloo is the fastest growing community in Ontario. The next closest is Toronto, which grew at a rate of 4 per cent, followed by a 3.7 per cent increase in Brant and Middlesex counties. ...Waterloo Region’s population might surpass 700,000 next year if it continues at a rate of 3.7 per cent or higher. However, if it keeps up the staggering pace of 5.5 per cent growth, the region could hit one million people by 2032
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The City of Kitchener surpassed the 300,000 population mark in 2023, adding just over 19,000 people from the year before. According to Moffatt, Kitchener had the biggest increase of all Ontario cities with a population over 100,000, in terms of growth, at 7 per cent.
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In terms of Ontario cities with over 100K people, K-W and SW Ontario growing quickly. Slowest growing areas tend to be 905 and N. Ontario, with the exception of Brampton. K-W likely a Conestoga effect.


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At a regional level, Waterloo region, the City of Toronto, Brantford/Brant and Middlesex-London really stand out. Hamilton, Halton Region growing much slower. York Region barely growing at all.
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Old Posted May 24, 2024, 11:36 PM
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Interesting to learn that
St. Catharines is now over 149,500, as it was stagnant-slow growing for years.


Niagara Falls is now over 105,500. The housing subdivisions are spreading like wildfire.


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If I lived in Winnipeg, I'd probably want to be within walking distance to Corydon Ave.
What's the proper way to say that street?
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 1:37 AM
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I was like Co-rye-dun? Cory-dun? Cory-don? Dun vs Don lol
When you're not from a place mispronunciation is bound to happen!

Has Corydon Ave rebounded or come back better from Covid times?
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 3:14 PM
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Population Change Atlantic Canadian Cities 2019-2023

- Halifax, NS: 55,974 (518,711-462,737), +12.1%
- Moncton, NB: 23,893 (178,971-155,078), +15.4%
- St. John's, NL: 14,218 (232,039-217,821), +6.5%
- Charlottetown, PE: 10,640 (90,648-80,008), +13.2%
- Fredericton, NB: 9,967 (119,059-109,092), +9.1%
- Saint John, NB: 7,636 (138,985-131,349), +5.8%
- CBRM (Sydney), NS: 7,402 (109,962-102,560), +7.2%

I know that things never remain constant, but, ignoring that, lets assume these growth rates remained constant for the next 25 years - what would be the populations of these metropolitan areas in 2050?

Projected Metropolitan Populations of Atlantic Canadian Cities in 2050 (all things remaining constant)

1) Halifax, NS - 896,535
2) Moncton, NB - 340,249
3) St. John's, NL - 328,010
4) Saint John, NB - 190,528
5) Fredericton, NB - 186,366
6) Charlottetown, PE - 162,468
7) CBRM (Sydney), NS - 159,926

So, Halifax at nearly 900,000 by 2050. HRM should surpass 1,000,000 souls by 2061.

Moncton will be the #2 Atlantic Canadian city by 2050.

The central Maritime corridor (Halifax/Moncton/Saint John as well as intervening communities) will likely be 1.8 - 2.0M by 2050. Will regional passenger rail along this corridor be re-established by this point???
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 8:07 PM
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I've decided to extend this project to include all CMAs (and near CMAs) in the federation.

What if the population growth in the country over the last four years were extended out to 2050? What would the populations in the country's larger cities be at that point, assuming constant individualized absolute population growth during that time?

Here is the list - CANADA 2050:

1) Toronto, ON - 9,360,037
2) Montreal, QC - 5,678,034
3) Vancouver, BC - 4,702,276
4) Calgary, AB - 2,892,204
5) Edmonton, AB - 2,406,688
6) Ottawa, ON - 2,372,650
7) Winnipeg, MB - 1,337,009
8) Kitchener, ON - 1,220,740
9) Quebec City, QC - 1,204,261
10) Hamilton, ON - 1,121,649
11) London, ON - 1,010,643

12) Halifax, NS - 896,535
13) Oshawa, ON - 803,942
14) St. Catharines, ON - 736,550
15) Windsor, ON - 697,433
16) Victoria, BC - 640,715
17) Saskatoon, SK - 544,968

18) Kelowna, BC - 424,939
19) Barrie, ON - 401,276
20) Regina, SK - 368,811
21) Sherbrooke, QC - 350,116
22) Moncton, NB - 340,249
23) St. John's, NL - 328,010
24) Abbotsford, BC - 294,737
25) Brantford, ON - 280,976
26) Kingston, ON - 269,186
27) Guelph, ON - 256,618
28) Sudbury, ON - 255,437

29) Trois Rivieres, QC - 235,415
30) Peterborough, ON - 216,575
31) Saguenay, QC - 204,556
32) Lethbridge, AB - 198,308
33) Chilliwack, BC - 192,271
34) Saint John, NB - 190,528
35) Belleville, ON - 188,929
36) Fredericton, NB - 186,336
37) Nanaimo, BC - 182,306
38) Kamloops, BC - 182,208
39) Charlottetown, PE - 162,468
40) CBRM (Sydney), NS - 159,926
41) Drummondville, QC - 149,108
42) Sarnia, ON - 147,544
43) Thunder Bay, ON - 147,363
44) Chatham, ON - 142,291
45) Red Deer, AB - 142,654
46) Granby, QC - 131,593
47) Prince George, BC - 118,547
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The current rate of population growth is not likely to be sustained, but it makes for an interesting list. KCW with more people than Quebec City and Hamilton just seems so wrong, but then I was surprised when it passed London.
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Here is mine based on apportionment.

Canadian population: 56,212,990

1. Toronto - 9,269,328
2. Montreal - 5,636,269
3. Vancouver - 4,640,814
4. Calgary - 2,849,237
5. Edmonton - 2,376,929
6. Ottawa - 2,345,554
7. Winnipeg - 1,321,850
8. Kitchener - 1,201,007
9. Quebec - 1,192,774
10. Hamilton - 1,111,752

11. London - 996,354
12. Halifax - 883,116
13. Oshawa - 791,704
14. Saint Catharines - 727,376
15. Windsor - 689,282
16. Victoria - 633,389
17. Saskatoon - 538,117
18. Kelowna - 418,615
10. Barrie - 395,496
20. Regina - 365,342

21. Sherbrooke - 346,162
22. Moncton - 334,520
23. St. Johns - 324,602
24. Abbotsford - 291,862
25. Brantford - 276,953
26. Guelph - 266,685
27. Kingston - 266,312
28. Sudbury - 249,545
29. Trois Rivieres - 233,063
30. Peterborough - 213,953

31. Saguenay - 203,238
32. Lethbridge - 196,068
33. Chilliwack - 189,851
34. Saint John - 188,697
35. Belleville - 186,551
36. Fredericton - 183,947
37. Nanaimo - 180,285
38. Kamloops - 180,187
39. Charlottetown - 159,917
40. Cape Breton - 158,151

41. Drummondville - 147,589
42. Thunder Bay - 147,242
43. Sarnia - 146,104
44. Chatham Kent - 142,144
45. Red Deer - 141,468
46. Granby - 130,256
47. North Bay - 119,360
48. Prince George - 117,773
49. Kawartha Lakes - 117,258
50. Sault Ste. Marie - 114,368

51. Norfolk - 104,888
52. Vernon - 104,237
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The current rate of population growth is not likely to be sustained, but it makes for an interesting list. KCW with more people than Quebec City and Hamilton just seems so wrong, but then I was surprised when it passed London.
It's always hard to make population predictions and even more so now as nearly all our population growth is immigration based which means it is at the whim of our politicians.

Remember that in 1951, Calgary didn't even rank in our top 10 and was smaller than Ott/Ham/Lon/Wind/WPG/Niagara and just a hair above Halifax. Compared to Vancouver, Winnipeg, and Edmonton, Calgary was little more than an after-thought in the rank of the big Western cities.
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Why think so small?

Dhaka and Lagos are what it's all about.
Bad news, only Calgary, Moncton and K-W make the top 10 when we put up Canada against the real global boom towns.

Time to step on the gas, JT! Lets juice this thing!

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Moncton's worldwide competitors are all in sub Saharan Africa or in the subcontinent. I don't know whether to be flattered or concerned.
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It's always hard to make population predictions and even more so now as nearly all our population growth is immigration based which means it is at the whim of our politicians.
Agree!!!

And I'll add that the "local" economic forces can shift quite quickly, which affects much.
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What I'd call middle age - boomer Tim Hortons hoser Canadian English might be worse

edit: Bob & Doug McKenzie accent. Aka Mike Myers doing his high school buddies from Scarborough impression.
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