ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

We need better regulations to force developers not to close off so much sidewalks.

That's a big problem for anyone who has trouble getting around. Short periods are inevitable when work is happening right at street level but these year-long stretches are unacceptable. A private developer should not be allowed to completely shut down a public resource for their own convenience.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2015...diet-get-funding-boost-from-federal-cash

Juniper Street from 14th to Ponce and Spring Street from Peachtree to 17th have gotten an injection of funding from Federal cash dispersed today.

For Spring lanes will be removed to widen sidewalks on both sides.
For Juniper one lane will become a median protected bike lane and the other will become permanent street parking with bulbouts, etc.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

That's a big problem for anyone who has trouble getting around. Short periods are inevitable when work is happening right at street level but these year-long stretches are unacceptable. A private developer should not be allowed to completely shut down a public resource for their own convenience.

I'd like to see this enforced my vigorously.

City of Atlanta Pedestrian Right of Way Access Policy

[joecool]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2015...diet-get-funding-boost-from-federal-cash

Juniper Street from 14th to Ponce and Spring Street from Peachtree to 17th have gotten an injection of funding from Federal cash dispersed today.

For Spring lanes will be removed to widen sidewalks on both sides.
For Juniper one lane will become a median protected bike lane and the other will become permanent street parking with bulbouts, etc.

Are they removing power lines? Do they not think that traffic is going to be worse. I know they want to force people out of their cars but with all of the apartment towers going up, traffic is going to be awful...

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by joecool

Are they removing power lines? Do they not think that traffic is going to be worse. I know they want to force people out of their cars but with all of the apartment towers going up, traffic is going to be awful...

This really isn't that big of a change for cars. Juniper is already parking on the two outer lanes except during rush hour. Now one of those lanes will be for bikes, and one for permanent parking. It shouldn't affect traffic much, because during the vast majority of the day Juniper is already just 2 lanes, and during rush hour people are wary of ever using the outside lanes anyway because people illegally park in them. Then cars swerve in to the middle two lanes to avoid the parked cars. If anything I'd expect this change to actually improve traffic flow on Juniper, much in the same way that removing lanes on Ponce improved traffic flow and cut the number of crashes significantly.

For Spring, my understanding is they're only removing one all-purpose lane, and it's only on the northern part for now (north of 17th street). Spring is already four lanes in one direction, with pitiful sidewalks. Removal of one lane will be a huge improvement.

Overall, these will be fantastic improvements that will greatly improve bikeability and walkability on two major N/S routes, while only minimally impacting motor vehicle flow. The good thing about the grid in Midtown is there are plenty of routes - Techwood, 75/85, Williams, Spring, West Peachtree, Peachtree, Juniper, and Piedmont all will serve the needs of northbound/southbound cars just fine.

[Chris Creech]

Originally Posted by boomtown

I deal with this all the time and we are rolling this type of space out around my company. That is the office trend - smaller personal workspace and more shared collaborative spaces. The idea is to provide a variety of types of spaces that people can work, not just at their desks, and also increase chances for interactions between people. It is difficult to get this formula right, and there must be considerations for acoustic privacy in some areas and clustering open workstation into "neighborhoods". This tends to be a solution for tech and creative groups. It is an exercise in human nature, and some people (usually older) tend to have a hard time adapting. Interesting that this type of workspace tends to be more expensive than the old-style perimeter window offices and interior cubicles - higher-end finishes, better furniture and lots more glass. Definitely more personal and intimate - I guess it depends on how much we like our co-workers!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-chalupa/redesigning-the-shared-of_b_7708690.html

Would have to completely disagree, I know this is trendy, but it's being mainly driven by companies wanting to shoe-horn in as many employees as possible. Though the build-out may be more expensive, the cost-per-ft over time is much lower. I keep reading studies where people really hate this and it's impacting production, no one can focus on work, you hear everyone's conversations, everyone's much more stressed out. I work for one of the larger creative groups in town and no one would choose this work environment. Space planners can talk a lot about "collaboration" and "team-building" but it just doesn't fly in the real world.

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by Chris Creech

Would have to completely disagree, I know this is trendy, but it's being mainly driven by companies wanting to shoe-horn in as many employees as possible. Though the build-out may be more expensive, the cost-per-ft over time is much lower. I keep reading studies where people really hate this and it's impacting production, no one can focus on work, you hear everyone's conversations, everyone's much more stressed out. I work for one of the larger creative groups in town and no one would choose this work environment. Space planners can talk a lot about "collaboration" and "team-building" but it just doesn't fly in the real world.

It's not suitable for all industries. And you're correct in assuming that some companies are looking at it as an employee/SF savings. But you're also referring to one or two stories from WIRED or some other clickbait website with headlines that read like "Google's New Offices Got it Wrong". Sometimes people take the perceptions of the negative aspects of "open office" floor plans and try to apply them to the entire work environment they're currently within before even experiencing where it has actually worked & improved other industries.

The fact that many corporate offices are just dropping down the 6 foot tall cubicles to 4 foot tall is embracing the more "open office concept". This often includes creating more social/gathering spaces along with maintaining communal private spaces shows that companies are embracing the trend. Most companies have gone without fully setting everyone up at some 40 foot long farmers table and telling people to go work. That won't work for most regardless of what industry.

[joecool]

Originally Posted by shivtim

This really isn't that big of a change for cars. Juniper is already parking on the two outer lanes except during rush hour. Now one of those lanes will be for bikes, and one for permanent parking. It shouldn't affect traffic much, because during the vast majority of the day Juniper is already just 2 lanes, and during rush hour people are wary of ever using the outside lanes anyway because people illegally park in them. Then cars swerve in to the middle two lanes to avoid the parked cars. If anything I'd expect this change to actually improve traffic flow on Juniper, much in the same way that removing lanes on Ponce improved traffic flow and cut the number of crashes significantly.

For Spring, my understanding is they're only removing one all-purpose lane, and it's only on the northern part for now (north of 17th street). Spring is already four lanes in one direction, with pitiful sidewalks. Removal of one lane will be a huge improvement.

Overall, these will be fantastic improvements that will greatly improve bikeability and walkability on two major N/S routes, while only minimally impacting motor vehicle flow. The good thing about the grid in Midtown is there are plenty of routes - Techwood, 75/85, Williams, Spring, West Peachtree, Peachtree, Juniper, and Piedmont all will serve the needs of northbound/southbound cars just fine.

I hope they at least remove the power lines and bury them. Yuck!

[Verge]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

It's not suitable for all industries. And you're correct in assuming that some companies are looking at it as an employee/SF savings. But you're also referring to one or two stories from WIRED or some other clickbait website with headlines that read like "Google's New Offices Got it Wrong". Sometimes people take the perceptions of the negative aspects of "open office" floor plans and try to apply them to the entire work environment they're currently within before even experiencing where it has actually worked & improved other industries.

The fact that many corporate offices are just dropping down the 6 foot tall cubicles to 4 foot tall is embracing the more "open office concept". This often includes creating more social/gathering spaces along with maintaining communal private spaces shows that companies are embracing the trend. Most companies have gone without fully setting everyone up at some 40 foot long farmers table and telling people to go work. That won't work for most regardless of what industry.

My office as an open benching system and it works fine-- no one hates it--

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by joecool

I hope they at least remove the power lines and bury them. Yuck!

As much of this being an opportune time to do this I'm willing to bet that won't happen just yet. Given the cost is easily 5x the cost of putting them above ground (costs vary depending on a multitude of factors) alone not including long-term maintenance concerns with limited access makes the argument for underground power more difficult to make on a street like Juniper.

There are several projects along Juniper either under construction or will be under construction in the coming 18-24 months that hopefully should go ahead and remove the overhead lines and push for other properties to have their utilities buried throughout the entire corridor.

[bigstick]

They have not topped out Atlantic House yet, have they?

[1lifealex]

Originally Posted by bigstick

They have not topped out Atlantic House yet, have they?

No not yet they're on the 27th floor now so five more floors to go plus the crown

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by 1lifealex

No not yet they're on the 27th floor now so five more floors to go plus the crown

Great, thanks for the info....

[Triptychtwo]

Looks like the next large parcel on Cheshire Bridge set to be developed.

http://www.tonetoatl.com/2015/12/alfredos-latest-victim-of-apartment.html#more

[alco89]

Originally Posted by Triptychtwo

Looks like the next large parcel on Cheshire Bridge set to be developed.

http://www.tonetoatl.com/2015/12/alfredos-latest-victim-of-apartment.html#more

Right next to a stop on the Clifton Corridor MARTA line, when it gets built sometime this century.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Verge

My office as an open benching system and it works fine-- no one hates it--

you mean like this?

[ATLonthebrain]

Three Alliance Center is finally heading skyward!! Great to watch its progress on the webcam..

[RocketSurgeon]

One Museum Place is making progress, and--amazingly--it's wood-framed. I'm sure it's decent quality construction, but something about a $3 million condo made of wood just doesn't make sense to me.

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by ATLonthebrain

Three Alliance Center is finally heading skyward!! Great to watch its progress on the webcam..

is there a link for that webcam?

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

is there a link for that webcam?

https://m.oxblue.com/open/TS/ThreeAlliance